Taylor Swift?

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Miserys_Fence said:
Case in point–my daughters LOVE Pink, Beyonce, Keisha, and Lady Gaga–and they wouldn’t be caught dead listening to Taylor Swift. That’s just their taste in music.
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It’s kind of funny. In my youth orchestra, you’ll usually hear the prodigies randomly singing stuff like Lady Gaga, but never any Taylor Swift songs. Similarly, I actually find the music of the artists you listed listenable, but I dislike their public image. And as much as I appreciate Taylor Swift’s clean image, I don’t really enjoy her music. In reality, many of the best musicians throughout history didn’t exactly have perfect personal lives, whether they were pop, folk, jazz, rock, or even classical.
 
KingTheoden said:
Absolutely not.

Generally, pop culture is seriously warped at best and usually in the same category as oujia boards.

Many pop-tarts seems sweet and ‘aww shucks’ folksy. Take a good look at their music, their development, and importantly their company.

Ms. Swift is a superhighway to Beyonce, Pink, Lady Gaga, and other deeply disturbing ‘artists.’
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It is not at all in the same category as Ouija boards, they are completely different from media in the churches eyes and either you know it and are ignoring it for the sake of making a statement or you don’t and shouldn’t be quick to make judgments on these types of things since you are not well sourced.
 
I actually introduced my daughter to Taylor Swift when her first album came out. I liked that she was a young lady, from a (apparently) nice, intact family, who wrote & sang her own songs, and seems to be a nice, modest person. Extremely rare nowadays.
I like all kinds of music & I have noticed many people do not actually listen to the words or meaning. It came to me when I was having a conversation about Sarah McLaughlin’s “Arms of the Angel” song, a girl wanted it for her wedding song to dance with her new husband. It is about Death!
When my kids got older, I noticed that ALOT on the pop channels were things I really didnt want them to hear. I switched over to country music about 3 yrs before I became a Catholic. I just found that I could actually listen to most of it with my kids in the car. It is also the only genre that is unapologetic in its patriotism (we are military so this is important to me).
Now that they are older, they have actually given up on some of mom’s country but now like MY mom’s music! My son also likes some 80’s hair bands! I can handle him listening to Europe rather than Eminem
 
I have to say that yes, I’m a TS fan. I love her music. However, I’m the kind of girl who is VERY careful as to what music I listen to. I do not accept ANY sexual music (even if it is just hinted at), and swearing isn’t really something I want to listen to. I can honestly say that Taylor Swift is a perfect role model for many young girls. Her songs are very cute about love and heartbreak, and fitting in and others. I can tell you that she would be perfect for your 8 yr old.
 
As far as singers go she is very clean. I have only found one song of hers that even slightly alludes to possibly living together before marriage, but chances are it will blow right over the head of an 8 year old. I know much more blatant things blew over my head at that age. No matter what, it is important to make sure she realizes where her values are and evaluates her values and how they are like or unlike those of the entertainment industry. It is important to teach her that when she buys a CD that money supports the artist and EVERYTHING that artist stands for. I think it is nearly impossible to purchase only from artists that are perfect examples, but it is important to avoid those that are clearly not good role models. (Example: Lady Gaga…yikes!)
 
Iheartcoffee said:
As far as singers go she is very clean. I have only found one song of hers that even slightly alludes to possibly living together before marriage, but chances are it will blow right over the head of an 8 year old. I know much more blatant things blew over my head at that age. No matter what, it is important to make sure she realizes where her values are and evaluates her values and how they are like or unlike those of the entertainment industry. It is important to teach her that when she buys a CD that money supports the artist and EVERYTHING that artist stands for. I think it is nearly impossible to purchase only from artists that are perfect examples, but it is important to avoid those that are clearly not good role models. (Example: Lady Gaga…yikes!)
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LOL at this thread getting bumped. I used to be such a huge taylor swift fan because all of her songs were so wholesome. I was in utter shock when I saw the first music video to her latest album. I don’t remember the name, but the lyrics allude to a moving in together before marriage but the video does the same thing. Maybe I am being overly critical, but Taylor is seen as a role model and knows this. I don’t understand why her video had to portray this. I was really saddened and to be honest I haven’t listened to her much since.
 
