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First, here’s a link (best I cold find) that should summarize the conflict going on in Syria at this time: bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17344858

I’ve made this thread as I am interested in seeing what people’s views are on the conflict, the “rebels”, the commonly called “dictatorship”, and the stance of other nations. The majority of media does an excellent job in hiding the truth when it wishes to - such as when talking about the Catholic Church… so, if anybody has anything sincere to share on this topic - I’d love to hear it!

Many thanks and God Bless you,
ClemtheCatholic
 
I think it’s the usual Sunni VS Shia.
Since Shia is the minority, they want to make themselves nobles.
Take note of the country supporting the rebels and the current government;

Sunni-
Free Syrian Army
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Qatar

Shia-
Syrian Armed Forces
Iran

They want to become “the nobles” and the majority revolt. Who wants to be a slave in their own country anyway. The Christians, there’s no doubt that some of them in the government’s army and do their job. Let’s hope that none of them get shooted because they don’t want to shoot the rebels. It’s a tough situation for them.
 
I’ve heard claims that a few Shia, Christians, and even Alawites are supporting the Rebels, but I imagine there numbers would be negligible. I do know that the country’s highest ranking Sunni cleric, Sheikh Hassoun was still supporting the government as of last month.
 
As I posted elsewhere, IMHO, Syria, like almost all of the other Arab countries, is a lose-lose proposition.

In all of these cases, the only real choice is between a corrupt, violent, repressive, secular-leaning dictator/monarch and a fanatical, violent, repressive, Islamic republic.

And one where the few remaining Christians will find themselves more oppressed than ever.

As they say: “First the Saturday people (the Jews), and then the Sunday people (the Christians)”. The Jews are long-gone.

Anyone expecting the “Arab Spring” to be any different is naive.
 
it still is confusing to me. are the rebels shia? so iran wants to overthrow the governement of assad? i always wonder who the people were who drew up the lines for the middle east countries and how they decided the countries were to be governed? was it after world war I that the boundaries were drawn? does anyone know the answer to that? syria is quite a large country it seems. i think saudi arabia and iran have the biggest land mass. israel is very, very small.
 
7_Sorrows said:
it still is confusing to me. are the rebels shia? so iran wants to overthrow the governement of assad? i always wonder who the people were who drew up the lines for the middle east countries and how they decided the countries were to be governed? was it after world war I that the boundaries were drawn? does anyone know the answer to that? syria is quite a large country it seems. i think saudi arabia and iran have the biggest land mass. israel is very, very small.
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As far as I know, most policy of the Syrian government benefiting the Shia, and the majority in the country is Sunni. And things happen naturally. Who wants a president who does not support you, the majority?

I’m not sure about this, but I think Sunni is the Saudi Arabia’s denomination of Islam and Shia is the Iranian’s denomination of Islam. Kinda like Byzantine Orthodox and Roman Catholic in our history, but this is the future history they gonna make.
 
7_Sorrows said:
it still is confusing to me. are the rebels shia? so iran wants to overthrow the governement of assad?
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The rebels are largely, but not exclusively, Sunni. Assad is Alawite, which is a branch of Shia. He is supported by the government of Iran.
 
Dale_M said:
The rebels are largely, but not exclusively, Sunni. Assad is Alawite, which is a branch of Shia. He is supported by the government of Iran.
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boy,i really ha it wrong! thanks for clarifying it for me. so does russia also support the Assad government? which sect of muslims are the people of egypt and libya? was saddam a sunni or a shia?
 
7_Sorrows said:
boy,i really ha it wrong! thanks for clarifying it for me. so does russia also support the Assad government? which sect of muslims are the people of egypt and libya? was saddam a sunni or a shia?
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Russia supports the Assad regime because of a number of reasons- none moral or immoral in consideration. For them, it’s pure realpolitik. They want influence in the Middle East, and their options are limited. And Russia is always looking for warm-water ports, something that they themselves lack.

Egypt and Libya are Sunni. In general, see this:

pewforum.org/Muslim/Mapping-the-Global-Muslim-Population%286%29.aspx

Saddam came from a Sunni family but wasn’t particularly religious. As a Ba’athist, it was more about Pan-Arabism and nationalism than about religion.
 
YKohen said:
Russia supports the Assad regime because of a number of reasons- none moral or immoral in consideration. For them, it’s pure realpolitik. They want influence in the Middle East, and their options are limited. And Russia is always looking for warm-water ports, something that they themselves lack.
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russia seems to have better relations with the middle eastern countries than the united states does except for maybe jordan. i wonder if the king of jordan is nervous with all that is going on in other middle eastern countries.
 
7_Sorrows said:
russia seems to have better relations with the middle eastern countries than the united states does except for maybe jordan. i wonder if the king of jordan is nervous with all that is going on in other middle eastern countries.
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The USSR used to be the Arabs’ patron state, supplying them with their most advanced military hardware, advisors, even loans for projects. Once the USSR fell, the game changed.

Now the US is the largest military supplier, but the US plays by a different set of rules- often at odds with what the local population- or their government, wants.

Jordan has always been nervous because the King’s Hashemite family wasn’t even from Jordan. They ruled Arabia until the house of Saud overthrew them. The Hashemites rule only because the Bedouin clans support him. They control the country- the military, etc., but they are a minority. The majority is Palestinian. So King Abdullah, like his father, grandfather, and great-grandfather (who was murdered by a Palestinian), are in a pretty tenuous situation.
 
YKohen said:
The USSR used to be the Arabs’ patron state, supplying them with their most advanced military hardware, advisors, even loans for projects. Once the USSR fell, the game changed.

Now the US is the largest military supplier, but the US plays by a different set of rules- often at odds with what the local population- or their government, wants.

Jordan has always been nervous because the King’s Hashemite family wasn’t even from Jordan. They ruled Arabia until the house of Saud overthrew them. The Hashemites rule only because the Bedouin clans support him. They control the country- the military, etc., but they are a minority. The majority is Palestinian. So King Abdullah, like his father, grandfather, and great-grandfather (who was murdered by a Palestinian), are in a pretty tenuous situation.
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King Abdullah has always struck me as a very educated and fair man. of course, i don’t reside in Jordan and don’t know what goes on over there.
 
Please watch this

rte.ie/news/av/2012/0810/media-3363784.html

Zionist Israel backed by UK and US are overthrowing the Syrian gov. They are 1 by 1 disabling each foe in the middle east, like Iraq, Libya and others. This will pave the way for Israel to have greater power in the region.

Most western media is pro Israel and painting a worse picture of the current government than is true.

I am against the regime change. Christians had quite a peaceful life under Bashar al-Assad. I pray for them now and for their future.

-EM
 
i was reading the Drudge Report tonight and it seems as though the rhetoric is heating up even more. it sounds as though war is imminent.
i think these next 2 months will be crucial.
those threatening Israel know that an election in America is fast approaching and perhaps are hoping that Israel will be alone in the fight with no help from America.
we would have to come to the aid of Israel i think.
 
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