Teacher loses license for having sex with students

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The title has an ambiguous ring to it. It sounds as if some teachers have licenses for having sex with students and now a teacher has lost his license.
 
Tenofovir said:
The title has an ambiguous ring to it. It sounds as if some teachers have licenses for having sex with students and now a teacher has lost his license.
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LOL, I guess I should have said ‘after’ instead of ‘for’. I’ll be more careful next time 🙂
 
So where is the prosecution for pedaphilia? Sex with minors of an adult in an authority position? Or the civil law suit against the teacher?

I am glad she lost her teaching license, but really if it was a male teacher with female students, he would be in jail for 30+ years.
 
jilly4ski said:
So where is the prosecution for pedaphilia? Sex with minors of an adult in an authority position? Or the civil law suit against the teacher?

I am glad she lost her teaching license, but really if it was a male teacher with female students, he would be in jail for 30+ years.
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It is a double standard. But I think male (teen) victims of female sex abuse are usually not as affected as female victims of male abuse. That’s not to say it’s permissible.
 
Tenofovir said:
It is a double standard. But I think male (teen) victims of female sex abuse are usually not as affected as female victims of male abuse. That’s not to say it’s permissible.
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I would guess they are (just as boys are effected by male sexual abuse), but they have been conditioned to not talk about it, to think it is cool, they had sex with an older woman, they had sex with a girl period, etc. (Some men on this site have talked about being victims of sexual abuse from older women).
 
jilly4ski said:
I would guess they are (just as boys are effected by male sexual abuse), but they have been conditioned to not talk about it, to think it is cool, they had sex with an older woman, they had sex with a girl period, etc. (Some men on this site have talked about being victims of sexual abuse from older women).
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True. As a society we get angry about male on female and male on male abuse, much less so about female on female/male abuse.
 
jilly4ski said:
So where is the prosecution for pedaphilia? Sex with minors of an adult in an authority position? Or the civil law suit against the teacher?

I am glad she lost her teaching license, but really if it was a male teacher with female students, he would be in jail for 30+ years.
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I hope the charges and civil suits are still in the works and not being let go. If they were my children, I’d make sure they weren’t let go.
 
Notice anything missing here?

The school district received credible allegation back in 2008, but she was allowed to continue teaching until now? Is the school district planning on declaring bankruptcy due to the enormous civil lawsuit judgements placed against it? No, you say?

Anybody doubt that if this were a priest instead of a teacher not only would the priest be in jail, but lawyers would have their talons into every asset of the entire diocese by now?

Crimes such as this are apalling and MUST be punished accordingly. But I cannot understand why the law can recognize that it is not in the pulbic interest to seize assets of school districts that are for the benefit of the populace, but is unable to recognize the exact same situation with the Church.

More people need to notice this blatant and biogted double standard.
 
Reason being the state prosecutors or whoever is suing don’t think of church property as being of benefit to the populace. Because of course, the nasty Catholics are keeping all their wealth to themselves and rioting among the artwork of the Vatican. :rolleyes:
 
manualman said:
Notice anything missing here?

The school district received credible allegation back in 2008
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That isn’t quite accurate. The news article says that both the police and the school board conducted investigations and determined that there wasn’t enough evidence to pursue charges. It was only in 2011 that new information came to light, allowing for action to be taken.
 
jilly4ski said:
So where is the prosecution for pedaphilia? Sex with minors of an adult in an authority position? Or the civil law suit against the teacher?

I am glad she lost her teaching license, but really if it was a male teacher with female students, he would be in jail for 30+ years.
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Depends on the age of the students. I don’t know what the age of consent in Canada is, but if the students were at least that old, there’s nothing criminal about the relationships.
 
manualman said:
… Is the school district planning on declaring bankruptcy due to the enormous civil lawsuit judgements placed against it? …
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You have to remember that when someone sues a government entity, he is actually suing everyone in the jurisdiction of that entity. All the government need do is increase taxes. The Church can’t arbitrarily raise donations that people give voluntarily. There also seems to be a significant overlap between those who want big government and those who want to break the Church.
 
sedonaman said:
You have to remember that when someone sues a government entity, he is actually suing everyone in the jurisdiction of that entity. All the government need do is increase taxes. The Church can’t arbitrarily raise donations that people give voluntarily. There also seems to be a significant overlap between those who want big government and those who want to break the Church.
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The Church can’t be broken if it hasn’t done wrong or if its clergy haven’t done wrong. My diocese was never sued, for that reason.
 
manualman said:
Notice anything missing here?

The school district received credible allegation back in 2008, but she was allowed to continue teaching until now? Is the school district planning on declaring bankruptcy due to the enormous civil lawsuit judgements placed against it? No, you say?

Anybody doubt that if this were a priest instead of a teacher not only would the priest be in jail, but lawyers would have their talons into every asset of the entire diocese by now?

Crimes such as this are apalling and MUST be punished accordingly. But I cannot understand why the law can recognize that it is not in the pulbic interest to seize assets of school districts that are for the benefit of the populace, but is unable to recognize the exact same situation with the Church.

More people need to notice this blatant and biogted double standard.
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I completely agree. If it was a priest, comments would have been allowed on that article the second it went online. I admit I didn’t check again before posting this (my internet speed is one step up from dial up), but at the time I started this thread, comments were not allowed on this article. It appears to be okay to bash the Church on CBC’s public forum, but not a teacher who’s admitted her guilt. It’s the same double standard.
Rich_Olszewski said:
Depends on the age of the students. I don’t know what the age of consent in Canada is, but if the students were at least that old, there’s nothing criminal about the relationships.
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The age of consent is 16 in most cases. Sometimes it is lowered to the age of 14, but only when the other party is no older than 16. When it is a case like this however, where the offending party is in a position of trust, the age of consent is raised to 18.
 
Dale_M said:
That isn’t quite accurate. The news article says that both the police and the school board conducted investigations and determined that there wasn’t enough evidence to pursue charges. It was only in 2011 that new information came to light, allowing for action to be taken.
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So? The standard dioceses are held to is the presence of a ‘credible accusation.’ If the subsequent investigation fails to produce prosecution-worthy evidence, but is less than total exonneration the diocese is held liable if that priest is ever later found guilty for abuse because they ‘transferred him.’

How is that not a double standard?

How is stealing the money that would ahve been used to fund tuition assistance, food pantries, job training and other ministries any different than taking public school district money to pay lawyers? It’s not like the abuser priest is being punished by bankrupting dioceses. It’s not like Archbishop Rembert Weakland has to live in a carboard box in his retirement for what he did. Instead it is the PEOPLE of the diocese that are punished for the misdeeds of rogue priests and bishops. That’s practically the definition of injustice.
 
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