Talking to a woman after mass

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Does your parish have pancake Sundays or at least donut Sundays? If so, you can always ask her if she is going after Mass and say, “I’m buying”. Better yet, don’t mention buying, stand next to her and say, “I got this.” If your parish only has donut Sundays, donate for the both of you. The point is, take advantage of what the parish offers as a way to sit and talk further.

I would ask her to go to a movie, rather than coffee. It sounds like more fun and you can also add in a bite to eat or an ice cream. Ask her what she likes to do after Mass. You can probably get an idea if she would like to get to know you better. Or just ask her if she would like to go to a movie after Mass next Sunday. Or, just ask her if she would like to go for breakfast or lunch right as you are talking. That is the way many people make friends in their parish anyway, breakfast or lunch after Mass.

She might have family obligations on some Sundays, so be patient.

By the way, you sound like the kind of guy I was hoping to find when I was 25. I really, really wanted a nice guy who had not “been around”. You are sure to meet someone who appreciates that in you.
Yeah, the cathedral has coffee and rolls after every early mass…8AM and 10AM. She’s never gone since I met her (that I know, anyway). I usually don’t go…but I would love a reason to.

Haha, I talked to a girl who said that same thing…my best friend’s girlfriend. (go figure)
 
Another idea is to invite her to an event that a good orthodox Catholic woman would be interested in attending…

Like a 40 Days for Life gathering, or a Catholic movie screening, or a talk at a parish, a Rosary, or unloading a St. Vincent de Paul food truck. You would find out more about her around other people rather than coffee or a movie. Try try try to develop a friendship before moving into a dating relationship. Most larger cities have a lot for Catholics to do besides Mass. There is no need to rush, suggesting a well-attended event sends her the right message, that you are interested, but slows down the romance just a bit while you grow the friendship. As singles, my now-husband and I worked on a pro-life fundraiser together, and it was a perfect way for me to find out what a selfless, Christ-centered man he really is.
 
Another idea is to invite her to an event that a good orthodox Catholic woman would be interested in attending…

Like a 40 Days for Life gathering, or a Catholic movie screening, or a talk at a parish, a Rosary, or unloading a St. Vincent de Paul food truck. You would find out more about her around other people rather than coffee or a movie. Try try try to develop a friendship before moving into a dating relationship. Most larger cities have a lot for Catholics to do besides Mass. There is no need to rush, suggesting a well-attended event sends her the right message, that you are interested, but slows down the romance just a bit while you grow the friendship. As singles, my now-husband and I worked on a pro-life fundraiser together, and it was a perfect way for me to find out what a selfless, Christ-centered man he really is.
The idea of group activities as a first step is a good one, but would be more easily achieved if one or other of them has an existing circle in which to partake. I would be inclined to seek out “light” activities where, at this early state, the 2 people can be at ease and not be asked to expose to much of their “personal” serves. But ultimately, the OP should be best placed to choose what suits the 2 people best.
 
Despite the tone of my first post, I view this exclusively as a learning experience. Marriage is the end-game if and only if everything else that happens before works out in accord with God’s plans for both of us. So it’s more a discerning exercise, really. And a necessary growing-up moment for me.

It’s just a highly valuable one in my eyes since I don’t meet very many Catholic women my own age who are single and interested in me.
You contradict yourself a little. In reality, you’re open to marriage in the long run, on certain conditions etc., so it’s not just an exercise to you. Also, you regard that young woman highly, another one against ‘just an exercise’. Aren’t you afraid of committing or admitting that you’re inclined to commit?

As for the girl, don’t presume she’s interested in you (or even single, actually). Plus, if you meet a girl who’s interested in you, then even if you don’t actually become responsible for her because of that (and I’d say a man has some responsibility there), you still can’t just use her.

This is in the long run. I realise you’re just asking her out at this stage. Speaking of which, do it the way that feels right to you, especially considering your conscience and the need to stay true to yourself. Don’t pretend to be someone you are not, including more relaxed, light-hearted or confident than you really are. Just don’t allow emotions and anxieties to make you do stupid things or act in a way that’s not natural to you, e.g. by using too big words, going on winded melancholy tirades, sulking, or complimenting or otherwise squiring her more than she can take, anything else an anxious, unconfident man does. Just try to be yourself.
 
