Taking risks by rejecting the CC?

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I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…
rskempf said:
The Catholic Church has been with us for almost 2000 years. There is a tremendous amount of good, deep, theological, philosophical, and spiritual material to explain why it is the one church built by Jesus Christ.

Do you know what risks you are taking by rejecting it?
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I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
 
What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
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Yes, and it’s a very big risk.

Matthew 16:
18:"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.
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19:“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”
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Basicly, you could give up “the keys to Heaven”. Like I said, a very, very severe risk.
 
:rolleyes:

Personally I think joining the Church would be the bigger risk. If a person wants to join it because it speaks to them and gives them a sense of security, all the more power to them. But joining it just because you’re afraid you won’t acheive salvation otherwise…to me that’s very unsteady water.

Besides, joining the CC isn’t an automatic ticket into heaven.

If I am going to join any church it’s going to be out of love for God, not fear of hell. And I’m certainly not going to be so focused on what happens after I die that I forget what’s right in front of me. Contrary to popular belief amongst many Christians, what we do in this life does have an impact on and effect things other than where we go when we die.
 
Janet1983 said:
I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…

I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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Janet-

I don’t always agree with you, but you ask better questions than many non-Catholics who are active here, and I get the impression that you are actually interested in discerning what is true as opposed to advancing an agenda of your own.

Therefore, I’m going to recommend that you spend some time reading an article that can be found right here at Catholic Answers.

The Necessity of Being Catholic
by James Akin
chnetwork.org/journals/nesschurch/ness_7.htm

The title and premise are pretty bold…in your face a bit, but Mr. Akin is no slouch, and he makes a pretty strong case.

I look forward to discussing the questions that will arise from your reading.
 
Janet1983 said:
I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…

I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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Scripture proves that the Catholic Church ( both East and West ) is the ONE TRUE church as founded by Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. In the Catholic Church is the fulness of truth as given by Christ. To try to prove otherwise is an exercise in futility. Many have tried and have failed miserably.

By rejecting the Catholic Church, you are in effect rejecting Jesus and His teachings. Even though you may say that you do not need the church and say “I follow Him as I
wish” you are still rejecting Him. This is the great risk. Remember that Jesus said that
all who call “Lord, Lord” will not be saved.

Dissagreeing with the teachings, doctrines, etc. of the Church is no reason to reject
or leave it. You disagreement may be the result of a misunderstanding of them. Remember, all authority was given by Jesus to Simon Peter and the Apostles. This
authority did not end with their death but was passed on to the Bishops and other
clergy. Yes, there have been some black periods within the Church, but they did not
affect any of the doctrines and teachings. Jesus said that He will be with His Church
always and that “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”. That the church of today
is the same as the church of about 2000 years ago proves it. To say otherwise is to
call Jesus a Liar.

Please reconsider your decision and return to you loving Mother’s arms. God Bless.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
apromisemade said:
:rolleyes:

Personally I think joining the Church would be the bigger risk. If a person wants to join it because it speaks to them and gives them a sense of security, all the more power to them. But joining it just because you’re afraid you won’t acheive salvation otherwise…to me that’s very unsteady water.
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Agreed. If fear of hell is the prime motivation, then the Protestant doctrines of sola fide and OSAS are better remedies.
Besides, joining the CC isn’t an automatic ticket into heaven.
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Amen.
If I am going to join any church it’s going to be out of love for God, not fear of hell. And I’m certainly not going to be so focused on what happens after I die that I forget what’s right in front of me. Contrary to popular belief amongst many Christians, what we do in this life does have an impact on and effect things other than where we go when we die.
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An amazing admission…and very Catholic! 👍
 
Javl said:
Scripture proves that the Catholic Church ( both East and West ) is the ONE TRUE church as founded by Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Shalom Aleichem
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So the Orthodox aren’t schismatic anymore, huh. I guess Leo XIII was way out of line when he wrote to them asking them to return to the Catholic Church. :rolleyes:
 
VARC said:
So the Orthodox aren’t schismatic anymore, huh. I guess Leo XIII was way out of line when he wrote to them asking them to return to the Catholic Church. :rolleyes:
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My error was in not stating that it is the Eastern churches that are in communion with Rome. The Orthodox are still schismatic. They are like two sons who are givien orders by their father. The older son is put in authority, the younger refuses to take orders from his older brother, but still does what his father wants. So it is with the Orthodox.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
Janet1983 said:
What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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As I understand it Catholics consider it a mortal sin to leave the Catholic Church. It would seem as if the belief is that it doesn’t matter if one leaves for Islam, Jehovah Witness, LDS,Satanism, Hindu or mainline Protestant you are still in that state of mortal sin. Other Christians are accepted as it is believed that it would be easier to get them to join a Catholic fellowship then say a Scientologist.

