Survey: Religious identity slips among U.S. Catholics

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An overwhelming majority, 88%, say “how a person lives is more important than whether he or she is Catholic,” according to Catholics in America: Persistence and change in the Catholic landscape.
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The survey, a comprehensive look at the beliefs and practices of 1,442 U.S. adults identifying themselves as Catholics, also finds that 86% say “you can disagree with aspects of church teachings and still remain loyal to the church.”
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And 40% say you can be a good Catholic without believing that in Mass, the bread and wine really become the body and blood of Christ — a core doctrine of Catholicism.
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usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-24/catholic-religious-identity-survey/50891152/1?

Yikes.
 
Terrible. Lack of cacheisis, but then look at the church attendance rate among Catholics, and cohabitation and use of contraception, are these survey results really surprising?
 
One of the major reasons I was so embarrassed to be known as Catholic when my family and I became Catholic is contained so far in this thread. It seemed to me at the time that far more Catholics are the ones cohabiting, divorcing, and rejecting all that their [our] faith teaches. It’s a very sad state.
 
reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

I disagree with the Vatican on creating a global bank; does that make me a bad Catholic? I don’t think so. But it does cause me to question the Church’s judgement in not only secular matters but in religious ones because if they can be this wrong in a little thing, I worry that they are wrong on bigger issues.
 
Wow, that’s terrible. It’s as if the majority of Catholics miss the whole point (and benefit) of being Catholic.
 
Wardog said:
reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

I disagree with the Vatican on creating a global bank; does that make me a bad Catholic? I don’t think so. But it does cause me to question the Church’s judgement in not only secular matters but in religious ones because if they can be this wrong in a little thing, I worry that they are wrong on bigger issues.
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Read this:

catholicleague.org/vatican-council-calls-for-financial-reform/

catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=21986
 
I’m not any more surprised than when someone tells me the sun’s going to rise in the East tomorrow. With 75% of Catholics not even attending Mass on Sunday’s or Holy Days, and an even higher percentage of those in their “fertile years” practicing artificial birth control, why would we expect them to be concerned about being Catholic? They’ve already decided what they really are. They just don’t know it or won’t admit it.
 
Wardog said:
reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

I disagree with the Vatican on creating a global bank; does that make me a bad Catholic? I don’t think so. But it does cause me to question the Church’s judgement in not only secular matters but in religious ones because if they can be this wrong in a little thing, I worry that they are wrong on bigger issues.
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The prudence of creating a global bank is a secular question outside the competency of the Magisterium. One can disagree with ecclesial leaders on such issues while remaining 100% submissive to Church teachings.
 
Dale_M said:
usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-24/catholic-religious-identity-survey/50891152/1?

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1,442? Hummmmm…

It makes me wonder who these 1442 Catholics. We have many dissenters saying they are Catholics. So what? it doenst mean they are any example for the Church. They are just a scandal to the Church. Is it not how satan works?

of course, they are just looking for the dissenters as if they represent the Church, well they dont. How come no one asks the Traditional Catholics? because they know it is going to promote the Catholic Faith.

Satan uses this group to discredit the CC. I am not impressed and certainly do not care about this survey.
 
Aelred_Minor said:
The prudence of creating a global bank is a secular question outside the competency of the Magisterium. One can disagree with ecclesial leaders on such issues while remaining 100% submissive to Church teachings.
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I agree that this is outside the competency of the Magisterium; I also believe there are other things outside the competency of the Magisterium. Yet they continue to issue statements like this.
I agree with the Church’s teachings on truth. It is when they get into the particulars of implementing that truth the Magisterium gets into trouble.
For instance in this case; the statements on badness of the idolatry of the market is good; the recommended solution is not.
 
stewstew03 said:
The Catholic Church needs more evangelism…
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Rather than place the total blame on the laity, how about the Church do some critical self reflection on why the message is being ignored? Or survey the laity on why they are not accepting 100% of the total message.
I doubt this will happen; the religious do not take any criticism well, and any internal dissent is squashed as it is perceived as a sign of weakness that cannot be discussed with the laity.
 
No surprise. The best Catholic I know doesn’t even agree with everything the Church teaches.

Heck, I’m the most orthodox Catholic I know because I adhere to all the teachings of the Catholic Church (NOT being pompous), and I’m not even Catholic! 😦
 
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