From what I remember of the OP, he is only 23. Even though he does have a mind for marriage, it is reasonable to think of approaching a girl he admires to talk more and possibly asking her out as an exercise. I see those two thoughts as going hand and hand and working well at that age.

I think, for anyone, it is okay to not be totally yourself if it helps you to be able to do something you find to be of a challenge. It makes it a bit easier to “play a part” when you are in a situation that is new or unusual. Etiquitte rules for conversation help a bit too. Nothing wrong with accidently stumbling a bit when talking to the opposite sex, though, since that can be endearing and might even make the other person feel more at ease.

Dating is not using another person. Even if you get into a relationship that doesn’t work out, it is healthy to not feel used or feel super responsible for someone else’s feelings. It is very easy sometimes to feel used or responsible for hurt feelings, but good to know you will get over it. Been there, done that. I wasted a lot of emotion and time feeling used and blaming the person I thought was responsible. He was not the best choice for me and that was what was wrong, not facing my choices.
 
I’d be elated if a Catholic guy asked me out after a mass. Unfortunately, that has never occurred. I actually have never dated an active Catholic, and gave up trying to get a Catholic guy. Secular guys ask me out all the time, and I have dated many of them as a result.

Hope this helps.
 
Are you attending any other activities that have a significant percentage of eligible, Catholic males near your age?
 
You contradict yourself a little. In reality, you’re open to marriage in the long run, on certain conditions etc., so it’s not just an exercise to you. Also, you regard that young woman highly, another one against ‘just an exercise’. Aren’t you afraid of committing or admitting that you’re inclined to commit?

As for the girl, don’t presume she’s interested in you (or even single, actually). Plus, if you meet a girl who’s interested in you, then even if you don’t actually become responsible for her because of that (and I’d say a man has some responsibility there), you still can’t just use her.

This is in the long run. I realise you’re just asking her out at this stage. Speaking of which, do it the way that feels right to you, especially considering your conscience and the need to stay true to yourself. Don’t pretend to be someone you are not, including more relaxed, light-hearted or confident than you really are. Just don’t allow emotions and anxieties to make you do stupid things or act in a way that’s not natural to you, e.g. by using too big words, going on winded melancholy tirades, sulking, or complimenting or otherwise squiring her more than she can take, anything else an anxious, unconfident man does. Just try to be yourself.
I’d say I’m much more inclined than afraid, personally. I guess I just consider it an ‘exercise’ since most don’t marry the first person they’ve dated. I absolutely balk at the idea of using her. How so? It’s a learning experience. I’m not asking her out because I want to learn about myself…I want to learn about her. Is that “using” her? I’m confused…
 
A little update. I saw her after mass again, except this time, I went up to her, paid her a sincere compliment, and asked if she’d join me after Mass in the church basement for coffee and rolls. She said yes! (To my delight) We sat at a table by ourselves and talked for a good 30-40 minutes. Found out where she worked, what other stuff she does. I thought it went very well. And when we left, I asked if I’d see her at the same Mass next Sunday…and she smiled and said yes. I like where this is going. 🙂
 
I dunno. Nervous people do find spouses. They really do. So I wouldn’t worry about being nervous – your nervousness is a sign to her that you care.
My husband was so nervous about messing it up that he hardly spoke ten sentences the first date he asked me on and that date was more or less a group he got together specifically so he could invite me out! I thought his being quiet was a lack of interest, but he was very interested and simply very scared to make a mistake.

After we’d been dating for a bit he asked a friend, who happened to be male and close to me since we were in school, what he could do to win me. My friend told him to make me laugh. Best advice ever! My DH lightened up, warmed up, and spent a lot of time making me laugh. We’ve been together almost 14 years and married for almost 10 years now.

OP, take a chance! Ask her out for coffee together or get up a group of friends and take her out to do something with them. Talk to her. Make her laugh. Be yourself and get to know her. See where it goes.
 
My husband was so nervous about messing it up that he hardly spoke ten sentences the first date he asked me on and that date was more or less a group he got together specifically so he could invite me out! I thought his being quiet was a lack of interest, but he was very interested and simply very scared to make a mistake.

After we’d been dating for a bit he asked a friend, who happened to be male and close to me since we were in school, what he could do to win me. My friend told him to make me laugh. Best advice ever! My DH lightened up, warmed up, and spent a lot of time making me laugh. We’ve been together almost 14 years and married for almost 10 years now.

