Supreme court unlikely to delay Obama healthcare ruling

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Dawnia said:
Not being of either party, I get a kick out of the Democrats coming out and claiming the healthcare bill and mandate were really Republican bills and that it’s the Republican’s fault if it gets struck down. Do they seriously think we are that stupid? For the past 3 years the Dems have been claiming the Republicans had nothing to do with this law, that they were obstructionists when it came to getting it through and if I remember right not one Republican voted for it. Now it’s the Republicans fault that it was enacted into law? …
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To paraphrase, “Victory has a hundred fathers; defeat is someone else’s illegitimate child.”
 
_Abyssinia said:
Dick Morris: If The Court Says No, Obama Is Toast! (Video)

dickmorris.com/if-the-court-says-no-obama-is-toast-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert

AMA Study Undercuts Key rationale for ObamaCare

nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/2012/03/ama-study-undercuts-key-rationale-for-obamacare
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From the AMA link:
The law requires an “Independent Payment Advisory Board” to devise means of preventing that spending from keeping up with medical inflation. The federal Department of Health and Human Services is empowered to enforce these means by imposing so-called “quality” and “efficiency” standards on health care providers that would limit the treatment they are permitted to give to their patients so that the spending ceiling is not exceeded.
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This is nothing more than an attempt at price controls, which have proven over and over again that they don’t work and produce shortages.
 
President Obama preemptively slammed the Supreme Court as a bunch of “unelected group of people” who will have turned to “judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint” if they decide to strike down his signature legislative achievement, the healthcare reform act.
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realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/02/obama_supreme_court_striking_down_obamacare_would_be_judicial_activism.html

If Dick Morris is right, then Obama has no choice but to cling to Obamacare and go down swinging.
 
scipio337 said:
When Constructionist conservatives join a liberal ruling, they’re applauded for rising above their political leanings. When they form a majority in a conservative decision, they’ve stooped to political hackery.

Double standards abound!
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That’s bad? Whatever it takes, my friend. Conservatives, if they like, aren’t forbidden to play the same game that we do. 👍
 
Dawnia said:
It isn’t the first time that Obama has taken a dig at the Supreme Court over something he didn’t like.
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You are right, but he’s just joining in the chorus of some presidents in the last hundred years or so who have made unkind remarks about the Supremes.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
You are right, but he’s just joining in the chorus of some presidents in the last hundred years or so who have made unkind remarks about the Supremes.
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Has there ever been a president that hasn’t taken a dig at SCOTUS for an opinion they didn’t agree with?

I wouldn’t blame SCOTUS if they told him where to file his opinion.
 
In press conference, Obama says he is “confident” SCOTUS will uphold health care law.

Not surprising, would he say he is worried it will be overturned?
 
Dawnia said:
Has there ever been a president that hasn’t taken a dig at SCOTUS for an opinion they didn’t agree with?

I wouldn’t blame SCOTUS if they told him where to file his opinion.
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Hope he’s more informed than when he said this about a Supreme Court ruling:

politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0110/Justice_Alitos_You_lie_moment.html
“Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections,” Obama said. “Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that’s why I’m urging Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to right this wrong.”
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_Abyssinia said:
In press conference, Obama says he is “confident” SCOTUS will uphold health care law. Not surprising, would he say he is worried it will be overturned?
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The question that no journalists seems willing to ask him: how did a constitutional law professor not consider the constitutinality of his signature law?
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
The question that no journalists seems willing to ask him: how did a constitutional law professor not consider the constitutinality of his signature law?
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Obama is right in line with what the vast majority of constitutional law professors think (that it is obvious that the law is constitutional.) It is a phenomenon explored at these links (by Law professors):
I wish to remind everyone what this all boils down to is one justices If Justice Kennedy thinks there is sufficient limiting factors in this law, he will vote in favor of upholding the law and all will be over (there is no way the Republicans are going to get 60 votes in the Senate to defeate the law, Romney or no Romney elected in the Fall.)
 
gilliam said:
Obama is right in line with what the vast majority of constitutional law professors think (that it is obvious that the law is constitutional.) It is a phenomenon explored at these links (by Law professors):
I wish to remind everyone what this all boils down to is one justices If Justice Kennedy thinks there is sufficient limiting factors in this law, he will vote in favor of upholding the law and all will be over (there is no way the Republicans are going to get 60 votes in the Senate to defeate the law, Romney or no Romney elected in the Fall.)
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Maybe their legal clarity of vision was blighted by their support of liberalism / Barack Obama?
 
gilliam said:
Obama is right in line with what the vast majority of constitutional law professors think (that it is obvious that the law is constitutional.)

Isn’t it always amazing how the so-called constitutional expertise of constitutional law professors is immune to reality?

Yes, it’s is true: most “constitutional law professors”, including Obama, were clueless as to the potential (for now) unconstitutionality of Obamacare.

That is not a defense of Obama, that is an indictment of the law profession.
I wish to remind everyone what this all boils down to is one justices If Justice Kennedy thinks there is sufficient limiting factors in this law, he will vote in favor of upholding the law and all will be over (there is no way the Republicans are going to get 60 votes in the Senate to defeate the law, Romney or no Romney elected in the Fall.)
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Bubba_Switzler said:
In every 5-4 decision there will be one swing vote. But these esteemed law professors did not even expect it to be close.
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It may not be. We could very well see a 6-3 decision with Chief Justice Roberts writing the decision.
 
gilliam said:
It may not be. We could very well see a 6-3 decision with Chief Justice Roberts writing the decision.
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I would love it if Clarence Thomas was selected to write the opinion and Kagan was selected to write the dissent.
 
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