Tears for my SSA Daughter

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My youngest daughter of four is 17. She is involved with a non Catholic girl she met in High School her freshman year. I became suspicious that this friendship was more than friends when they would spend excessive time on the phone and their body language was “flirtatious”. The girl came to church with us, and spent time at our house, but, there was something off about her interaction with the family, especially me. She was the pursuer at first. I began to limit their time together and had a couple discussions with them about inappropriate behavior. This led to them becoming more secretive and hiding their conversations. Their relationship became intense and obviously concerning about 4 months after they first met.

That was 21 months ago. Our journey has been painful. Our daughter is now a Junior and at her 3rd High School in attempts to find the right place for her. We are faithful Catholics that homeschooled or sent the kids to Catholic school for most of their lives. Our oldest children believe in chastity and are probably more rooted in the faith than their father and I. At a critical time in this daughter’s upbringing, we were struggling as a family with my husband’s alcoholism and the recovery that goes with it. It was several years of job losses for him, financial crisis including bankruptcy and food stamps, and a mom that was absent as I was working 3 jobs in attempts to “save the family”. My own recovery was only by God’s grace as I was contributing to this family disease as much as my husband. I would say that I sacrificed being there for my daughter in a way she really needed me… and now we are paying a hefty price. While the active alcoholism has subsided, the effects continue.

My daughter says she never felt a connection to God. She felt “nothing” when she received her First Holy Communion or her Confirmation. She feels “nothing” when she goes to Mass, and admits to no prayer life. She has been brought up in the church, attending Mass, Youth Group, etc. Saying that, though, she was also exposed to the secular world as we know it. TV shows, songs with explicit lyrics, etc. She was particularly attracted to the secular world. I was unaware about how she felt about her faith until this SSA issue came up. I spent the first year after the discovery in stages of grief, denial, despair, anger, and sorrow. I have researched, prayed, sought counsel, visited our pastor. We learned about the Apolstolate EnCourage. We were firm in our discipline in that her dishonesty would lead to a loss of privileges. No phone, no computer, no iPod… There were times that I thought things were improving. She would eventually earn her privileges back. But, what was really going on was she was going back underground with the relationship.

My daughter has never claimed herself a lesbian, saying it is a “special relationship” with this particular person. She never showed signs of this in her younger years, and in fact says she was “disgusted” when she saw homosexuality portrayed on tv. I believe she was vulnerable and was preyed on by an older teenager that had claimed herself as gay. This young lady was sexually abused, abandoned by her parents, and raised by lesbian women. We did not know this until it was too late. Now my daughter has been fed lies about our family that we are bigoted, prejudice, hate filled people that want to keep her from her happiness. Her counselor says this behavior is due to her being in cognitive dissonance, or unacceptable conflict by having SSA and being Catholic.

Most recently, she snuck out under the pretenses she was with some new friends and ended up spending the night with this girl. They did in fact have a sexual encounter. I only know this due to the discovery of her phone and their documentation of the secret meeting. We spent the last week in turmoil. Again seeking the guidance of two priests, praying heavily, and pulling her privileges yet again.

Our family is at some peace after almost 10 days of prayer and spiritual counsel. One thing we realize is we can not control her feelings, beliefs, or actions. We are suffering and will do our best to unite that to the cross. She is willing to speak to the priests, but, remains somewhat defiant and firm that she doesn’t agree with the church. I will never be able to condone this relationship. But, I don’t want to lose my daughter. I want her to know I will always love her, but, can’t compromise what the Church teaches.

I am seeking prayers, as well as suggestions of books, retreats, or any other resources to help with this situation. We have exposed her to the Theology of the Body for Teens, though I don’t think she was engaged in it. She attends our youth group, though it is not a very big or vibrant group.

Interesting to note, her confirmation saint is St. Monica. We are asking both her, St. Augustine, her son, whose feast day is her birthday, and especially the Blessed Mother to intercede for her and our family as we walk this very difficult path.

Sorry for the length of this post. But, I appreciate having an avenue to seek support.

Thank you, and God Bless.
 
One of my cousins seemed to be having some sort of relationship with another girl of the same age when they were in college. It took a while for the family to notice (I didn’t even really bat an eye when they shared a bed while visiting me–lesbians are like the Spanish Inquisition–no one expects them), but around the time the family started to talk, the female friend got engaged to a man and then got married and started a family. My cousin likewise recently married. I don’t know how physical the relationship was, but it was very emotionally intense and they were very much wrapped up in each other (my cousin had suffered the break up of her family through divorce a few years earlier). They are still great friends. I wonder if sometimes, particularly with young women, whether it isn’t just a case of friendship taking a wrong turn.

I have not had teenagers yet, but the only thing I can suggest is to treat the situation exactly as you would if it were an inappropriate relationship with a boy, and enforce exactly the same level of consequences, no more, but also no less.
 
Take a deep breath and ask the question, “How would I respond if my daughter were having this level of relationship with a young man, and not a young woman?” The fact that she has a girlfriend rather than a boyfriend does not matter here – it’s the intensity of relationship and the sin involved that matters. You need to step away and accept her, accept her completely, even if she’s gay.

Being gay is not a terrible, awful thing. Being gay does not cause someone to sin. Members of the church can be confused about this, but homosexuality is simply a temptation that some people experience. I myself experience it. It doesn’t cause me to sin. If I sin, I sin because I choose to give into temptation.

