Tancredo says Obama bigger threat than al-Qaida

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I wonder what the reaction would have been in 1941 had some conservative politician said that President Roosevelt was a greater threat to America than the Axis. Or in 1915 if someone had said that President Wilson was a greater threat to America than the “Hun”. Or in 1812 if someone had said that President Madison was a greater threat to America than the Redcoats.

Is it okay to be patently disloyal now? Do members of the opposition no longer embrace the idea of “loyal opposition” to the president in office? Do we no longer owe our head of state any measure of respect at all?

I once knew a better America. And I’m not that old.
It’s a very good point on Charity /Cordiality especially in regard to the Executive office. Although I think one can argue the case that Obama holding the presidential “office” is an exception.
And they can flip it to suggest, that the president should ALSO be loyal to the interests of his nation/country, rather than his own self - interests. Where it looks he would rather alienate our allies, while coddling our foreign enemies.
Wasn’t it this week, that Obama called the American Electorate, “enemies” to a hispanic audience??

Therefore, I can say, that Obama is inspiring this kind of pushback from the Tancredo types.

All those presidents named above, served their country at a time when our enemies were black & white and the country was more united they had a common goal. Though Wilson and Roosevelt had some ugly shades (our own Bishop Fulton Sheen had a not to pretty run in with Roosevelt) but even with all their faults, they still served this country, they were not worse than our foreign enemies. It would be pretty hard to be. And I’m sure even then, they had their detractors that might have been like Tancredo, especially Roosevelt considering the beginnings of the Red Scare. Even Andrew Jackson was feared to be a tyrant.

While I think Tancredo has loose lips and is very reckless with what he says for the sake of attention and to build himself up, if someone was smarter in his position, they would make the case that right now, beyond Obama --that the Ultra leftists are running the Democratic Party Agenda, and they are a bigger concern right now in their actions, than our foreign enemies and are able to inflict more damage on this country in the long term.
They should be able to articulate that we have to be very responsible domestically too, to preserve this nation, and Obama’s administration (regardless of intent) is not doing that. Even Lincoln acknowledged that it’s how we manage within our borders, that is a greater influence on preserving our country.
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic giant to step the ocean and crush us at one blow Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. “At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us;** it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher.** As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.” Abraham Lincoln, 1837
But yes, the “loyal opposition” need not forget to regard that not all, are going along with this leftist radicalism, with ill-intent and calculation.

I don’t know Obama’s /Reid’s/ Pelosi’s angle (what is motivating him to put forth detrimental government laws) but lots of the Democrats (and some Republican statists too)are cowards or just ignorant or lack common sense, doesn’t mean they’re motivated to hurt us like that of an Al Quaida.

Remember, Obama for the past 18 months has been referring to Half the population as enemies, he even has his administration labeling, those who oppose his abortion stances, as “domestic terrorists” and mothers concerned about their taxes"extremists" and"racists" He has a plan to recriminate many of the very people he’s serving!

So I think it’s a two way street. You’re seeing a loss of respect to the current office holder’s office, because of the fact that Obama himself, has used it very disrespectfully, and holds HIS LOYAL opposition in CONTEMPT.
The guy, was on a Comedy Show yesterday, and was called ‘Dude’ by a comedian.

So it’s not surprising, loose-cannons within the “Loyal Opposition”, are no longer recognizing the office holder’s dignity and giving him such respect.
 
It looks like he’s bringing our Country down, single-handedly…

but there’s a whole network behind him, and those he has put in place.

He was formed and groomed for the position.
Anyone who has to read from a teleprompter isn’t all that bright.

Tis true. Obama is a bigger threat than al-Qaida.
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How can he be bringing our country down singlehandedly if there is a whole network behind him and he was formed and groomed for this position? Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Noticed any black United Nations helicopters flying around your house lately?
 
That was not True. One cannot get to the position that he achieved without having some GENUINE skills. You don’t get to be Governor AND manager of a Football Teamand ultimately be President without having some acumen.I don’t care how much George Senior influenced his Yale career.

The “english” part may have had something to do with the fact that Dubya may have had some sort of unacknowledged dyslexia. It is clear Dubya had SOME sort of condition affecting his speech. So it is NOT because he was “illiterate.”👍
President Bush didn’t manage a football team. He didn’t even manage a baseball team. He was a part owner of the Texas Rangers.
 
That was not True. One cannot get to the position that he achieved without having some GENUINE skills. You don’t get to be Governor AND manager of a Football Teamand ultimately be President without having some acumen.I don’t care how much George Senior influenced his Yale career.

