Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income: paper

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If there is enough revenue to pay all the bills & expenses, then what is the point of borrowing money you don’t need? :confused:
Many companies and individuals do it all the time. There is one prominent investment advisor — I hear them on the radio on Sunday mornings —, whose basic philosophy is to get everyone to mortgage to the maximum, so they can use the cash for other investments or save it for emergencies and such. You can issue stock to do the same thing, but with interest rates so low, borrowing makes some sense, though you and I probably wouldn’t do it.
 
It would be one thing if those conservatives would be against tax increases if they also didn’t start wars and pay for it by borrowing money. That is about as immoral as you can get, to tell our children that they have to pay for a war that they never agreed to in the first place.
Kinda like having the government hold your job safe and secure as you test the waters in the private sector? This way you can have the best of both worlds while gaming the system!

Pot meet kettle.:rolleyes:
 
Kinda like having the government hold your job safe and secure as you test the waters in the private sector? This way you can have the best of both worlds while gaming the system!

Pot meet kettle.:rolleyes:
Are you saying that private universities don’t offer leaves? How is my situation unique to the government?
 
It would be one thing if those conservatives would be against tax increases if they also didn’t start wars and pay for it by borrowing money. That is about as immoral as you can get, to tell our children that they have to pay for a war that they never agreed to in the first place.
Obama was a conservative when he warred on Libya? :confused:
 
Many companies and individuals do it all the time. There is one prominent investment advisor — I hear them on the radio on Sunday mornings —, whose basic philosophy is to get everyone to mortgage to the maximum, so they can use the cash for other investments or save it for emergencies and such. You can issue stock to do the same thing, but with interest rates so low, borrowing makes some sense, though you and I probably wouldn’t do it.
That only works if the return is bigger than the interest you’re paying. I just don’t have any confidence that a government is capable of doing that.
 
If there is enough revenue to pay all the bills & expenses, then what is the point of borrowing money you don’t need? :confused:
Outside of the Dave Ramsey school of economics, almost every business and financially successful individual does so primarily to utilize leverage. Additionally there can be tax advantages, emergency fund preservation, etc.
 
Outside of the Dave Ramsey school of economics, almost every business and financially successful individual does so primarily to utilize leverage. Additionally there can be tax advantages, emergency fund preservation, etc.
But, for a government?
 
But, for a government?
They can still utilize leverage through monetary policy, in order to manipulate the economy. Every government does it.

Although it certainly goes against the Austrian School of Economics, which is the only school which has accurately predicted pretty much ever recession. 😦
 
Obama was a conservative when he warred on Libya? :confused:
Conservatives are not the only group who like to go to war. But it is conservatives who pretend to be interested in fiscal responsibility. If you think government spends too much and that tax rates are too high, then only a hypocrite would both raise taxes and raise spending at the same time. I think it is quite clear that conservatives have no real interest in a balanced budget or cutting spending.
 
Conservatives are not the only group who like to go to war. But it is conservatives who pretend to be interested in fiscal responsibility. If you think government spends too much and that tax rates are too high, then only a hypocrite would both raise taxes and raise spending at the same time. I think it is quite clear that conservatives have no real interest in a balanced budget or cutting spending.
You might want to replace “conservatives” with “Republicans” – then you’d be pretty accurate in your assessment.

(As for me, a conservative, I think that tax rates should be tied to projected spending each year…and that this linkage should be published. I also think that mandatory withholding should be eliminated…so each quarter / year, you get to have the pleasure of writing a check for the full amount of your taxes)
 
You might want to replace “conservatives” with “Republicans” – then you’d be pretty accurate in your assessment.

(As for me, a conservative, I think that tax rates should be tied to projected spending each year…and that this linkage should be published. I also think that mandatory withholding should be eliminated…so each quarter / year, you get to have the pleasure of writing a check for the full amount of your taxes)
That is true. In reality, probably only 1% of the country are really true conservatives. After all, not true conservative can be in favor of social security and medicare. Since the market can easily provide annuities and insurance. But I was addressing the many who call themselves conservatives even though almost everyone who calls himself a conservative is not really one.
 
It would be one thing if those conservatives would be against tax increases if they also didn’t start wars and pay for it by borrowing money. That is about as immoral as you can get, to tell our children that they have to pay for a war that they never agreed to in the first place.
We’ve had the liberals running the show for 5 years now and all I see is more debt and death due to war.

Having our children pay for a war may or may not be immoral depending on the cause. Having our children pay our debt so politicians can stay in office hand out pork is.
 
We’ve had the liberals running the show for 5 years now and all I see is more debt and death due to war.
True. But conservatives are the ones who pretend to be interested in fiscal responsibility? And about the debt our children will inherit.
Having our children pay for a war may or may not be immoral depending on the cause. Having our children pay our debt so politicians can stay in office hand out pork is.
How is it every moral to spend a future generations money? I mean if you want to go to war, then you should make the sacrifice, Maybe it means riding a bicycle to work instead of driving, maybe it means skipping a meal a day. But it is never right to burden someone else with what you think is a good idea (I mean you in the sense of all those who support the war).
 
Are you saying that private universities don’t offer leaves? How is my situation unique to the government?
It doesn’t really matter if they do or not. Private pensions offer retirement benefits. Government offer retirement benefits through SS. They are no different in design.

If you want to call SS retirees lazy then you are no different.

Have some backbone, just quit. If not you really are hypocritical.😉
 
It doesn’t really matter if they do or not. Private pensions offer retirement benefits. Government offer retirement benefits through SS. They are no different in design.

If you want to call SS retirees lazy then you are no different.

Have some backbone, just quit. If not you really are hypocritical.😉
What was your point again? How is an unpaid leave government spending. What is my leave costing the government?
 
True. But conservatives are the ones who pretend to be interested in fiscal responsibility? And about the debt our children will inherit.

How is it every moral to spend a future generations money? I mean if you want to go to war, then you should make the sacrifice, Maybe it means riding a bicycle to work instead of driving, maybe it means skipping a meal a day. But it is never right to burden someone else with what you think is a good idea (I mean you in the sense of all those who support the war).
I look at WW2 as an example. I believe most would see it as a just war. We borrowed to support it. If we didn’t we would have treated our children immorally by not protecting them.
 
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