Syncretistic prayers with Muslims... any advice?

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How can us having the Same God, God the Father the Father of Abraham be a huge difference?:confused:
Because the Jews are not included. How could a prayer service for Israel, not include Jews? Catholics for Israel? What about Jews, Catholics and Muslims for Israel?

Let me know when the Muslims in the prayer meeting sit or kneel with Jews.
 
[So then when we call Jesus God, or Father, or Christ, or our Lord and Savior, thats changing truth?
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I’m not sure. If words need to change with Times?
 
How can us having the Same God, God the Father the Father of Abraham be a huge difference?:confused:
well lets see why do you take communion?.

I see ok to prayer with Muslins but not go to church with Prostestants (yes I know you can but not recieve communion)

OH by the way, Muslins do not like Christians and they sure don’t like Jews, they want Isarel.

But apparently they like the Catholic Church right now.🙂
 
Hello everyone,

A case has come to my attention recently of a Catholic community here in Jerusalem that prays together with Muslims.

Does anyone know of a Magisterial document that says that this is wrong so that we could take action and write to the superior of the community?

thanks in advance,

Ariel
Catholics for Israel
www.catholicsforisrael.com
catholicsforisrael.blogspot.com/
apparently most people here are fine with it. so its true, the Catholic Church is becoming Christlam, and in Jerusalem to boot.:confused:
 
well lets see why do you take communion?.

I see ok to prayer with Muslins but not go to church with Prostestants (yes I know you can but not recieve communion)

OH by the way, Muslins do not like Christians and they sure don’t like Jews, they want Isarel.

But apparently they like the Catholic Church right now.🙂
Huh?😃 I take Communion because Christ said unless you eat the Son Of Man you have no life in you. But what does Communion in the Catholic Church (which may I add I said you cannot do unless you are Catholic, have to do with praying with other faiths?:confused:

And where did I say they liked the Catholic Church, Was not the question asked if we could all pray together?
 
apparently most people here are fine with it. so its true, the Catholic Church is becoming Christlam, and in Jerusalem to boot.:confused:
Excuse me, the Catholic Church is becomming Christian. When did the Catholic Church ever deny Christ??

And where did the Catholic Church ever not follow Christ in Jerusalem? Did you forget about the Apostles, you know the ones that were considered Jews? St John, St Peter, etc.

And did you forget that Jesus was indeed the king of the Jews??:confused: He was you know, just because many Jews did not accept him does not change the truth that he was the true Messiah to come to give eternal life.
 
Hello everyone,

A case has come to my attention recently of a Catholic community here in Jerusalem that prays together with Muslims.

Does anyone know of a Magisterial document that says that this is wrong so that we could take action and write to the superior of the community?

thanks in advance,

Ariel
Catholics for Israel
www.catholicsforisrael.com
catholicsforisrael.blogspot.com/
If this is a regular event, like every week, then yes, it is not good. The Encyclical Mortalium Animos might help you in this regard.
 
[So then when we call Jesus God, or Father, or Christ, or our Lord and Savior, thats changing truth?
I’m not sure. If words need to change with Times?
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Well then you need to study scripture. Because in the O.T and the N.T they had words that were slang just like today.

My example is, does that not blow your mind. If you are gong to do it your way, then your mind is going to be blown up. Please think what you are saying, and learn about the teachings of the Early Fathers of the Church.
 
Excuse me, the Catholic Church is becomming Christian. When did the Catholic Church ever deny Christ??

Christlam.

And where did the Catholic Church ever not follow Christ in Jerusalem?

Did you forget about the Apostles, you know the ones that were considered Jews? St John, St Peter, etc.

They were all Jews.

And did you forget that Jesus was indeed the king of the Jews??:confused:

No I was wondering if you knew who he was since you think Muslins and we have the same God.

He was you know, just because many Jews did not accept him does not change the truth that he was the true Messiah to come to give eternal life.
Really!
 
I’m sure you know that the Catechism of the Catholic Church explicitly asserts that we and the Muslims have the same God.
I think it is always important to understand context and perspective.

While philosophically speaking, The Muslim God is the same one as the Christian God, this is not true from every perspective.

Simply from a Theological perspective:-

Allah is a God that wants Pagan’s murdered or enslaved. The Christian God wants us to love everyone. NOT THE SAME GOD.

Allah revealed the Koran and it therefore contains Divine Revelation. The Christian God has not made public revelation other-than what is in Scripture

I could go on and on, but I am sure you understand what I am getting at.

