Sydney’s 2008 World Youth Day Theme Written By Rock “Idol” who has ‘No Problem’ with Gay Marriages

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childofmary1143 said:
news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20643637-2902,00.html

Will they remove him from WYD 2008 or not play his song?
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Sad, but he’s not Catholic, and everyone in Australia well knows that, because he’s incredibly active in his own Evangelical church. So they know that his views don’t represent the Catholic Church in any way.

I think if the song is fine it should still be played. If we cut out every composer or musician who was personally dodgy we’d have practically no music at all - certainly not half the music we have in church each week!
 
LilyM said:
Sad, but he’s not Catholic, and everyone in Australia well knows that, because he’s incredibly active in his own Evangelical church. So they know that his views don’t represent the Catholic Church in any way.

I think if the song is fine it should still be played. If we cut out every composer or musician who was personally dodgy we’d have practically no music at all - certainly not half the music we have in church each week!
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Shouldn’t a WYD song be written by a Catholic? Surely you have Catholic musicians there!
 
LilyM said:
Not as good as this one. He won Australian Idol a few years back, and is really good.
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No offense to this Idol winner and how “good” he is, WYD is a Catholic program and does not need to have a song by an artist that openly supports gay marriage.

Maybe the organizers of WYD should take a few notes from our faithful Arch-Bishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis, MO who took a stance against Sheryl Crow and her stance on abortion and stem cell research.

Sorry I completely disagree with this Idol winner writing the theme song.
 
Mirror_Mirror said:
No offense to this Idol winner and how “good” he is, WYD is a Catholic program and does not need to have a song by an artist that openly supports gay marriage.

Maybe the organizers of WYD should take a few notes from our faithful Arch-Bishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis, MO who took a stance against Sheryl Crow and her stance on abortion and stem cell research.

Sorry I completely disagree with this Idol winner writing the theme song.
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I agree. But then I think the same sort of thing happened last WYD, with another group who were not Catholic being showcased.
 
oooh dear…why not get the crowd all singing a Catholic hymn…I know it is a bit rad, this concept…
 
Mirror_Mirror said:
Maybe the organizers of WYD should take a few notes from our faithful Arch-Bishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis, MO who took a stance against Sheryl Crow and her stance on abortion and stem cell research.
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Perhaps you need to do a little more research. Cardinal Pell is in charge of WYDSYD08 and the Aux Bishop assisting is Bishop Anthony Fisher OP, both are very orthodox. Bishop Fisher is world authority on bioethics and led the stem cell deabtes in Australia, from the Catholic perspective.

The song won because it was the best, not becuase of the views of the songwriter.

Bishops do not need enemies when the faithful are so quick to judge.

Instead prayer for the success of WYDSYD08, Bishop Fisher asked for prayers last week, there are plenty of forces at work trying to destroy the event - temporal and spiritual.
 
M_Hains said:
Perhaps you need to do a little more research. Cardinal Pell is in charge of WYDSYD08 and the Aux Bishop assisting is Bishop Anthony Fisher OP, both are very orthodox. Bishop Fisher is world authority on bioethics and led the stem cell deabtes in Australia, from the Catholic perspective.

The song won because it was the best, not becuase of the views of the songwriter.

Bishops do not need enemies when the faithful are so quick to judge.

Instead prayer for the success of WYDSYD08, Bishop Fisher asked for prayers last week, there are plenty of forces at work trying to destroy the event - temporal and spiritual.
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Perhaps you are mising the mark on this one. It is not about that “song” that won because it was “the best” song, it is about the artist that sings the song and their stance on homosexual marriage. They have no problems with it and that is against what the Catholic Church teaches. Now someone that openly supports gay marriage should not be performing at a WYD, a Catholic event.

My comparison is to show that Sheryl Crow’s stance on stem cell (embryonic) and abortion is what cause Archbiship Burke to not support her appearance at a hospital in which he served on the board. He took a stand, as he should and stepped down.

Again, my view has nothing (nothing) to do with the Bishops that are involved in organizing this. You have misread what I was saying.
 
