Swedish church pushes for neutral gender reference to Jesus

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A church in a Swedish city has defended its choice of gender-neutral pronoun ‘hen’ in reference to Jesus in an advertisement. The church insists the word gives “new perspective.”

In November, the largest religious institution in the country, the Church of Sweden, advised its clergy to avoid terms like ‘Lord’ and ‘He’ in worship services in order to not highlight that God is male, in the new version of a handbook on how to conduct services. The move has triggered a backlash, with critics saying the change undermines the Christian concept of the Holy Trinity and politicizes faith.
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In a news piece about this, a more conservtive cleric said that ‘this push undermines 500 years of tradition and theology’

therein lies the root of this problem

when a church is founded upon rebellion from rightful authority and ‘current’ theology, That church will fail.
 
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Tip of the iceberg in that country. The lunatics are running the asylum there. If you think this story is crazy then look at their politicians.
 
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In November, the largest religious institution in the country, the Church of Sweden, advised its clergy to avoid terms like ‘Lord’ and ‘He’ in worship services in order to not highlight that God is male, in the new version of a handbook on how to conduct services. The move has triggered a backlash, with critics saying the change undermines the Christian concept of the Holy Trinity and politicizes faith.
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The Church of Sweden is Evangelical Lutheran.
 
Actually I find evangelicals to be very well read, as in they read a lot of books, but they all tend to be the same type of books, with the same themes…
But that’s probably true of most people, that we stick to what we like or find relatable
 
I can think of some incredibly stupid people who have won nobel prizes. Hence the username.
 
It’s just a term.
They depart from Evangelicalism because they lack respect for the Bible (e.g. ignore the parts that don’t conform to the demands of left-wing secularists), don’t care much for personal repentance (e.g. not calling sin for what it is) and undermine the cost at the Cross (relates to the failure to call sin sin).
The leadership there have departed so far from Christianity it’s hard to know what the Church of Sweden is anymore. It’s no surprise it’s in decline. Too busy preaching lines from left-wing political campaign platforms instead of the Gospel.
 
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I speak a language that has no sex-specific pronouns. The Bible reads perfectly well without them.
 
“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.’”

St. Anthony the Great
 
ATraveller said:
It’s just a term.
They depart from Evangelicalism because they lack respect for the Bible (e.g. ignore the parts that don’t conform to the demands of left-wing secularists), don’t care much for personal repentance (e.g. not calling sin for what it is) and undermine the cost at the Cross (relates to the failure to call sin sin).
The leadership there have departed so far from Christianity it’s hard to know what the Church of Sweden is anymore. It’s no surprise it’s in decline. Too busy preaching lines from left-wing political campaign platforms instead of the Gospel.
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Yes, I did not intend it to represent Evangelicalism. There are also others that use that in titles of their ecclesial communities. So I suppose I should not have capitalized it? However their name (although confessional) is Evangelisk-lutherska kyrkan i Sverige.
 
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Oh yall I am not Swedish but maybe this is being represented wrong or blown out of proportion. I mean with the translation issue + the tendency to play on the liberal reputation of Sweden + general media tendency I’m not sure if I believe this is happening in the way the article is implying/ that it is a major problem.
 
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I refuse to call anyone a “Female Chicken” 🐔 It just doesn’t seem appropriate in Church 😏
 
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ATraveller:
It’s just a term.
They depart from Evangelicalism because they lack respect for the Bible (e.g. ignore the parts that don’t conform to the demands of left-wing secularists), don’t care much for personal repentance (e.g. not calling sin for what it is) and undermine the cost at the Cross (relates to the failure to call sin sin).
The leadership there have departed so far from Christianity it’s hard to know what the Church of Sweden is anymore. It’s no surprise it’s in decline. Too busy preaching lines from left-wing political campaign platforms instead of the Gospel.
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Yes, I did not intend it to represent Evangelicalism. There are also others that use that in titles of their ecclesial communities. So I suppose I should not have capitalized it? However their name (although confessional) is Evangelisk-lutherska kyrkan i Sverige.
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The problem runs deeper than terminology. American “evangelicalism” usually refers to more conservative Protestantism, but Lutherans use the term as well, including the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which is quite liberal. But there is no central authority to say “You people are not genuine evangelicals!” or for that matter, “…not genuine Lutherans”.

Anyone can either break off from an evangelical or Lutheran group, or start their own group from scratch using those titles. There also is no copyright on the term “Catholic”, so groups can do the same thing here. But with Catholicism, there is this measurement: “this group is in union with the current pope (and the pope’s delegated local bishop); that group is not”.

This is definable. Other kinds of measurements - “this group is unscriptural” or "that group is not in conformity with the Confessions (or other traditional benchmark) are subject to interpretation. But who interprets?
 
This reminds me of the Episcopal church I attended for a while before returning to the RCC. One time, a song was sung where God was called “the Mother, the Daughter, and the Holy of Holies.” I should have walked out right then and there.
 
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