Is that what is believed? When does one become Catholic so to choose another makes him a mortal sinner in the Church’s eye? When his parents have him Baptised? If he goes through first communion? Confirmation? When she just studied the Catholic Church but did not join as she rejected some of her teachings?
 
Janet1983 said:
I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…

I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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Examine your motives.
If your motives are a deeper relationship with God and you are led outside of Catholicism then you will endure the ridicule of man but have your relationship with God.
If you motives are about not wanting to undergo a period of sanctification that He puts all believers through and escape to an easier, softer way then your risk is trying to run from God and what He is doing.
 
To join the Roman Catholic Church is a big decision. Happily, it is not something that you need face on your own. We are not like the denominations where there is an altar call. We require that you understand what you are getting into before you make any commitment to join. Anyone out there considering the Catholic Church should contact the local parish and inquire about their RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults). It provides a year where you can learn and experience the Church first hand. The best thing about the Catholic Church is that once you examine the truth under the brightest light possible you will find Jesus, Truth and Peace. The catecism states this about our Protestant brothers and sisters:
“One cannot charge with the sin of separation those who are born into these communities that result from such separation and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers… All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.” (CCC Paragraph 818)
 
Janet1983 said:
I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…

I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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Hi Janet. I think it might help me to better understand what you’re asking if I first turn the question around to you: Do you believe that we Catholics are taking risks by not being Protestant? And what sort of risks?
 
Peter_J said:
Hi Janet. I think it might help me to better understand what you’re asking if I first turn the question around to you: Do you believe that we Catholics are taking risks by not being Protestant? And what sort of risks?
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Well I found this question in a different thread… Someone asked a new convert from the CC whether she / he would know about the risks…
That is where the question sprung up… what risks?
 
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Janet

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?(End quote)

Hi janet, It depends on how young and immature you are. if you persevere in the Christian life through thick and thin in your early adult life , use the grace of the Sacraments given to us, the gifts of God) all throughout our maturing years persevere in his love and grace to the end, you have lived the full truth of Jesus Christ, how could you possibly reject it.👍 Carlan
 
apromisemade said:
:rolleyes:

Personally I think joining the Church would be the bigger risk. If a person wants to join it because it speaks to them and gives them a sense of security, all the more power to them. But joining it just because you’re afraid you won’t acheive salvation otherwise…to me that’s very unsteady water.

Besides, joining the CC isn’t an automatic ticket into heaven.

If I am going to join any church it’s going to be out of love for God, not fear of hell. And I’m certainly not going to be so focused on what happens after I die that I forget what’s right in front of me. Contrary to popular belief amongst many Christians, what we do in this life does have an impact on and effect things other than where we go when we die.
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are you saying that loving God in the CC is impossible?
 
Janet1983 said:
I admit it… sometimes curiosity gets the best of me and I go off-topic… Same just happened in a thread and I so would like to hear a couple of opinions from Catholics and Non-Catholics on this one…
I really couldn’t help it…

I know this is a little bit touchy, but I’d just like to know what you think in a healthy debate…
The thread this was taken from was not mine so I decided to keep that one on its topic and ask this question in a new thread…

What kind of risks should there be involved in converting away from Catholicism? Are there any? (You know I highly doubt that, but what do you think?)
Are the risks higher for someone who did live a Catholic life for a long time?

What do you think?
What do you think the opinion of the CC is about that? Where could I find that exactly if they do have any opinion on the subject?

In Him,
Janet
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well Jesus said: “whoever hears you hears me and the One who sent me, whoever rejects you, rejects me and the One who sent me.” this is what Jesus said to His Church. the One found 2000 years ago. dont think because you got the Bible you can claim the promise that was made 2000 years ago to the One Church, the CC. so there is a danger here.
 
wisdomseeker said:
are you saying that loving God in the CC is impossible?
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Certainly not.

The OP asked if there are risks in not accepting Catholicism. My point was that if one is going to join a church, Catholic or otherwise, it ought to be out of love for God and not just to “play it safe” and “not take a risk” regarding their salvation.
 
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