Ted Turner Compares FoxNews To Hitler

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caroljm36:
What’s funniest about this is that the photo makes Turner himself look like Hitler, his face all twisted with rage. A case of projection perhaps?
No kidding. If you go to this website: adolfhitler.ws/index.php, then go into the gallery and halfway down on page 3, you’ll find a photo of the Fuhrer that could be ol’ Ted’s twin, shaking fist and all.

Of course, most people realize that Ted Turner isn’t hitting on all eight cylanders, any more than Adolf was. I hate to say it, but Ted’s left-wing traitorous Commie wife Jane has more stability than he does.
 
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Trelow:
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TED TURNER COMPARES FOXNEWS TO HITLER
Tue Jan 25 2005 15:53:55 ET

Ted Turner called FOX an arm of the Bush administration and compared FOXNEWS’s popularity to Hitler’s popular election to run Germany before WWII.

Turner made the controversial comments in Las Vegas before a standing-room-only crowd at the National Association for Television Programming Executives’s opening session.

His no-nonsense, humorous approach during the one-hour Q&A generated frequent loud applause and laughter, BROADCASTING & CABLE reports.

While FOX may be the largest news network [and has overtaken Turner’s CNN], it’s not the best, Turner said.

He followed up by pointing out that Adolf Hitler got the most votes when he was elected to run Germany prior to WWII. He said the network is the propaganda tool for the Bush Administration.

“There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s certainly legal. But it does pose problems for our democracy. Particularly when the news is dumbed down,” leaving voters without critical information on politics and world events and overloaded with fluff," he said.

A FOXNEWS spokesperson responded: “Ted is understandably bitter having lost his ratings, his network and now his mind – we wish him well.”

In 1996, Turner apologized to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) for comments he made comparing FOX head Rupert Murdoch to Hitler.

Developing…

drudgereport.com/flash3tt.htm
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black;) That picture of him is killing me:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I wish FOX would show the charge and the picture on a satyrical piece:D That is classic.God Bless
 
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Matt25:
So does the BBC
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4187267.stm
Viewpoints: Iraq elections
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                                         **Elections will take place in Iraq on Sunday despite dangerous insecurity in large parts of the country.** It has been estimated 40% of the population may be unable to vote, raising fears that the new assembly will not adequately reflect Iraq's ethnic composition.
But some Iraqis believe the elections will still prove a milestone.

We asked six commentators what effect they thought the elections would have.

What do you think about the elections? Please use the form at the bottom of the page to tell us your views.
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              **Yehia Said, Iraq specialist, London School of Economics**
“This election is not truly representative”
**Farid Sabri, spokesman for the Iraqi Islamic Party **

“A national slate will benefit religious fundamentalists”
Michael Rubin, Iraq analyst, American Enterprise Institute

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“They should have been put off. There must now be dialogue”
**Larry Diamond, democracy specialist, Hoover Institution **

“Around 65% of Iraqis are very anxious to vote”
Editor of electoral news in the Iraqi Media Network

“The elections are crucial for the empowerment of women”
Zainab al-Suwaij, American Islamic Congress
I choose to get my news form an american source. Also, my comment is in regards to lead stories on TV, not random articles on the internet.
 
Michael C:
I choose to get my news form an american source. Also, my comment is in regards to lead stories on TV, not random articles on the internet.
Only Americans tell the truth perhaps. Except those pesky Liberal elitists of course. If you only use sources that you know in advance that you agree with you will never need to think I suppose thus stopping your brain from hurting. I was thinking of lead TV stories too but its difficult to convey them over the internet. Apart from BBC TV there is BBC radio you can listen to over the net. You could also visit channel4.com/news/index.html

If you insist on American sources you could try NPR npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1001, oops sorry more pesky Liberal elitists. Considering American Conservatives are such a persecuted minority its quite a surprise to discover that they have the presidency, the senate, the house of representatives, most of the senior judiciary, fox news, the Chicago Tribune, the Washington Times etc, etc.

