Tea party wins in northeastern primaries could bode well for Democrats

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estesbob said:
Too bad Obama won’t release his college transcripts so we could see if he was
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You know, to engage in conspiracy theorizing here-------😃

It’s proven he attended Harvard, but not ONE person remembers him attending and graduating from Dartmouth in1983 before Harvard. Not ONE. The vice-presidential candidate for the Libertarian party in 2008 with Bob Barr (I forget his name) graduated from Dartmouth the same year as Obama (1983) with the same major (political science) as Barry and he cannot remember Obama as one of his classmates. And they had the same MAJOR.

Curious times we live in…🤷

Not quite accusing Barry of anything regarding his “time” in Dartmouth, but one has to wonder. Of course the media will not investigate----since it is ridiculous, right?😊
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
I don’t quite think the Democrats trashed her for having a disabled child. What they questioned was whether she was using cute little Trig as as “prop” in order in order for her to be seen as being a sensititive person and “one of the people.” That was what the controversy was all about. And I agree it was a vile thing to intimate to be sure. :eek:

It actually went further than that. You may remember the accusations that Trig was actually Bristol’s child----- that Sarah was pretending Trig was hers in order for the family to save face. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Aside from that, I agree with you that Palin seems to be woman of strength, conviction and deep Christian morals. It’s too bad her family left Holy Mother Church and became Pentecostal, but one can only hope for a “homecoming.”🙂
Good post. 👍
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Thank you. I also wish she’d come back to the Catholic church, but I admire her values. Even if gasp! her family isn’t perfect. We are all fallen people.

As for other posts, no I do not mean that all democrats do this, but those who are treating her this way certainly are on the left.

I am just a sucker for kids I guess. You can berate and insult Palin all you want, but when you have to attack a woman’s children to bring your opponent down a peg or two, I lose all respect for that person or organization doing it. And no, my feelings are not limited to party lines. I am equally disgusted with Rush for what he said about Obama’s daughters. It’s sick, sick, sick. And the fact that you don’t exactly see a whole lot of democrats standing up and saying “hey, you know what? Let’s keep the kids out of this!” certainly makes me raise an eyebrow.

I am saying that Palin is a woman of strength because she stood up for herself as long as she could. I do not fault he for seeking to better the world in different and much safer avenues when her family was being ripped at by the media to try to discredit her. I certainly wouldn’t have held out as long, and I am impressed that she did.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
And if I’m not mistaken one of the ethics charges had to do with the state covering certain legal fees of hers. But it shouldn’t be the burden of the taxpayer to put up with ignorant liberals who don’t like their governor.

Just think: What’s were Obama’s grades? Oh we don’t know.

Beau, Obama’s like a production engineer in the oil field. Yea, we might need him to come in and figure out the calculation of the fluid velocity in a certain pipe running up hill at a certain angle to determine a certain pump size.

But he, like most “academic stars”, would never be able to figure out how to install the pump, or fix the pump or any of the other daily operations that non-academic stars can do.

So, like in the oil field we occasionaly have to remind the engineer where his place is. Intellectuals have a very limited place in the political world…legal advisors, that’s about it. When it comes to actually doing something, they just mess it all up.
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Regarding Obama’s grades at Harvard—I don’t know, but you might want to take a look at my post above this one. 👍
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
You know, to engage in conspiracy theorizing here-------😃

It’s proven he attended Harvard, but not ONE person remembers him attending and graduating from Dartmouth in1983 before Harvard. Not ONE. The vice-presidential candidate for the Libertarian party in 2008 with Bob Barr (I forget his name) graduated from Dartmouth the same year as Obama (1983) with the same major (political science) as Barry and he cannot remember Obama as one of his classmates. And they had the same MAJOR.

Curious times we live in…🤷

Not quite accusing Barry of anything regarding his “time” in Dartmouth, but one has to wonder. Of course the media will not investigate----since it is ridiculous, right?😊
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Wayne Allen Root.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
You know, to engage in conspiracy theorizing here-------😃

It’s proven he attended Harvard, but not ONE person remembers him attending and graduating from Dartmouth in1983 before Harvard. Not ONE. The vice-presidential candidate for the Libertarian party in 2008 with Bob Barr (I forget his name) graduated from Dartmouth the same year as Obama (1983) with the same major (political science) as Barry and he cannot remember Obama as one of his classmates. And they had the same MAJOR.