Your daughter needs absolutely NO level of judgment placed on her. If any adviser or priest or whoever is saying that her desires are sinful in themselves, keep her away from that adviser. She needs to see the love and mercy of the Church.

It may be that she’s not ready to repent. That’s OK. Augustine wasn’t ready to repent, not for a long time. And Augustine’s sin had a harmful result – leaving a child without a family – that your daughter’s sin does not have.

You don’t need to tell her what to do anymore; she knows what you want for her. Just let her know her dignity, and let her know how fervently you are praying for her. I know this is hard. You have my prayers!
 
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Interesting to note, her confirmation saint is St. Monica. We are asking both her, St. Augustine, her son, whose feast day is her birthday, and especially the Blessed Mother to intercede for her and our family as we walk this very difficult path.
This is so important. I will join you in your prayers.

The most important thing is to remember her at Mass and have patience and confidence in God’s mercy.

The fact that she talks about not “feeling” anything related to religion might show that she seeks or needs comfort first before traveling the road of faith. Let’s ask the merciful Lord to touch her with his consolations so as to draw her toward more faith.

Never give up hope.
 
Have you heard of Steve Gershom? He was this gay Catholic blogger who carried a fresh perspective: he was fully practicing his faith, living a chaste life, and did not have an ounce of bitterness or anger at the church because of it.

This is a guy from an outstanding Catholic family (I know, because I know them). His sister is Simcha Fisher, the blogger. His parents did everything right, if that’s possible, and he still has SSA. Sometimes it’s just there, no matter what parents do. He just “came out of the closet” to the world, so to speak, by revealing his real identity, Joseph Prever. Below is that blog post. I think his description of how his family reacted to his revelation, could help your relationship with your daughter.

stevegershom.com/2013/08/yoiks-and-away/

It is possible that your daughter feels estranged from God because she does not think she can be gay and be Catholic. Perhaps she has felt SSA for a long time, and felt like a hypocrite trying to cultivate a connection with God. Perhaps something for you to consider is try to connect her with people like Joseph Prever, for friendship and and example of an alternative lifestyle to that which she is going down. What I really like about Prever that is so different is that he emphasizes that sexual orientation is not the most important defining characteristic of a person, which is so so contrary to the gay world’s message.
 
Thank you to everyone that has taken a moment to read and reply to my post. I am taking comfort in your words and appreciate them so much. This is not something you openly discuss and it is helpful to have a place to let this out.

I am going to pray myself to sleep now…Believe me there were nights when I cried myself to sleep. I would write more, but, am feeling extremely tired.

Again, thank you to all that have responded. I appreciate any prayers you may offer!
 
Lord, please grant many graces to this mother, daughter, and family, that they might somehow be drawn through this matter close to your Sacred Heart. Send angels to minister to this daughter and instill in her a zeal for things holy and recognition of the good. Grant her many graces for fortitude, wisdom, joy, faith, hope, and charity. May justice and truth always characterize this whole family. Shine some of your heavenly light onto this whole family, that the warmth draw them closer to you. Help them persist through this fallen, earthly pilgrimage. In every suffering or joy in this family’s life, remind them that what you ask for is love, for the Father, and for each other. Have mercy, Lord. Our Lady, angels, and saints, pray with us. Amen.
 
Just a quick reply to offer some support and empathy.

I also have a SSA attracted daughter. Our family background was troubled, with divorce and some very confusing hardships for the children. This daughter was always a very affectionate, considerate child, but never had any strong contact with God or the faith. She came to Mass regularly, just to be with the family, but drifted away as soon as she could. When I noticed her first lesbian infatuation, at 20, I thought that it was a one-off thing, however that relationship ended and there have been a series of others. (I was able to see, in hindsight, other SSA relationships before the first one I noticed). It’s a way of life for her. She seems to be quite intense and passionate in these relationships. Unfortunately, her general lifestyle is wasteful and undirected, with her making only modest progress in studies and career. At least she is self-sufficient financially. She is now approaching 30.

I will keep you and your daughter in my prayers. Please remember my daughter in yours. 🙂

Edmundus
 
Have you heard of Steve Gershom? He was this gay Catholic blogger who carried a fresh perspective: he was fully practicing his faith, living a chaste life, and did not have an ounce of bitterness or anger at the church because of it.

This is a guy from an outstanding Catholic family (I know, because I know them). His sister is Simcha Fisher, the blogger. His parents did everything right, if that’s possible, and he still has SSA. Sometimes it’s just there, no matter what parents do. He just “came out of the closet” to the world, so to speak, by revealing his real identity, Joseph Prever. Below is that blog post. I think his description of how his family reacted to his revelation, could help your relationship with your daughter.

stevegershom.com/2013/08/yoiks-and-away/

It is possible that your daughter feels estranged from God because she does not think she can be gay and be Catholic. Perhaps she has felt SSA for a long time, and felt like a hypocrite trying to cultivate a connection with God. Perhaps something for you to consider is try to connect her with people like Joseph Prever, for friendship and and example of an alternative lifestyle to that which she is going down. What I really like about Prever that is so different is that he emphasizes that sexual orientation is not the most important defining characteristic of a person, which is so so contrary to the gay world’s message.
Thanks for the link. Prayers for the OP. God bless.
 
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