The “english” part may have had something to do with the fact that Dubya may have had some sort of unacknowledged dyslexia. It is clear Dubya had SOME sort of condition affecting his speech. So it is NOT because he was “illiterate.”👍
When asked about his new book that is just coming out, he said “Well it will come as a great surprise to all my critics, who claimed I could not read never mind write a book” ofcourse Bush is not stupid, I have tremendous respect for him in the way he handled all the ugly negative things said about him when he was President. He simply ignored them unlike Obama who is constantly attacking those who dare disagree with him.🤷
 
In light of this evening’s news about explosive devices found on U.S. bound planes originating from Al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and intended for two Jewish temples in Chicago, Mr. Tancredo’s insinuation is just crazy talk. Pretty bad timing for silly rhetoric, Mr. Tancredo!
 
President Bush didn’t manage a football team. He didn’t even manage a baseball team. He was a part owner of the Texas Rangers.
Thank you for that. My memory goes sometimes. Thirty lashes with a wet noodle.

The point still stands----------you cannot get to be part owner of the Rangers if one is a total idiot. It was uncharitable still.
 
If he’s that big of a threat, then at least the country is safe from Al-Qaida.
 
Thank you. It’s a q well known fact (not so well known to some, apparently) that Bush is an avid reader. He has been personally mocked with falsehoods, that are still being perpetuated today. It’s amazing how many people get their news from SNL or Michael Moore. In real life, the book was not upside down.😦
Well since he already had to pull out the standard last-ditch appeal to gnostic relativism (aka “agree to disagree”, when they pretend objective facts are affected by personal “agreement” :rolleyes:) at least you know he doesn’t really believe his own accusation and is now only trying to save face…
 
I wonder what the reaction would have been in 1941 had some conservative politician said that President Roosevelt was a greater threat to America than the Axis. Or in 1915 if someone had said that President Wilson was a greater threat to America than the “Hun”. Or in 1812 if someone had said that President Madison was a greater threat to America than the Redcoats.

Is it okay to be patently disloyal now? Do members of the opposition no longer embrace the idea of “loyal opposition” to the president in office? Do we no longer owe our head of state any measure of respect at all?

I once knew a better America. And I’m not that old.
I suppose we’re going to ignore the ‘dissent is the highest form of patriotism’ garbage that liberals spewed from 2000-2008, right? The Democrats made it clear that they considered the idea of ‘loyal opposition’ to be a quaint, old-fashioned, non-progressive term. They have no interest in being loyal when they’re in the minority; what gives them the right to demand loyalty from Republicans when they’re the majority?

As for owing the head of state any measure of respect at all, refer to post #12 in this thread. The Democrats set the new standard; let them lie in the bed they made.
 
as usual, the topic was derailed to George W. Bush instead of relating to what the thread is about.

when the posters aren’t able to defend the president, they switch to GWB.

both the president and al qaida are threats to our country.
 
as usual, the topic was derailed to George W. Bush instead of relating to what the thread is about.

when the posters aren’t able to defend the president, they switch to GWB.

both the president and al qaida are threats to our country.
:amen:to that!
 
as usual, the topic was derailed to George W. Bush instead of relating to what the thread is about.

when the posters aren’t able to defend the president, they switch to GWB.

both the president and al qaida are threats to our country.
And they will be doing so for the next 100 years.
 
I concur; I think he needs professional help.
I read an article recently that made the comparison between the American Lefts’ increasing tendency to equate disagreement with their views as a mental disorder with the way the Soviet Union suppressed disent. Personally I think it’s just a matter of increasing hysteria as they see their grip on power slip way but it does give you cause to wonder what would happen if they did remain in power.
 
That was not True. One cannot get to the position that he achieved without having some GENUINE skills. You don’t get to be Governor AND manager of a Football Teamand ultimately be President without having some acumen.I don’t care how much George Senior influenced his Yale career.

The “english” part may have had something to do with the fact that Dubya may have had some sort of unacknowledged dyslexia. It is clear Dubya had SOME sort of condition affecting his speech. So it is NOT because he was “illiterate.”👍
Just a slight correction-he managed a baseball team- and he admits his “greatest” “accomplishment” was trading A-Rod away!
 
I wonder what the reaction would have been in 1941 had some conservative politician said that President Roosevelt was a greater threat to America than the Axis. Or in 1915 if someone had said that President Wilson was a greater threat to America than the “Hun”. Or in 1812 if someone had said that President Madison was a greater threat to America than the Redcoats.

Is it okay to be patently disloyal now? Do members of the opposition no longer embrace the idea of “loyal opposition” to the president in office? Do we no longer owe our head of state any measure of respect at all?

I once knew a better America. And I’m not that old.
What an interesting insight into the working of the liberal mind. First we’re told that dissent is a sign of a mental disorder. Now we are told is treason!
 
What an interesting insight into the working of the liberal mind. First we’re told that dissent is a sign of a mental disorder. Now we are told is treason!
Actually, first we were told that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. THEN we were told it’s a mental disorder, then treason.

I guess the definition of dissent varies depending on whether the Democrats or Republicans are in charge.
 
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