Curious times we live in…🤷

Not quite accusing Barry of anything regarding his “time” in Dartmouth, but one has to wonder. Of course the media will not investigate----since it is ridiculous, right?😊
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Gee, maybe that’s becaues he didn’t go to Dartmouth. Obama went to Occidental College for two years then transferred to Columbia. He graduated from Columbia in 1983. The internet rumor that no one remembers him there is an urban myth. Lots of people remember going to school with him in Columbia.

I thought we were done with this kind of nonsense on this forum?
 
CMatt25 said:
I need to be heading off to dinner. But Obama was at least a state and US senator unless you’re counting Palin’s time as a mayor. But I’m from a small town and we had a great long time mayor. I forget how long Palin was mayor of Wasilla. (sp?) But ours served many many yrs. Not sure though that would have made him qualified to be VP or President. Regarding Hillary, she might well be President today if not for her vote in support of the Iraq war. Was the main reason I did not support her in my primary. Peace.
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I agree Hillary lost partly because of her not regretting her vote over Iraq. But it was not the only reason, though. It was also because her “beloved” husband started shooting off his mouth and made stupid comments that some characterized as insensitive and racist towards the Black community and the comments rubbed off on her. Plus Obama took full advantage of that.

Personally I consider Governor of a State to carry more weight than State Senator. but that is just me.
 
TMC said:
Gee, maybe that’s becaues he didn’t go to Dartmouth. Obama went to Occidental College for two years then transferred to Columbia. He graduated from Columbia in 1983. The internet rumor that no one remembers him there is an urban myth. Lots of people remember going to school with him in Columbia.

I thought we were done with this kind of nonsense on this forum?
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Actually, TNC, THANK YOU for reminding me. I hadn’t thought about the controversy for a while and I guess Dartmouth somehow into my mind. It indeed was Columbia. And it was Columbia that Wayne Allen Root graduated from. Once again, thank you.

However----

The point is, if you Google “Did Obama go to Columbia?” you will find there is INDEED a controversy reagrding anybody remembering him or any records surfacing of him having attended and graduated from there in 1983.

For example, American Grand Jury has repeatedly tried to obtain Barry’s graduation diploma from Columbia and they refuse to produce it. They also will not say whether Obama graduated under the name Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama.

There is also no record of him attending any formal functions or classes there under the Major of Political Science. No homecomings, no announcements of him, no mention of him in the GRADUATING CLASS ROSTER. Nothing. And it was Columbia that Root was talking about when he said he could not remember Obama attending there or graduating there in 1983.
Even wikipedia say him and Obama graduated in the same year from Columbia with the same degree. How come Root cannot remember him?
NOBODY I have researched has any recollection of the man there at Columbia. Why???

Oh well. like you said, it’s probably nonsense. Guess I’ll “drop” it then…😃

One thing—it is not an Internet “Myth.” Not by a long shot. 👍
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
I’ll try. My original point that the TeaParty started as a Republican backed and corporate sponsored event It precludes it being a grass root movement.

thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

mediamatters.org/research/200908060014

videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-gop-thugishness-town-halls-called
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As a former Democrat party official who cut his political teeth on organizing the “grass roots” and producing them for this or that, I know real ones when I see them. I don’t care whose idea it was or who pays for the poster printing, the Tea Party is truly a “grass roots” thing. If you didn’t know another thing about it, the kinds of people in that movement are such that causing them to do something they weren’t determined to do on their own would be like trying to herd cats. It just happens that a whole lot of them got very angry all at the same time.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Just think: What’s were Obama’s grades? Oh we don’t know.

Beau, Obama’s like a production engineer in the oil field. Yea, we might need him to come in and figure out the calculation of the fluid velocity in a certain pipe running up hill at a certain angle to determine a certain pump size.

But he, like most “academic stars”, would never be able to figure out how to install the pump, or fix the pump or any of the other daily operations that non-academic stars can do.

So, like in the oil field we occasionaly have to remind the engineer where his place is. Intellectuals have a very limited place in the political world…legal advisors, that’s about it. When it comes to actually doing something, they just mess it all up.
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We do know, however, that he earned a doctorate from Harvard. That is no easy feat. Nice to know you think intellectuals have a limited place in politics. That may be so on the far right, but those on the left tend to like educated people in leadership positions. Of course, I can’t speak for everyone.
 
