Taylor Swift?

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Oh, KISS! I heart KISS! Can I sit at the cool kids table? Or do I appear too needy at this point? Hmmmm…
Kiss…you know for a group that looks as edgy as they do…

I wanna rock n roll all night…
And party every day


Doesn’t seem much more edgy than:

OH, oh oh oh oh…
Hangin tough…
:whistle:
 
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Kiss…you know for a group that looks as edgy as they do…

I wanna rock n roll all night…
And party every day


Doesn’t seem much more edgy than:

OH, oh oh oh oh…
Hangin tough…
:whistle:
Oh yeah? Well Donnie Walberg can’t breath fire!!!

(My sister was addicted to them, and I used to tease the heck out of her)

So don’t you go insulting firebreathing dudes!!!
;););)😉
 
My high-school-aged daughter told us the following story, after we all were singing with a Taylor Swift song on the way to Easter Mass:

She was in the car with a bunch of girls and Taylor Swift was on the radio, and they were singing along. They stopped at a red light, and in the car beside them were four guys on the football team.

Listening to the same station.

Singing along with Taylor Swift!
 
  1. Yes, it’s relevent. You’re posting about relationships. Your relationship status IS relevent. If you were married with grown children than your post may have had some credibility
Again, you’re free to debate an issue on its merits; however, it is bad form to launch personal attacks for no apparent reason. How is saying something like this in the least bit constructive?
Yes. Of course. Becuase your ideas about women have been SO sucesful so far.
you just have some very strange ideas about women and dating. I’m suggesting the OP be very wary of your advice as you really seem to have no idea about women
No offense, but you sound bitter.
  1. No, but there’s a few people who’s posts are so ludicrious they stand out. You’re one of them
Judgmental much?
  1. Yes, anyone who posts should be aware that EVERYONE else is going to judge it for credibility and worthiness. Judgment and discernment is especally important on a forum.
There’s a fine line between constructive criticism and naked aggression. Your posts tend to fall in the latter category.
  1. What? I’m single. But I don’t post my life over the internet. I also don’t post about who I won’t date except those obvious things like someone under the influence of illegal narcotics.
Yes, I post parts of my life online, but you’re sorely mistaken if you think that’s the whole story. Like I said, you’re a stranger to me, and I hope I’m the same to you.
  1. The reason was that you equated Taylor Swift into making someone unable to enter into a relationship.
Again, that’s my personal preference. And as you’ve already established that it’s my loss, what’s it to you then?
  1. You’re free to look and notice any part of my life that I have posted on here.
Not interested.
Guess what. What you post is FAIR GAME. Like it or not.
I can’t prevent you from doing that, but I have the option of ignoring you.
 
I can’t prevent you from doing that, but I have the option of ignoring you.
Why don’t you take that up and leave her alone?

Both of you need to go back to the merits of the argument, not these personal attacks.
 
ok, i dont claim to be an expert on childraising or any of that but

Taylor swift, in my humble opinion, has no talent whatsoever

that being said, i see nothing wrong with the lyrics that she has

i just think she makes poor music, but what she says is clean
 
Both of you need to go back to the merits of the argument, not these personal attacks.
I have no intention of continuing this conversation.

I just came back from Mass, and the homily was on Christian charity. If purplesunshine wants to shake on it, I’m fine with that.
 
Here is what I ended up doing:

I let my daughter select five TS songs on iTunes. Then I pulled up the lyrics and decided if I thought they were appropriate. There was only one, ‘You Should Have Said No’, that I vetoed. It seemed to be about an affair of some kind and I didn’t feel comfortable with it.

Then we picked five classical (using classical in the generic) for her to add to the mix. We picked several styles for her to enjoy.

Both my wife and I are classically trained musicians, so we tend to place a strong emphasis on music. My daughter is a very talented singer and what I heard certainly wouldn’t cause me any grief (though listening to her scoop into notes is like fingernails on a chalkboard, but that is style…)

Thanks everyone for your comments!
 
Here is what I ended up doing:

I let my daughter select five TS songs on iTunes. Then I pulled up the lyrics and decided if I thought they were appropriate. There was only one, ‘You Should Have Said No’, that I vetoed. It seemed to be about an affair of some kind and I didn’t feel comfortable with it.

Then we picked five classical (using classical in the generic) for her to add to the mix. We picked several styles for her to enjoy.

Both my wife and I are classically trained musicians, so we tend to place a strong emphasis on music. My daughter is a very talented singer and what I heard certainly wouldn’t cause me any grief (though listening to her scoop into notes is like fingernails on a chalkboard, but that is style…)

Thanks everyone for your comments!
I think this is a good compromise. 👍
 
Again, you’re free to debate an issue on its merits; however, it is bad form to launch personal attacks for no apparent reason. How is saying something like this in the least bit constructive?