jackiem said:
LOL at this thread getting bumped. I used to be such a huge taylor swift fan because all of her songs were so wholesome. I was in utter shock when I saw the first music video to her latest album. I don’t remember the name, but the lyrics allude to a moving in together before marriage but the video does the same thing. Maybe I am being overly critical, but Taylor is seen as a role model and knows this. I don’t understand why her video had to portray this. I was really saddened and to be honest I haven’t listened to her much since.
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Unfortunately, some formerly squeaky clean singers sell-out as they get older; I hope I am wrong about Ms Swift. There are alternatives in the Christian/CCM market. Britt Nichole, Krystal Myers and Francesca Battistelli are all appropriate for the tween/teen and even pre-teen set. Ms Battisteli is also a Catholic
 
While everyone seems to agree that Taylor Swift is harmless, but I figure I would throw this out.

Every swift song I talk about seems to be about how important a boy is and things like this concern me and I would make an effort to talk about her lyrics in contrast to real life.
 
Bporte00 said:
While everyone seems to agree that Taylor Swift is harmless, but I figure I would throw this out.

Every swift song I talk about seems to be about how important a boy is and things like this concern me and I would make an effort to talk about her lyrics in contrast to real life.
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Thank you!

My 8 year old daughter sings along with TS songs when they come on the radio - her cousin has the music. I don’t like to hear a little girl sing about “some boy being someone elses boyfriend but he should be mine and why doesn’t he see me…” on and on and on.

I don’t like my younger kids listening to pop music in general. It was certainly easier with my oldest daughter, because it wasn’t played in the house. Now my older kids have it and the younger ones are introduced earlier than I’d like, but I still try to keep them from listening to it too much.
 
jesusfreak4ever said:
I have to say that yes, I’m a TS fan. I love her music. However, I’m the kind of girl who is VERY careful as to what music I listen to. I do not accept ANY sexual music (even if it is just hinted at), and swearing isn’t really something I want to listen to. I can honestly say that Taylor Swift is a perfect role model for many young girls. Her songs are very cute about love and heartbreak, and fitting in and others. I can tell you that she would be perfect for your 8 yr old.
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I suppose her songs are innocent enough, but should an 8 year old really be worrying about boys and love and heartache? Really?

Do these songs, not encourage the idea of boy/girl relationships for somebody so young.

A child that age and yes an 8 year old is a CHILD, may not get the deeper meanings, but it certainly is going to encourage an interest in relationships that is really not necessary at that age.

In one of the songs it talks about the girl wanting to sneak out to the garden to meet her boyfriend(sure in the end the father gives his approval and they seem to end up getting married but it’s still disobedience on her part.

In another it talks about her friend giving away her virginity (doesn’t use the word, but it’s there) and while it may be seen as a lesson, is that appropriate lessons for 8 year olds.

In another of her popular songs we find her wanting the attention that is being given to another girl.

One of her most popular songs is “15” and to me that would seem a much more appropriate age for listening to her music.

Yes by today’s standards it all probably seems harmless, but the earlier you allow your children to be exposed to such ideas, the sooner they may be ready or wanting to move onto more grown up ideas.
 
I don’t think Taylor Swift is a bad artist, and in many ways I believe she is one of the better teen role models out there.

However, getting an 8-year old a CD seems a little odd… most children that age are too busy and engaged to sit down and listen to a CD. My parents let me listen to all of their music when I was little, so I grew up on all kinds of music. My dad likes everything from African drum beats to Enya, so I got a nice eclectic mix. They never listened to anything vulgar or suggestive, no rap. I liked a lot of heavier rock when I was about 12, but by then I was a bit older and it was just different.