OP, take a chance! Ask her out for coffee together or get up a group of friends and take her out to do something with them. Talk to her. Make her laugh. Be yourself and get to know her. See where it goes.
I did…see my prior post.
 
A little update. I saw her after mass again, except this time, I went up to her, paid her a sincere compliment, and asked if she’d join me after Mass in the church basement for coffee and rolls. She said yes! (To my delight) We sat at a table by ourselves and talked for a good 30-40 minutes. Found out where she worked, what other stuff she does. I thought it went very well. And when we left, I asked if I’d see her at the same Mass next Sunday…and she smiled and said yes. I like where this is going. 🙂
Congratulations! Good man! See, you can do it.
 
A little update. I saw her after mass again, except this time, I went up to her, paid her a sincere compliment, and asked if she’d join me after Mass in the church basement for coffee and rolls. She said yes! (To my delight) We sat at a table by ourselves and talked for a good 30-40 minutes. Found out where she worked, what other stuff she does. I thought it went very well. And when we left, I asked if I’d see her at the same Mass next Sunday…and she smiled and said yes. I like where this is going. 🙂
Nice work! See coffee always does the trick! 😃

Good luck and may God Bless you both.

PS - please continue to keep us updated. I’m sure we would all love to know if this becomes serious. 👍
 
I did…see my prior post.
Yup, saw it after I posted. Still good advice :).

Got a next move planned for a date that doesn’t include Mass? You don’t want her to think you’re just a friendly person from the parish she chatted with for a bit. You want her to be aware that your interest is dating her.
 
A little update. I saw her after mass again, except this time, I went up to her, paid her a sincere compliment, and asked if she’d join me after Mass in the church basement for coffee and rolls. She said yes! (To my delight) We sat at a table by ourselves and talked for a good 30-40 minutes. Found out where she worked, what other stuff she does. I thought it went very well. And when we left, I asked if I’d see her at the same Mass next Sunday…and she smiled and said yes. I like where this is going. 🙂
Cool! It was really nice of her to give you that time. She sounds sweet.
 
I’d say I’m much more inclined than afraid, personally. I guess I just consider it an ‘exercise’ since most don’t marry the first person they’ve dated. I absolutely balk at the idea of using her. How so? It’s a learning experience. I’m not asking her out because I want to learn about myself…I want to learn about her. Is that “using” her? I’m confused…
No, it’s not using her if you learn about her for some purpose that might as well be good to her or become her own or in any case doesn’t harm her.

But when one mentions learning exercise, it typically sounds like enhancing one’s own experience.
 
Yup, saw it after I posted. Still good advice :).

Got a next move planned for a date that doesn’t include Mass? You don’t want her to think you’re just a friendly person from the parish she chatted with for a bit. You want her to be aware that your interest is dating her.
Yeah, I was thinking that after this Sunday’s mass, asking her if she wants to get a coffee somewhere else outside of the church and maybe go for a nice walk, if weather permits. Otherwise, suggestions are appreciated. I mean later in the week, like Wednesday or so, not right after mass.
 
Yeah, I was thinking that after this Sunday’s mass, asking her if she wants to get a coffee somewhere else outside of the church and maybe go for a nice walk, if weather permits. Otherwise, suggestions are appreciated. I mean later in the week, like Wednesday or so, not right after mass.
Did you get any idea of her hobbies and interests while you were chatting with her? Any chance of finding a local event to attend that would be up her alley? Check social websites and the local paper entertainment section. Ours posts local events every week near the weekend so that people can make plans to attend.

There’s always the old stand-by of dinner and a movie. Find out what kind of food she likes, take her to a movie and then an appropriate restaurant that has her kind of food, a nice atmosphere conducive to chit-chat, and if you find yourself lacking conversation you can always discuss the movie you just saw or other movies you liked/disliked and why.

Oooh, and if she has a good sense of humor you could look into going to a comedy club and have dinner before or after.
 
Ask her out so soon? Seems quick, and I don’t really know much of her interests. She mentioned history briefly. That was about it, otherwise we just talked about everyday stuff.
 
Cool! It was really nice of her to give you that time. She sounds sweet.
Her response was the best possible reaction I could have asked for. It’s hard to put into words, but she’s just…elegant. Personality-wise, how she dresses, her speech patterns, etc. She’s a gem.
 
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