No offense, but you sound bitter.

Judgmental much?

There’s a fine line between constructive criticism and naked aggression. Your posts tend to fall in the latter category.

Yes, I post parts of my life online, but you’re sorely mistaken if you think that’s the whole story. Like I said, you’re a stranger to me, and I hope I’m the same to you.

Again, that’s my personal preference. And as you’ve already established that it’s my loss, what’s it to you then?

Not interested.

I can’t prevent you from doing that, but I have the option of ignoring you.
Why don’t you just admit that it was pretty judgmental to say a woman would be unfit for you if she listened to certain music, especially when it isn’t moraly objective? That it posting such a think is completely irrelevant to a thread about an 8 year old? And finally admit that prehaps you shouldn’t be posting about who you would and wouldn’t date because that list is impossibly long?
 
purplesunshine, I have no desire to continue this conversation any further. Like I said before, if you want to shake on it, I’m game. Have a good day.
 
I know the issue is resolved, as far as the OP has already made his decision, but I’ll jump in, with qualification, on the anti-TS side. As I think about it, maybe not so much “anti” as “teaching moment” side. I think TS songs are unrealistic about relationships in the real world - - I know, that describes most music, and it’s not supposed to be a documentary. Still - - marry me, you’ll never have to be alone? Not a real good understanding of Catholic thought on marriage. Sneaking out to see the ‘boyfriend’? Is this behavior you want emulated?

So, maybe those are the times to ask about your child’s understanding of marriage, dating, courtship, in an age-appropriate way, while enjoying the tunes.

Now, to be fair, I like traditional folk Irish and Scottish music, and one song all our gang (6,5,3 and 4 months) has been singing is “All for me grog”, so you may hear mine singing “all for me beer and tobacco”, but we do discuss how one should never smoke, it will make you sick, etc., and neither I nor my bride drink (or smoke), so I am less worried about glamorizing such activity. We also come up with alternative lyrics if we can, like when in the “Wild Rover”, the narrator sings that he spent all his money on whiskey and beer, we made it a ‘wild baby’ (what with having a relative newborn) who spent all his money on wipes for his rear (it will help to understand this reference if you know the tune youtube.com/watch?v=ONAuo51pTHY&feature=PlayList&p=E895E5CAB47BAE52&playnext_from=PL&index=30&playnext=2). I’ve also used “The Barley Mow” to discuss different measures of volume, and generally you can learn quite a bit of history from folk Irish music.

Rascal: I saw KISS in Allentown back in, oh, 1989? Not fond of them now, from a content standpoint, but that’s true of most of what I listened to back then.
 
ok, i dont claim to be an expert on childraising or any of that but

Taylor swift, in my humble opinion, has no talent whatsoever

that being said, i see nothing wrong with the lyrics that she has

i just think she makes poor music, but what she says is clean
I took my niece to a Taylor Swift concert, and that woman can’t sing. She does have talent for songwriting though, she should stick to that and step away from the microphone.
 
I actually like Taylor Swift. I really don’t see anything innappropriate with her.

Wehn I was 10 I received a Blondie album for my birthday(that’s right album, the black round thing with grooves ). I also used to have Donna Summer records, and remember dancing with my cousin to “Bad Girls” wearing our mother’s high heels. And Rod Stewart, “Do ya think i’m sexy”. Totally oblivious to what the songs meant.

So yes, Taylor Swift is a welcome breath of fresh air.
 
does anyone here think taylor swift is appropriate for an 8 year old girl? Thoughts
i am a parent of a young daughter and i approve of taylor swift more than any other singer out there… Good choice!!! And relax she is a good role model 🙂
 
Absolutely not.

Generally, pop culture is seriously warped at best and usually in the same category as oujia boards.

Many pop-tarts seems sweet and ‘aww shucks’ folksy. Take a good look at their music, their development, and importantly their company.

Ms. Swift is a superhighway to Beyonce, Pink, Lady Gaga, and other deeply disturbing ‘artists.’
 
Ms. Swift is a superhighway to Beyonce, Pink, Lady Gaga, and other deeply disturbing ‘artists.’
Not necessarily. If your taste in music runs to softer, sweeter stuff, you might very well enjoy Ms. Swift but wouldn’t care for the others.

Case in point–my daughters LOVE Pink, Beyonce, Keisha, and Lady Gaga–and they wouldn’t be caught dead listening to Taylor Swift. That’s just their taste in music.

Miz
 
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