Susan Rice requested to unmask names of Trump transition officials, sources say

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lynnvinc said:
It sort of amazes me that people are so focused on those out of power…sort of like kicking a dead horse…when those in power are probably up to no good at all that will bring disaster to our nation and the whole world. I know they are into destroying life on planet earth thru climate change, but as that may take 100s and 1000s of years that might not be quick enough for them :eek:
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Especially the focus on something that is a whole lot of nothing.

CNN Exclusive: Classified docs contradict Nunes surveillance claims, GOP and Dem sources say
 
Michael68 said:
Criminal activity by these people doesn’t bother you? Of course not, they aren’t Republicans and can break the law all they want. Republicans might get a kid sick, might get a kid sick Yet we know the Democrats broke the law and that just doesn’t matter. Makes your arguments fall flat.
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There is lots of criminal activity that the CJ system is dealing with. Most of it does not concern me directly. What certain Dems did may be criminal, but at this point it doesn’t concern me a lot, since they don’t have the power now to do damage. Those in power concern me, since they do have power to do a lot of harm (whether or not that harm is done within legal of allowable frameworks).
 
Apparently both Republicans and Democrats don’t think Susan Rice did anything illegal or unusual in her requests to unmask, according to the latest news on this topic.

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But I can understand why Trump wanted to divert attention away from investigations into possibly very serious wrong-doings of his campaign people, such as colluding with the Russians to interfere in the election.
 
lynnvinc said:
There is lots of criminal activity that the CJ system is dealing with. Most of it does not concern me directly. What certain Dems did may be criminal, but at this point it doesn’t concern me a lot, since they don’t have the power now to do damage. Those in power concern me, since they do have power to do a lot of harm (whether or not that harm is done within legal of allowable frameworks).
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But you want to know why Donald Trump won the election and how people can support him…look at your response. “They” (meaning the Dems) may have done criminal acts but that doesn’t concern me since they are no longer in power… There is your answer. More people were concerned while the criminal acts were being done so they voted for Donald Trump…! And no one is saying DT is perfect. He is just a CHANGE! Give him a chance, like BO was given a chance…
 
lynnvinc said:
Apparently both Republicans and Democrats don’t think Susan Rice did anything illegal or unusual in her requests to unmask, according to the latest news on this topic.

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But I can understand why Trump wanted to divert attention away from investigations into possibly very serious wrong-doings of his campaign people, such as colluding with the Russians to interfere in the election.
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Again with the unnamed sources? Rep. King is the only truth on this and is not ashamed to be named.
 
It sort of amazes me that people are so focused on those out of power…sort of like kicking a dead horse…when those in power are probably up to no good at all that will bring disaster to our nation and the whole world. I know they are into destroying life on planet earth thru climate change, but as that may take 100s and 1000s of years that might not be quick enough for them
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Climate change is a red herring.

If Barack Obama and Joe Biden have operatives on the inside dedicated to sabotaging Trump, then they are not out power.

They have illegitimate, undemocratic, unconstitutional power that is a threat to this nation.
 
lynnvinc said:
There is lots of criminal activity that the CJ system is dealing with. Most of it does not concern me directly. What certain Dems did may be criminal, but at this point it doesn’t concern me a lot, since they don’t have the power now to do damage. Those in power concern me, since they do have power to do a lot of harm (whether or not that harm is done within legal of allowable frameworks).
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But the “Obama-ites” are not out of power.

They are in thousands of politically appointed positions and bureaucracies.

Trump does not even yet has his Cabinet positions filled owing to deliberate delay by the Democrats.

The top IRS guy under Obama who was found in contempt is still in office. Koskinen.

atr.org/why-congress-should-impeach-irs-commissioner-john-koskinen

cnsnews.com/blog/michael-morris/federal-judge-threatens-irs-commissioner-doj-lawyers-contempt-court-over-lois

Valarie Jarrett has 8,000 square feet of space in Obama’s rented house in Washington.
 
lynnvinc said:
Apparently both Republicans and Democrats don’t think Susan Rice did anything illegal or unusual in her requests to unmask, according to the latest news on this topic.

See:
But I can understand why Trump wanted to divert attention away from investigations into possibly very serious wrong-doings of his campaign people, such as colluding with the Russians to interfere in the election.
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I guess they are pursuing a full-blown investigation because they all believe her.

usapoliticstoday.com/house-intel-committee-member-now-full-blown-investigation-susan-rice/
 
Monte_RCMS said:
But the “Obama-ites” are not out of power.