By the way if you want to check out how accurate Fox is visit outfoxed.org/
 
Did Ted Turner make any comments about Dan Rather? If he is going to say that Fox is run by Bush than shouldn’t he admit that all of the other media outlets are run by the Democratic Party?

That’s all I can write because people like Ted Turner really, really get me going.

ybiC,
Trevor
 
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Matt25:
Only Americans tell the truth perhaps. Except those pesky Liberal elitists of course. If you only use sources that you know in advance that you agree with you will never need to think I suppose thus stopping your brain from hurting.
Matt, you seem to know so much about me and yet we’ve never met? I happen to watch network news and also watch FOX news. I am open minded. I find that on fox everyone has a voice. On the US networks there is only one voice. I have also watched Arab news and find it poisonous. It’s grafic and hateful. I avoid it now. You’re post comes off as less than charitable. Maybe you should try harder to respect others opinions. Peace.
 
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Matt25:
Only Americans tell the truth perhaps. Except those pesky Liberal elitists of course. If you only use sources that you know in advance that you agree with you will never need to think I suppose thus stopping your brain from hurting.
No need for talk like this Matt. If your argument is solid, you shouldn’t need to rely on insults.

ybiC,
Trevor
 
Michael C:
You’re post comes off as less than charitable. Maybe you should try harder to respect others opinions. Peace.
If you are pained by my post then I apologise, my intention is to challenge not to hurt.

On the subject of Fox News

usatoday.com/life/television/news/2004-07-20-advocacy-fox-news_x.htm

NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News’ use of the slogan “Fair and Balanced” constitutes deceptive advertising, two political advocacy groups claimed Monday in a petition filed with the Federal Trade Commission.
Liberal MoveOn.org and historically nonpartisan Common Cause assert that Fox News’ reports are “deliberately and consistently distorted and twisted to promote the Republican Party of the U.S. and an extreme right-wing viewpoint.” (**Related story: **Documentary exposes Fox News)

Alleging consumer fraud, the complaint calls for the FTC to order Fox News, consistently the highest-rated cable news network, to cease and desist from using the slogan.

Chellie Pingree, president of Common Cause, said the legal actions were consistent with the First Amendment. “Fox has no obligation under the law to be fair and balanced, just not to market itself as fair and balanced,” he said.

After a press conference announcing the petition, members of MoveOn.org and Common Cause marched to the Fox News Headquarters to hand out DVDs of the recent documentary Outfoxed, which alleges a pattern of right-wing biases in the network’s reporting, citing statements by former Fox employees and internal memos.

The documentary is Exhibit A in the FTC petition.

At the press conference, Common Cause’s Pingree said the petition was consistent with the 34-year-old citizen advocacy group’s history, and a response to the “growing firestorm about what’s going on with the media.”

Fox has sought to trademark its “Fair and Balanced” motto, which also has been met with legal action.

Independent Media Institute, a not-for-profit promoter of independent journalism, filed a petition last December with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office challenging Fox’s trademark request.

The IMI’s petition claims that the term “fair and balanced” is so prevalent as to be generic, and is “entirely mis-descriptive” when it comes to Fox News.

Last summer, Fox News Channel tried to block publication of liberal humorist Al Franken’s book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, saying it made unauthorized use of Fox’s “fair and balanced” slogan.

The judge dismissed Fox’s case, saying it was “wholly without merit,” and the trademark “Fair and Balanced,” registered by Fox in 1998, was weak. He also said the network was “trying to undermine the First Amendment.”

news.tbo.com/news/MGB2LJEHJ3E.html

Two former WTVT, Channel 13, reporters filed a petition Monday with the Federal Communications Commission to deny renewal of the station’s license for ``intentionally airing false and distorted news reports’’ in 1997.

Jane Akre and Steve Wilson, who worked for Channel 13 in 1996 to 1997, say the station violated the public trust by ordering them to put a favorable slant on news reports they were preparing about a growth hormone given to dairy cattle in Florida.

