Survey: Religious superiors support possibility of women deacons

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YourNameHere said:
I think that if anything, it would priests to better understand their congregations, if they experienced some of the same problems and temptations that married folks with children face.
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Sorry, but experience does not equate with ability to minister. I’ve seen the experience vs. education discussion in a lot of career fields and honestly, the individual character of the priest is a greater determinant in his abilities as a priest than either his experience or his education.
 
A really helpful chart would have separated out the superiors who supported it, and those who opposed it; then do a correlation, how many in each category:
A) we are growing, have many vocations
B) we are holding our own, as many new people as are leaving or dying
C) we are shrinking, but have a few vocations
D) We use poison gas and icy hostility to the magisterium to dissuade any young Catholic women, so no vocations in recent years
 
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D) We use poison gas and icy hostility to the magisterium to dissuade any young Catholic women, so no vocations in recent years
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Does that last group include the 28% of respondents from the Conference of Major Superiors of Men?
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Women can not become priests, so ordaining them to the diaconate is not an option.
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Then how was it possible before?
Hodos said:
It has already happened in the early church. The question is whether the practice will be returned
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Also, on Feb. 17, 2017, five women were ordained deaconesses in the Orthodox Church. And is it true that the Roman Church recognizes the Sacraments of the Orthodox Church?
 
Mike, sorry, but I strongly disagree. Priests are men. But as most or celibate, how can they relate to other men and the problems that those men face?
Jesus Christ was both man and God. He understood people, because of this fact.
 
We are all called to chastity, according to our state in life. A doctor doesn’t have to have cancer to know how to treat it.
 
Having a disease is not the same thing as being married and/or having a family. Come on, Mike.
 
You’re saying that experience is required for understanding; I say it isn’t. Experience is highly personal and subjective - my experience may be exactly the opposite of yours. They’re both valid experiences, but they may or may not help in dealing with someone else’s issues.
 
If you do not speak Spanish, can you understand when someone is speaking to you in Spanish?
Speaking the same language. Having the same experiences.
You cannot fully understand without having some experience.
“I know just how you feel.” No, you don’t. You have not been there, so how could you?
 
So a man who has been married and divorced several times (or even once) is in a better position to offer advice on marriage than a man who has never been married?
 
No necessarily better, but at least has a little more understand than someone who has never gone through marriage or divorce.
Jesus is the conduit between God and man.
Priests or deacons must follow in Jesus’ footsteps. Priests and deacons will never be God, but they can lead the rest of us in the right path.
 
AlNg said:
Also, on Feb. 17, 2017, five women were ordained deaconesses in the Orthodox Church. And is it true that the Roman Church recognizes the Sacraments of the Orthodox Church?
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If sacraments are attempted in the Orthodox Church, or even in the RCC, the RCC does not recognize them if they do not meet the criteria.
 
On 12 May 2016, during an audience with 900 women religious at the triennial assembly of the International Union of Superiors General (UISG), Pope Francis took questions, two of which raised the issue of women deacons: “In the church there is the office of the permanent diaconate, but it is open only to married and non-married men. What impedes the church from including women among permanent deacons, just as it happened in the early church? and, Why not construct an official commission that might study the question?”[15] He responded that the history was “obscure” and that it was not clear what role woman deacons played or that they were ordained. He added: “It would do good for the church to clarify this point… It seems useful to me to have a commission”.[16] When media reports said that Pope Francis was considering ordaining women deacons and priests, Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi contradicted those accounts and said: “The pope did not say he intends to introduce a diaconal ordination for women and even less did he speak of the priestly ordination of women.”[[17]]
 
It wasn’t possible before. Deaconesses were the wives of Deacons and their wives did not receive Holy Orders.

Their function was mainly to care for women who were sick and to prepare the bodies of women for burial.

They did not administer sacraments as their Deacon Husbands did.

Jim
 
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