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If a public high school put up an “anti-christian” poster, in this case a poster for the movie “Golden Compass”, would it be a sin to take it down and throw it away? Thanks, Tim
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Thanks for your answer, but why wouldn’t it be right to tear it down? It has no monetary value and is moraly corrupt. For the sake of knowing, it is already at the landfill. Tim
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lizaanne
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It costs money to make those posters, and it does not belong to you. That is vandalism and it is illegal.
~Liza
~Liza
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Sr_Sally
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TOP, my daughter investigated a Golden Compass poster at her school. The poster is not hers and she never planned to take it down (or cover it up) without permission. She asked to be able to hang another poster (for Bella, Prince Caspian, etc.) and we will be doing that. Maybe you can do something similar at your school.
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mommyof4
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Tim, this is my opinion only, but I would talk to the librarian/principal and explain to them why you think that advertising this movie to children is wrong. They just may not know much about the movie, and I think that they might need some information. If they don’t take the poster down, then I would suggest that you ask them to put up a Prince Caspian poster(or Passion of Christ one, as EB suggested, earlier) next to it! I don’t know if I would tear it down, though.
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Vandalism includes malice. Malice is the intent of harming others without just cause.
"Vandalism
The intentional and malicious destruction of or damage to the property of another.
The intentional destruction of property is popularly referred to as vandalism. It includes behavior such as breaking windows, slashing tires, spray painting a wall with graffiti, and destroying a computer system through the use of a computer virus. Vandalism is a malicious act and may reflect personal ill will, although the perpetrators need not know their victim to commit vandalism. The recklessness of the act imputes both intent and malice."
“mal·ice (măl’ĭs)
n.
A desire to harm others or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.
Law. The intent, without just cause or reason, to commit a wrongful act that will result in harm to another.”
I see a conflict here.
"Vandalism
The intentional and malicious destruction of or damage to the property of another.
The intentional destruction of property is popularly referred to as vandalism. It includes behavior such as breaking windows, slashing tires, spray painting a wall with graffiti, and destroying a computer system through the use of a computer virus. Vandalism is a malicious act and may reflect personal ill will, although the perpetrators need not know their victim to commit vandalism. The recklessness of the act imputes both intent and malice."
“mal·ice (măl’ĭs)
n.
A desire to harm others or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.
Law. The intent, without just cause or reason, to commit a wrongful act that will result in harm to another.”
I see a conflict here.
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TC2
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Stealing, defamation of property, ect…
I am assuming that this poster ‘offends’ you.
By this, then it is fine for a non Christian to pull down and
destroy pro Catholic or Christian advertisements, if they
are ‘offended’.
Why not ask to create your own display a/b why this
movie is not a good choice? Offer other, better options.
IMO, this is a much finer way to handle such things.
I am assuming that this poster ‘offends’ you.
By this, then it is fine for a non Christian to pull down and
destroy pro Catholic or Christian advertisements, if they
are ‘offended’.
Why not ask to create your own display a/b why this
movie is not a good choice? Offer other, better options.
IMO, this is a much finer way to handle such things.
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PaulinVA
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Tim, everything belongs to someone. Everything has a (nominal) monetary value.
If it does not belong to you, leave it alone.
The conflict you see is that you believe it is permissible to tear down the property of others and destroy it.
Noble end. Wrong means.
If it does not belong to you, leave it alone.
The conflict you see is that you believe it is permissible to tear down the property of others and destroy it.
Noble end. Wrong means.
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TOP
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For the record, my 16 y.o. son already did this and I can’t fault him because I would have done the same. But I would also take the punishment for it as well. I see a conflict still. Was there not just a feast day for a martyred Saint who tried to stop a procession for a pagan god? Was he sinning as well?
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lizaanne
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I think your son needs to go to the Principal and tell him that he removed school property. Had he torn down football posters or school activity posters because he had some sort of beef with them it would be no less destructive and illegal. Vandalism is not defined by how YOU look at it, it is defined by how the owner of the object feels about it.
Sorry - it was wrong to tear it down when he didn’t even TRY any other approach first.
~Liza
Sorry - it was wrong to tear it down when he didn’t even TRY any other approach first.
~Liza
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jmcrae
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Yes, it’s theft - but I understand the impulse.
I recently did the same thing to a sticker on someone’s locker at my workplace that had an inappropriate message. I didn’t even think about it - I just removed the sticker and threw it away.
There are certain things for which I have absolutely zero tolerance. If someone asks me whether I removed the sticker, I will say, “Yes, I did. I’m sorry - I thought you accidentally missed the garbage can - I didn’t think you’d want something like that to be stuck to your locker.”
I recently did the same thing to a sticker on someone’s locker at my workplace that had an inappropriate message. I didn’t even think about it - I just removed the sticker and threw it away.
There are certain things for which I have absolutely zero tolerance. If someone asks me whether I removed the sticker, I will say, “Yes, I did. I’m sorry - I thought you accidentally missed the garbage can - I didn’t think you’d want something like that to be stuck to your locker.”
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TOP
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If anything I will call the Principal of the school. But before he and I confess to a Principal, should it be brought up in the confessional?
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Is it mortal if I see a conflict?
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I don’t see it as “grave” Thanks, Tim
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TC2
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So by some statements here, it’s okay to steal and vandalize, if YOU don’t agree with it. Nice.
So if I have a sticker on my car for a candidate you disagree with strongly, you have the right to remove it?
No wonder Christians get labeled intolerant and crazy.
From both this forum, and several protestant forums I visit, I will say that it is good that I am firmly grounded in my faith.
If I were NOT already Christian, coming from a religious-less or pagan backgroundand, and were investigating it with genuine interest, I can say almost certainly that I would NOT choose to follow it, based on such mess as this.
We all need to think about how our actions look to others, BEFORE we act.
So if I have a sticker on my car for a candidate you disagree with strongly, you have the right to remove it?
No wonder Christians get labeled intolerant and crazy.
From both this forum, and several protestant forums I visit, I will say that it is good that I am firmly grounded in my faith.
If I were NOT already Christian, coming from a religious-less or pagan backgroundand, and were investigating it with genuine interest, I can say almost certainly that I would NOT choose to follow it, based on such mess as this.
We all need to think about how our actions look to others, BEFORE we act.
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ChangingHeart
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I think we are viewing this the wrong way. It’s not a matter of it “offends” someone, or it is “offensive” to Catholics. It’s a matter of if someone believes the message of the movie, or the book series it is based upon, they could potentially end up in Hell for all eternity.
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