The married couple, who now live in Jacksonville, say Fox-owned WTVT feared a lawsuit from hormone maker Monsanto because their reports would have raised questions about health hazards.

The couple say they refused to alter the story and were fired.
 
Misperceptions, The Media and The Iraq War October 2, 2003

Variations in Misperceptions According to Source of News The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. These variations cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographic characteristics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the demographic subgroups of each audience.

The widespread presence of misperceptions naturally raises the question of whether they are to some extent a function of an individual’s source of news. In other words, did people vary in the frequency of their misperceptions according to their source of news? To find out, in three different PIPA/KN polls conducted in June, July, and August-September, an aggregate sample of 3,334 respondents was asked “Where do you tend to get most of your news?” and offered the options of “newspapers and magazines” or “TV and radio.” Overall, 19% said they tend to get most of their news from print media, while 80% said they tend to get their news from TV and radio. Respondents were then asked which network, if any, is their primary source of news. Responses are shown below.
Two or more networks…30% Fox…18 CNN…16 NBC…14 ABC…11 CBS…9 PBS-NPR…3

The same respondents were also asked about their perceptions. 1,362 respondents received all three perception questions that identified the clearest cases of misperception, i.e., the beliefs that evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq. Composite Analysis Because it provides the best overview of the relationship between media sources, we will first analyze the relationship between media sources and the presence of multiple misperceptions, to determine the variance in the level of misperceptions according to the respondent’s news source. Afterward we will analyze the variance for specific misperceptions. An analysis of those who were asked all of the key three perception questions does reveal a remarkable level of variation in the presence of misperceptions according to news source.

Standing out in the analysis are Fox and NPR/PBS–but for opposite reasons. Fox was the news source whose viewers had the most misperceptions. NPR/PBS are notable because their viewers and listeners consistently held fewer misperceptions than respondents who obtained their information from other news sources.

Listed are the breakouts of the sample according to the frequency of the three key misperceptions (i.e. the beliefs that evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq) and their primary news source. Fox News watchers were most likely to hold misperceptions—and were more than twice as likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions. In the audience for NPR/PBS, however, there was an overwhelming majority who did not have any of the three misperceptions, and hardly any had all three.
pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf
 
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Matt25:
Misperceptions, The Media and The Iraq War October 2, 2003

Listed are the breakouts of the sample according to the frequency of the three key misperceptions (i.e. the beliefs that evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq) and their primary news source. Fox News watchers were most likely to hold misperceptions—and were more than twice as likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions. In the audience for NPR/PBS, however, there was an overwhelming majority who did not have any of the three misperceptions, and hardly any had all three.
pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf
I would say that this right here shows that this study is not very important. It also raises suspicion that the study is not “fair and balanced”.

The study is not important (in terms of which source is more accurate) because only three perceptions were measured. Each one of the perceptions would be just the one’s that a liberally biased media outlet would grab and run with. I would expect that the more liberally biased the news organization the more frequently they would report on this and for how long.

If we assume that the viewers of Fox are more conservative on average, and the viewers of PBS are more liberal then there would also be the bias of the respondent’s own wishes. If there were also three questions that asked say: Did the 9/11 report place blame on president Bush? Or, was Sadom ever found to be violating UN sanctions etc…I would think that the results would be different. Because the questions were as they were, I think the desired outcome was achieved.
 
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Matt25:
Misperceptions, The Media and The Iraq War October 2, 2003

Variations in Misperceptions According to Source of News The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. These variations cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographic characteristics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the demographic subgroups of each audience.