They are in thousands of politically appointed positions and bureaucracies.

Trump does not even yet has his Cabinet positions filled owing to deliberate delay by the Democrats.

The top IRS guy under Obama who was found in contempt is still in office. Koskinen.

atr.org/why-congress-should-impeach-irs-commissioner-john-koskinen

cnsnews.com/blog/michael-morris/federal-judge-threatens-irs-commissioner-doj-lawyers-contempt-court-over-lois

Valarie Jarrett has 8,000 square feet of space in Obama’s rented house in Washington.
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Yes, there are still Obama guys in office, just as there are still Bush guys around and probably a few Clintonites. Trump asked for an got resignations from a lot of senior folks when he came in, and can fire more of them if he wants to (but he has not).

The main reason they are behind on appointments is that the President is not sending nominations over to the hill. They control the hill, and only need 50 votes for confirmation. Democrats may well obstruct nominations when they get a chance, but right now there is nothing to obstruct. In addition, there are hundreds of appointed jobs that do not require confirmation and are still not filled. So the problem, to the extent there is one, lies directly with the White House.
 
lynnvinc said:
Just heard on the news today that Susan Rice was exonerated of the charges of wrong-doing. So now maybe we can move on to the serious issues at hand.

See nbcnews.com/politics/congress/susan-rice-did-nothing-wrong-say-both-dems-republicans-n747406
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Same story. Nothing has changed. This is the story with the unnamed sources giving their opinion. Nothing has changed. Named sources, such as Rep. King, think otherwise. Oh yes, there is still something to see here!
 
lynnvinc said:
It sort of amazes me that people are so focused on those out of power…
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I believe the thinking is that if the Obama administration did something bad, that cancels out something bad that the Trump administration did.

And vice versa.
 
Peter_J said:
I believe the thinking is that if the Obama administration did something bad, that cancels out something bad that the Trump administration did.

And vice versa.
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No, that’s not it… IT is that if something bad was done by one party then the people will VOTE for someone in the OTHER party… Which is why we are here still talking about the bad things done by the Party of the first Part… we voted so they (the Dems–this time) wouldn’t do anymore bad stuff…
 
petra22 said:
No, that’s not it… IT is that if something bad was done by one party then the people will VOTE for someone in the OTHER party… Which is why we are here still talking about the bad things done by the Party of the first Part… we voted so they (the Dems–this time) wouldn’t do anymore bad stuff…
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And yet violation of the Espionage Statutes is not dependent on motive.

foxnews.com/opinion/2017/04/10/susan-rice-is-liar-now-even-liberal-media-outlets-are-starting-to-admit-it.html
 
Monte_RCMS said:
And yet violation of the Espionage Statutes is not dependent on motive.

foxnews.com/opinion/2017/04/10/susan-rice-is-liar-now-even-liberal-media-outlets-are-starting-to-admit-it.html
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I read your link and was so glad to read some truth in NYT. Trouble is it’s so late in the game. Can they really be trusted to report truth? Many people think I’m listening only to conservative news sources but really I listen to the people speaking as much as I can and when it comes across that they stand in front of the public with smiles on their faces and lie, my “disgusted meter” goes off the charts… Doesn’t really matter which side…
 
petra22 said:
I read your link and was so glad to read some truth in NYT. Trouble is it’s so late in the game. Can they really be trusted to report truth? Many people think I’m listening only to conservative news sources but really I listen to the people speaking as much as I can and when it comes across that they stand in front of the public with smiles on their faces and lie, my “disgusted meter” goes off the charts… Doesn’t really matter which side…
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I didn’t see where they said anything about Susan Rice requesting to unmask names of Trump transition officials or if that was illegal or wrong in any way – the topic of the OP.

It’s possible on those other “lies” re Libya and Syria, etc, that Rice didn’t know and was just guessing, or had gotten the info from someone else who was lying, or misunderstood what they were saying. In any case that is all water under the bridge now, and I don’t think she’s going to be prosecuted for them.

As for her possibly unmasking Trump people names, I suppose it will eventually come out whether those persons are guilty of something and she did right to unmask the names, or they are not found guilty of anything and we will never know who they are, since the unmasked names have not been made public.

Of course, “enquiring minds” want to know. 🙂
 
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