Ridgerunner said:
As a former Democrat party official who cut his political teeth on organizing the “grass roots” and producing them for this or that, I know real ones when I see them. I don’t care whose idea it was or who pays for the poster printing, the Tea Party is truly a “grass roots” thing. If you didn’t know another thing about it, the kinds of people in that movement are such that causing them to do something they weren’t determined to do on their own would be like trying to herd cats. It just happens that a whole lot of them got very angry all at the same time.
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Quite a coincidence. Did they all just happen to say the same things at the same time, too.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
We do know, however, that he earned a doctorate from Harvard. That is no easy feat. Nice to know you think intellectuals have a limited place in politics. That may be so on the far right, but those on the left tend to like educated people in leadership positions. Of course, I can’t speak for everyone.
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Well, you don’t necessarily have to be “educated,” as in “college educated” to be an “intellectual for the Right.” Winston Churchill never graduated from an University either, as far as I know. 👍

Thanks for the links about the Tea Party, by the way. I’ll look over them.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Actually, TNC, THANK YOU for reminding me. I hadn’t thought about the controversy for a while and I guess Dartmouth somehow into my mind. It indeed was Columbia. And it was Columbia that Wayne Allen Root graduated from. Once again, thank you.

However----

The point is, if you Google “Did Obama go to Columbia?” you will find there is INDEED a controversy reagrding anybody remembering him or any records surfacing of him having attended and graduated from there in 1983.

For example, American Grand Jury has repeatedly tried to obtain Barry’s graduation diploma from Columbia and they refuse to produce it. They also will not say whether Obama graduated under the name Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama.

There is also no record of him attending any formal functions or classes there under the Major of Political Science. No homecomings, no announcements of him, no mention of him in the GRADUATING CLASS ROSTER. Nothing. And it was Columbia that Root was talking about when he said he could not remember Obama attending there or graduating there in 1983.
Even wikipedia say him and Obama graduated in the same year from Columbia with the same degree. How come Root cannot remember him?
NOBODY I have researched has any recollection of the man there at Columbia. Why???

Oh well. like you said, it’s probably nonsense. Guess I’ll “drop” it then…😃

One thing—it is not an Internet “Myth.” Not by a long shot. 👍
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Who in the entire world remembers everyone they ever went to school with. Talk about nonsense.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
We do know, however, that he earned a doctorate from Harvard. That is no easy feat. Nice to know you think intellectuals have a limited place in politics. That may be so on the far right, but those on the left tend to like educated people in leadership positions. Of course, I can’t speak for everyone.
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Yes, we like educated people as well. But we are able to seperate the educated and ignorant from the educated with common sense.

I bet it’s not easy getting a doctorate, does not mean you have a lick of sense though.

Liberals have a hard time understanding that smart people regardless of how well spoken they are, can be pretty darn stupid sometimes.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
We do know, however, that he earned a doctorate from Harvard. That is no easy feat. Nice to know you think intellectuals have a limited place in politics. That may be so on the far right, but those on the left tend to like educated people in leadership positions. Of course, I can’t speak for everyone.
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I don’t think I would go into a swoon just yet. Every law graduate everywhere earns a doctorate. Every year, Harvard graduates something like 500 law grads, all with doctorates. Then there’s Yale, Stanford, Virginia, Penn, Notre Dame, etc, etc, etc, etc. Thousands and thousands. I guess one could say they’re all “intellectuals” in a sense. But does their education command our attributing wisdom to them, particularly? There are also the graduates in physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, philosophy, political science, economics, business. It’s possible that a doctorate often means simply “had the educational background. Went there”.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Who in the entire world remembers everyone they ever went to school with. Talk about nonsense.
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Not everybody has such poor memory like you apparently have, like you have, ViaDolorosa. Particulalry Root, who was in the same MAJOR as Obama. (Same classes at the same time----get it?)
Particulalry since Barry Soetoro/Obama was the kind of person you know was GOING places. And it’s not just Root. NOBODY remembers good ole Barry at Columbia in the early 80’s. And his name is not in the graduating rolls.
Oh well. Just wanted to respond to the “Harvard records” question. 🤷
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t think I would go into a swoon just yet. Every law graduate everywhere earns a doctorate. Every year, Harvard graduates something like 500 law grads, all with doctorates. Then there’s Yale, Stanford, Virginia, Penn, Notre Dame, etc, etc, etc, etc. Thousands and thousands. I guess one could say they’re all “intellectuals” in a sense. But does their education command our attributing wisdom to them, particularly? There are also the graduates in physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, philosophy, political science, economics, business. It’s possible that a doctorate often means simply “had the educational background. Went there”.
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I should just delete what I say and copy and paste what you say. I get myself into trouble being too honest sometimes.
 
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