The widespread presence of misperceptions naturally raises the question of whether they are to some extent a function of an individual’s source of news. In other words, did people vary in the frequency of their misperceptions according to their source of news? To find out, in three different PIPA/KN polls conducted in June, July, and August-September, an aggregate sample of 3,334 respondents was asked “Where do you tend to get most of your news?” and offered the options of “newspapers and magazines” or “TV and radio.” Overall, 19% said they tend to get most of their news from print media, while 80% said they tend to get their news from TV and radio. Respondents were then asked which network, if any, is their primary source of news. Responses are shown below.
Two or more networks…30% Fox…18 CNN…16 NBC…14 ABC…11 CBS…9 PBS-NPR…3

The same respondents were also asked about their perceptions. 1,362 respondents received all three perception questions that identified the clearest cases of misperception, i.e., the beliefs that evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq. Composite Analysis Because it provides the best overview of the relationship between media sources, we will first analyze the relationship between media sources and the presence of multiple misperceptions, to determine the variance in the level of misperceptions according to the respondent’s news source. Afterward we will analyze the variance for specific misperceptions. An analysis of those who were asked all of the key three perception questions does reveal a remarkable level of variation in the presence of misperceptions according to news source.

Standing out in the analysis are Fox and NPR/PBS–but for opposite reasons. Fox was the news source whose viewers had the most misperceptions. NPR/PBS are notable because their viewers and listeners consistently held fewer misperceptions than respondents who obtained their information from other news sources.

Listed are the breakouts of the sample according to the frequency of the three key misperceptions (i.e. the beliefs that evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq) and their primary news source. Fox News watchers were most likely to hold misperceptions—and were more than twice as likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions. In the audience for NPR/PBS, however, there was an overwhelming majority who did not have any of the three misperceptions, and hardly any had all three.
pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf
Matt, I’m not absorbing anything from these long posts. All I can say is that Fox news appeals to me. They report on a country I love, not a country that should feeel guilty and self hating as other news outlets do (In my iopinion). There are also little things, during Christmas, Fox news wished me a “Merry Christmas”, something that connected with me. They report on deaths and opposition to what’s going on in Iraq and also show goods things that are happening and they portray out soldiers as the heroes they are. I hope my post challenges you as much as you challenge me. Peace.
 
I both agree AND disagree with Ted Turner
  1. Anyone who cant see that Fox News is INDEED a propaganda arm of this administration needs to remove their “Rose Colored” glasses. On this I agree with Teddy boy…doesnt mean I like the man…but one wishing to become truly educated cannot write off wackos on EVERYTHING they say.
  2. He compares Fox News to Hitler…on THIS I vehemenently disagree… if anything, Fox News is to be compared to Al-Jazeera News…like Fox, they’re also run by the Govt.
 
Faithful 2 Rome:
I both agree AND disagree with Ted Turner
  1. Anyone who cant see that Fox News is INDEED a propaganda arm of this administration needs to remove their “Rose Colored” glasses. On this I agree with Teddy boy…doesnt mean I like the man…but one wishing to become truly educated cannot write off wackos on EVERYTHING they say.
Hogwash. Tell Gretta that she isn’t liberal. Tell Alan Colmes. What about all the guests? They have the right to speak and say what they think. There are plenty of Democrats that get interviewed, and independents too. I really think that you have the rose colored glasses. It is the only station that will even report on the Catholic issues. What’s up with you?
 
I think we all watch too much T.V. 😃

Until tomorrow,
Same Bat time,
Same Bat channel,
This is Trevor,
Signing off 👍
 
Matt,

BBC? Are they fair and balanced? It seems Lord Hutton would argue with you on that one. Perhaps you should read his report. Here’s some commentary…

stephenpollard.net/001422.html

It reads to me like a british “Dan Rather” incident. I guess it’s okay with you since their shoddy reporting is from a liberal perspective. I agree with others that news should be accessed from a variety of sources.

I primarily use the internet for my news (fox, msnbc, bbc, telegraph, times, wsj), but I do enjoy watching Brit Hume’s Special Report. My primary reason for the british sites is that events in various countries are easier to find there, but I do read them all with a sceptical eye.

God Bless,

Robert.
 
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