Thank you for your story.
Sometimes it’s not even a matter of rewarding good workers or punishing poor workers. The union chiefs are basically in it for themselves. They care not whether it ends up killing the industries or the companies. How many times do bankruptcy courts have to throw out the union contracts in order to be able to employ anyone at all.Thank you for your story.
Unions have their role, but it seems like if they become so inflexible, then what is the point? Isn’t the union supposed to protect the interests of the worker? If so, then good workers should be rewarded fairly?
ACA was not a feel good piece of legislation. In fact I would say it’s more like a bitter pill. But the need was obvious, and the other party had no appetite for the fight.
So, we have to deal with what we have. Sighting couples who value profit-materialism over their marriage does little to support your position.Given that the reductions in hours, the cancelled plans, the dropping of insurance for individuals and groups is in response to OBAMACARE please don’t trot out the canard of the evil corporations. Corporations are in business to make money and they will pay employees based on value added less costs incurred. When government forces costs UP, then companies either look for additional value from employees or they reduce costs which means either hours or benefits.ACA was not a feel good piece of legislation. In fact I would say it’s more like a bitter pill. But the need was obvious, and the other party had no appetite for the fight.
As for employer’s cutting hours, and engaging in other behaviors to dodge providing healthcare to their employees. They were already doing this simply for profit. What’s to be done? Deny them your business, and treat them as the pariah they are. They’ll come around as they love only profits.
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Given that the reductions in hours, the cancelled plans, the dropping of insurance for individuals and groups is in response to OBAMACARE please don’t trot out the canard of the evil corporations. Corporations are in business to make money and they will pay employees based on value added less costs incurred. When government forces costs UP, then companies either look for additional value from employees or they reduce costs which means either hours or benefits. Lisa, as you know health care costs have been sky rocketing for some time. So, we get the Affordable Care Act. Nothing you said here explains anything.
It’s because of OBAMACARE that this is all raining down on us now. We’ve never seen five million individuals lose insurance at the same time before. Hardly a conincidence. I agree. The companies that are throwing their employee’s care out the window should be punished. By us!
I have NO idea what you mean about couples “sighting” (citing?) profit over marriage. Birth control issuess have nothing to do with either subject. Get back on track. Your post makes no sense at all and isn’t related to the thread. The couple in the link (this story) provided was considering dissolving their marriage to save money.
O-BOMB-acare has more explosives in the chamber and only an executive action by Obama deflected the real disaster coming when the employer mandate kicks in. I handle the healthcare coverage for our three clinics and as I work in healthcare on the other side (as a provider) I see all of the dirty little secrets. Throwing your empty gun at the approaching enemy so soon?
Had Obama left the healthcare sector alone we would be far better off and had he decided to spend billions on healthcare it would have been far more effective in providing HEALTHCARE instead of broken websites, stupid advertisment and attorney fees to fight the DOZENS of lawsuits brought against the HHS.AS you no doubt recal, we tried letting first the Doctors, then the Insurance companies solve our health care problem. They both failed. So to let them run our system to the outer limits of cost is not a very sound plan.
Left, right or center does anyone thinks Obamacare has been a good use of tax dollars? It’s increased costs, decreased access, paralyzed the economy, caused endless heartache to those who are no longer covered or cannot afford the new premiums.
Don’t point fingers at the employers. Whether or not profit driven at least they are providing jobs for people. :dts:
Lisa
Lisa of course organizing our teachers has improved our educational system. It’s improved the lives of our teachers as well. But then you don’t really care about them do you?
Schools should be about the children and their benefits, not for the teachers. You are absolutely wrong that our education system has improved since teachers were unionized. Check the statistics on where we stand in the world, our level of knowledge, readiness for college, ability on standardized tests. Our public education is an embarassment considering the amount of money per student. No I am not blaming it all on teachers but I am certainly noting that teaching has gone from an honorable profession to where teachers are demanding, picketing, screaming, taking over state capitals, defending perverts, criminals, porn viewer who passed porn around to other teachers DURING school hours. Remember the Chicago teacher’s strike? Did you see those horrible, foul mouthed harridans screaming and demanding pay raises with the lowest percentage of graduates in the state and even nationally? They sounded uneducated with signs that demonstrated ignorance of grammar and spelling. You want this group teaching YOUR kids? I don’t. How many cases of even female teachers preying on children do we hear virtually every other week? Unions have helped maintain deadwood and have discouraged outstanding teachers who are stuck with the same wages as their lower value peers.
My union does. The company has the right to offer employees labor contracts that have terms that are favorable or better then what is contained in the labor contract. If the company wants to pay an employee more money then what is contained in the contract, the union will not stand in the way. We want our members to make as much money as possible.
I cannot speak for every union; only the one i belong to. I think we are very flexible when it comes down to contract talks. I belong to a white collar technical union; we make very good money, have very good benefits and a good relationship with the company.Thank you for your story.
Unions have their role, but it seems like if they become so inflexible, then what is the point? Isn’t the union supposed to protect the interests of the worker? If so, then good workers should be rewarded fairly?
It’s also important to realize that the teachers unions do not hire the employees, the school administrators do. The union has to represent them regardless of what they may be accused of because they have a legal obligation to do so.
Problem is that short-term school administrators have powers to negotiate long-term contractural arrangements of pensions and stuff. And then they wonder we have a pension crisis today.
We have funding issues in some pension systems (my own is over 100% funded ) because of a variety of events. Contract language is not one of them.
I hear a lot of pensions are “100% funded” until they realize the investments they made with the reserves didn’t/don’t produce as much as they expected. IOW NPV were distorted, Contract languages are useless before bankruptcy judges anyway. Just saying.
Actually that’s before courts at the moment. So, we’ll have to what to see justice prevail.