When I was 8, music was just background noise in the car, or something my dad would try to teach us to dance to (we all learned to shag, dip, and do the Charleston). As corny as it sounds, music was the soundtrack playing as a backdrop to my young life. I never retreated into my room and plugged in a CD player.
8 year olds are still pretty formative and need lots of stimulation… maybe encourage audio books along with music, such as Stewart Little or Charlotte’s Web?

Geez I am sounding like an old fogie. :rolleyes:
 
heart4home said:
I suppose her songs are innocent enough, but should an 8 year old really be worrying about boys and love and heartache? Really?

Do these songs, not encourage the idea of boy/girl relationships for somebody so young.

A child that age and yes an 8 year old is a CHILD, may not get the deeper meanings, but it certainly is going to encourage an interest in relationships that is really not necessary at that age.

In one of the songs it talks about the girl wanting to sneak out to the garden to meet her boyfriend(sure in the end the father gives his approval and they seem to end up getting married but it’s still disobedience on her part.

In another it talks about her friend giving away her virginity (doesn’t use the word, but it’s there) and while it may be seen as a lesson, is that appropriate lessons for 8 year olds.

In another of her popular songs we find her wanting the attention that is being given to another girl.

One of her most popular songs is “15” and to me that would seem a much more appropriate age for listening to her music.

Yes by today’s standards it all probably seems harmless, but the earlier you allow your children to be exposed to such ideas, the sooner they may be ready or wanting to move onto more grown up ideas.
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I suppose I should agree. Maybe next time I should think a little more about the question being asked. Sorry. Its just that immediately when someone is sort of asking if Taylor Swift is appropriate, my immediate answer is yes. However, I didn’t consider appropriate for what age group. I agree with you now that I have seen that point of view.
 
*** NOTE: I am not a parent. ***

I am a huge Taylor Swift fan, & I am very impressed at how clean her music & image are. There’s nothing I see as raunchy or inappropriate. I’m a 14 year old girl who likes clean music. She is always very modest in clothing, & her songs are clean. The topics are typical tween stuff… Love, break ups, heart breaks, fitting in, growing up, etc.

She says “damn” in one song on her first album, if you have a problem with that word. It’s in Cold As You, & the line is, “You never did give a damn thing, honey,” That’s it, though, & it was one song & she hasn’t done it since. (:

Hope I helped!
 
&& True, heart break & such isn’t really for 8 year olds, but I doubt they really understand it. They’ll just sing the words with the catchy tune.
 
I think her music is completely appropriate for an 8 year old. My daughter LOVES her! I’m not sure I can think of any other artist who is more appropriate for an 8 year old…?
 
I’m sorry. I believe there is something of the beaten dead horse in this post but I can’t help myself.

I have heard exactly one song by Taylor Swift: Love Story. My daughter heard about her from some friends and we pulled up that song and listened. I found the lyrics inappropriate and said there was better music out there that was more supportive of family and we looked for that.

If I understand the song correctly, she sneeks out, meets a boy, and this is more important than family, normalizes strife over family unity and portrays parents as unfeeling/not understanding. Also, he’s the prince and she’s the scarlet letter? ewww.

Or is there another scarlet letter?

If you want to compare this to Romeo and Juliette, as she is obviously trying to do, there a lesson in the bard’s story and those kids suffer dire consequences for their actions. Taylor Swift gets to behave this way, normalizing it, and only gets happy consequences in return.

We chose a song to download instead that honors those puppy love kinds of feeling while maintaining chaste affection AND family unity.

As I said, I can only spk about one single song but as a sample, that really ruined it for the rest.

so, a belated vote for no.
 
Taylor Swift is basically “clean and wholesome.” Nothing wrong with your daughter listening to her. 👍
 
Shes alot better than a kid listening to classic light rock. And she seems better than the boy bands that I listened to at that age. New Kids On The Block anyone?
 
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