Ah, I heard he was performing the WYD song, which personally I was kinda ticked off about, but I didn’t know that he had actually wrote it. If he wrote the song that won the WYD songwriting competition (which was judged some time ago) then I guess we can’t really do much about him performing it…

Whatever happened to the good ol’ WYD Detroit days where a couple of guys who knew a couple of guitar chords wrote “We are One Body”? I doubt that a song written by Guy Sebs is gonna get played as much in Catholic youth groups for years to come, though I haven’t heard the song yet so I guess I’ll wait and see.

I guess it just means that all us Catholic songwriters are gonna have to work harder next WYD songwriting competition to make sure a bleedin’ Pentecostal doesn’t win it again!

I heard a couple of the songs that friends had submitted for this competition and they were pretty good… so perhaps Guy Sebs just managed to pull off something particularly awesome to manage to beat what they wrote. Let’s wait n see.
 
Child Of Mary,
I gotta be honest… a non-Catholic who happens to be in favor of homosexual “marraige” is one of the key players at WYD?

This leads me to believe that this whole thing has less to do with Catholicism, and more to do with ecumenical entertainment.
 
Caveman said:
Child Of Mary,
I gotta be honest… a non-Catholic who happens to be in favor of homosexual “marraige” is one of the key players at WYD?

This leads me to believe that this whole thing has less to do with Catholicism, and more to do with ecumenical entertainment.
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I could tell you stories about that and I can speak authoritatively on that as I have attended several WYD’s.
 
bones_IV said:
The gays rear their ugly heads again.
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what an ugly thing to say - who do you think you are?

among other things our Church says about those people with same-sex attractions is this, from the Catechism (emphasis mine):

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The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
 
The above post is a little off topic. Back on to topic,
Caveman said:
Child Of Mary,
I gotta be honest… a non-Catholic who happens to be in favor of homosexual “marraige” is one of the key players at WYD?

This leads me to believe that this whole thing has less to do with Catholicism, and more to do with ecumenical entertainment.
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He’s not a key player at WYD. The WYD song is something for all of us to sing, not just something that he sings for us. There might not even be a band performing it when we all sing it together, and if there is, he might not even be in it. He just happened to write the song that we will sing and so will have the honor of being the first to perform it when it is released, but after that, he won’t be very important as far as WYD is concerned (I think, anyway). If the song lives on after WYD (like “we are one body” from WYD Detroit) then of course all different people from around the world will be performing it and the question of who actually wrote it will be pretty much universally forgotten.

Also, there is a theme for WYD, for 2008 it is Acts 1:8, and any song entered in the competition had to be centred around that theme. So even if the artist is not exactly a good Catholic, the song itself wouldn’t have won the competition unless it fit the theme well, so we can be sure this song is just about the Holy Spirit etc. and won’t contain anything scandalous in it.

I still find it hard to believe that Guy Sebs could write a song that could beat the many other good ones I heard though… ah well, wait n see
 
We’ve still got a year before WYD08 - enough time for Guy Sebastian to go through the RCIA program and become a Catholic. I’d be happy to be his sponsor if he wanted to do it. Perhaps he already has one. Maybe I should email him…
 
Philip76 said:
We’ve still got a year before WYD08 - enough time for Guy Sebastian to go through the RCIA program and become a Catholic. I’d be happy to be his sponsor if he wanted to do it. Perhaps he already has one. Maybe I should email him…
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He lives in Adelaide doesn’t he? Reckon his sponsor would have to live in the same city.

Still, stranger things have happened 😉 :crossrc: :signofcross: :byzsoc:
 
This doesn’t make sense to me.

He’s not going to give a speech on gay marriage at the event, is he? The song isn’t about gay marriage, is it?

Why is anyone worried about this?

Since when did Catholicism have anything with refusing to associate with anyone who has a wrong opinion on anything?

The guy is wrong about gay marriage.

Anyone want to stand up and say they aren’t wrong about anything? Even the infallibility of the Pope doesn’t go so far as to say that he won’t have a wrong opinion on anything.

I’m sure I’m wrong about some things.
 
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