So I think it is important to understand WHAT perspective the CCC speaks on when it speaks about Muslims having the same God. I believe the Quote in the CCC is from the Lumen Gentium (could be wrong) which specifically speaks of how close other faiths are to the truth. In that sense, yes Muslims have it right in that they believe in a Mono-Theistic God with most of the philosophical properties we give to God. But if we try to carry this over to all perspectives, we create a lot of confusion and perhaps even incorrect conclusions.
 
If this is a regular event, like every week, then yes, it is not good. The Encyclical Mortalium Animos might help you in this regard.
Could you please quote where it says if we pray together with our separated brothers regularly that it is not good. I sure missed that part.
 
I think it is always important to understand context and perspective.

While philosophically speaking, The Muslim God is the same one as the Christian God, this is not true from every perspective.

Simply from a Theological perspective:-

Allah is a God that wants Pagan’s murdered or enslaved. The Christian God wants us to love everyone. NOT THE SAME GOD.

Allah revealed the Koran and it therefore contains Divine Revelation. The Christian God has not made public revelation other-than what is in Scripture

I could go on and on, but I am sure you understand what I am getting at.

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So I think it is important to understand WHAT perspective the CCC speaks on when it speaks about Muslims having the same God. I believe the Quote in the CCC is from the Lumen Gentium (could be wrong) which specifically speaks of how close other faiths are to the truth. In that sense, yes Muslims have it right in that they believe in a Mono-Theistic God with most of the philosophical properties we give to God. But if we try to carry this over to all perspectives, we create a lot of confusion and perhaps even incorrect conclusions.
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I think it is always important to understand context and perspective.

While philosophically speaking, The Muslim God is the same one as the Christian God, this is not true from every perspective.

Simply from a Theological perspective:-

Allah is a God that wants Pagan’s murdered or enslaved. The Christian God wants us to love everyone. NOT THE SAME GOD.

Allah revealed the Koran and it therefore contains Divine Revelation. The Christian God has not made public revelation other-than what is in Scripture

I could go on and on, but I am sure you understand what I am getting at.

So I think it is important to understand WHAT perspective the CCC speaks on when it speaks about Muslims having the same God. I believe the Quote in the CCC is from the Lumen Gentium (could be wrong) which specifically speaks of how close other faiths are to the truth. In that sense, yes Muslims have it right in that they believe in a Mono-Theistic God with most of the philosophical properties we give to God. But if we try to carry this over to all perspectives, we create a lot of confusion and perhaps even incorrect conclusions.
Huh, I was always taught that Allah was the Arabic name for the One true God. Please show your source.
 
I’m not sure. If words need to change with Times?
Well then you need to study scripture. Because in the O.T and the N.T they had words that were slang just like today.

My example is, does that not blow your mind. If you are gong to do it your way, then your mind is going to be blown up. Please think what you are saying, and learn about the teachings of the Early Fathers of the Church.

I’m presently talking to someone about this whole subject. There are more things that are contradicting eg modernism eg But I am talking about it in a more personal way to someone. Thank you for your help.
 
Could you please quote where it says if we pray together with our separated brothers regularly that it is not good. I sure missed that part.
In Mortalium Animos, there are restrictions on praying with non-Christians. Regularization of a prayer session can be argued as leading to “you are good, we are good, lets pray together and we are all good” mentality. If it is done privately between two good friends, then sure. But to do it openly in a public setting sends the wrong message.
 
Huh, I was always taught that Allah was the Arabic name for the One true God. Please show your source.
You are asking me to prove something I never disagreed with. Did you read my entire post?

On the other hand, if you are under the impression that Allah = Christian God from all perspectives, you must be pretty ignorant of what Allah teaches 😃
 
Could you please quote where it says if we pray together with our separated brothers regularly that it is not good. I sure missed that part.
You know what we love Muslins and Jesus died for them too, but we do not need to pray with them, but by all means go ahead and do it if you want.

Please read about Muslins more and what and how they feel about Christians and Jews, not all Muslins but most.

Oh I said Christlam , not Christian, two different things. Christlam is when Christians and Muslins pray together.

:)🙂
 
You are asking me to prove something I never disagreed with. Did you read my entire post?

On the other hand, if you are under the impression that Allah = Christian God from all perspectives, you must be pretty ignorant of what Allah teaches 😃
Then I guess I am pretty ignorant. Because Alah means the ONE true God. Just because they do not understand our teaching of the Trinity does not mean that we disagree that there is only ONE true God.

There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD. We do not have plural gods. There is as I said earlier ONE TRUE GOD. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, ONE In BEING with the Father.

While I agree they had a leader Muhammad who led them astray it had nothing to do with them bellieving in the ONE TRUE GOD, the GOD of Abraham.
 
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