Teilhard de Chardin, petition of the Culture Dicastery to remove the "Monitum"

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The Plenary Assembly of the Pontifical Council for Culture largely approved a proposal to reach Pope Francis, asking to contemplate whether it is possible to remove the Monitum of the Holy Congregation of the Holy Office on the works of Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin , SJ The DISF portal , made by the Interdisciplinary Documentation Research Center for Science and Faith erected at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome.

The petition was approved on Saturday November 18 during the work of the Assembly on “The Future of Humanity: New Challenges to Anthropology” . The proposal, as raised by the online newspaper Sir , is thus motivated: "We believe that such an act would not only restore the genuine effort of the pious Jesuit in an attempt to reconcile the scientific vision of the universe with Christian escatology but would also represent a formidable a stimulus for all theologians and scientists of good will to collaborate in the construction of a Christian anthropological model that, following the directions of the encyclical Laudato, is naturally placed in the wonderful plot of the cosmos. "

Pope Francis - reads on the site - could receive the proposal in the next few days and this would also be in line with his speech at the Plenary Assembly in which he called for "greater dialogue also between the Church, community of believers, and the scientific community. " Pierre Teilhard de Chardin is certainly not a new figure for the Pope who quoted him in a note of the encyclical Laudato as’(cf. No. 83), grasping its positive contribution to a cosmic breath of Christocentrism. Known for the high apologetic value of his work, especially in the scientific sphere, considered by many as a pioneer in the analysis of biological evolution in the light of faith, Teilhard was subject to disciplinary provisions by the Jesuit Congregation in the 1920s century and a Monitum by the then Congregation of the Holy Office. http://www.lastampa.it/2017/11/21/v...na.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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It’s about time !

Father Theilhard de Chardin was far ahead of his time, and even Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI quoted him as they spoke about the bridge between faith and science.

Jim
 
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Of course Medawar had his own agenda, one being an atheists and one having a prejudice against the French.

On the latter, here’s a quote by him;

Medawar declared:

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. I believe that a reasonable case can be made for saying, not that we believe in God because He exists but rather that He exists because we believe in Him… Considered as an element of the world, God has the same degree and kind of objective reality as do other products of mind… I regret my disbelief in God and religious answers generally, for I believe it would give satisfaction and comfort to many in need of it if it were possible to discover and propound good scientific and philosophic reasons to believe in God… To abdicate from the rule of reason and substitute for it an authentication of belief by the intentness and degree of conviction with which we hold it can be perilous and destructive… I am a rationalist—something of a period piece nowadays, I admit.
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Over the decades since 1961, Teilhard’s theory on evolution are proving to be true and as a result, even in his own time as Medawar admits, was well regarded by the science community. Remember, Teilhard was invited by other scientists to join their team and they hence discovered Peking Man.

That all being said, the Church is now accepting Teilhard’s writings and seeking to lift the Monitum on his writings.

Jim
 
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JimR-OCDS said:
Over the decades since 1961, Teilhard’s theory on evolution are proving to be true and as a result, even in his own time as Medawar admits, was well regarded by the science community. Remember, Teilhard was invited by other scientists to join their team and they hence discovered Peking Man.
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A quote from Medawar seems apt:
How have people come to be taken in by The Phenomenon of Man? We must not underestimate the size of the market for works of this kind, for philosophy-fiction. Just as compulsory primary education created a market catered for by cheap dailies and weeklies, so the spread of secondary and latterly tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well-developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. It is through their eyes that we must attempt to see the attractions of Teilhard…
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Not even close.

It’s from 1961 when the theory of evolution was highly debated and also, from an atheist who disagreed with Chardin’s connection between science and faith.

Pope St John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI often quoted Teilhard De Chardin when speaking about the bridge between science and faith.

Jim
 
Of course this is your opinion which the Church today doesn’t share.

Conscious Evolution as Chardin explained it is real for anyone familiar with the development of the human being.

We no longer stone adulterers and homsexuals and we no longer hang heretics, because the conscious spiritual evolution of humans has led us to see the evil in those acts alone. As Chardin also explains, evolution, biological and intellectual is according to God’s design.

Evolution of humans is what God intended in becoming Jesus Christ,

Can you imagine Jesus coming at a time when man could not understand what the wheel was ?

Fact is, God planned that Jesus would come when the Good News of the gospel could be spread throughout the world.

It’s obvious you don’t like Teilhard De Chardin more because you misunderstand what he wrote than anything else.

I praise God that the leaders of the Church today aren’t so closed minded.

Jim
 
Some popular quotes by Teilhard De Chardin.

We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

In the final analysis, the questions of why bad things happen to good people transmutes itself into some very different questions, no longer asking why something happened, but asking how we will respond, what we intend to do now that it happened. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Personal success or personal satisfaction are not worth another thought if one does achieve them, or worth worrying about if they evade one or are slow in coming. All that is really worth while is action - faithful action, for the world, and in God. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

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Don’t bother linking that blog again.

Jim
 
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In 1968, a volume of Teilhard de Chardin’s writings, Letters to Two Friends 1926-1952, was published by The New American Library as part of their Perspectives in Humanism Series. The complete volume is available online at Archive.org (Letters to two friends, 1926-1952 : Teilhard de Chardin, Pierre : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive).

Several internet sites have posted critical evaluations of Teilhard’s work that include one particular passage from Letters written by Teilhard in 1927 (pp. 67-68). Here is the entire paragraph for context.
As regards China, I am beginning to be puzzled about her real possibilities. Up to now I have held — and I am still inclined to believe — that our inability to come to an understanding with this country is due to the fact that we regard it with eyes and minds that are narrow and Mediterranean. In the light of the convergent evidence that I have gathered here from the most diverse men, I see an increasing possibility for another hypothesis, namely, that the Chinese are arrested primitives, victims of retarded development whose anthropological substance is inferior to ours. “They have quick minds,” one hears, “but no constructive ability, no tenacity to sustain an effort, no will power, no great passion. And there emanates from their mass an invincible force of leveling and ‘dissolution.’ Everything that tends to stand out among them is immediately reduced to zero. Everything that lives for a long time among them is psychologically diminished, weakened.” I have a good half-dozen friends who do not seem to me to correspond to this portrait. But are they exceptional, terminal individuals, or do they represent a germ and a blueprint for the future? Scientifically, I believe that the problem is still unsolved and that it is the outcome of the present crisis which will begin to determine the solution. Neither the Christian attitude of love for all mankind, nor humane hopes for an organized society must cause us to forget that the “human stratum” may not be homogeneous. If it were not, it would be necessary to find for the Chinese, as for the Negroes, their special function, which may not (by biological impossibility) be that of the whites. I do not like these prospects. But they may some day become necessary. Is not the real way to conquer the world to utilize its faults, and not to deny them, if they are irremediable? Think it over and you will see that it is not “opium” that I am offering you. -Teilhard de Chardin
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The letter is what he wrote to a collegue while Chardin was in China, post WWI, before the Revolution of Mao,

He’s questioning what he is seeing not making a definitive statement which you and another anti-Pope Francis site used. Based on your blog, it’s probably the site you copied your original post from. You’ve since edited the post.

Try reading in the context of the words he used. Again, it was in the book of letters of which he wrote.

Jim
 
Read the article in the OP, it’s about how Chardin was misunderstood and how there is a petition to Pope Francis to remove the Monitum which was placed against him long ago. Back then, anything to do with evolution was viewed with great skepticism. Not so today and even the Church says that acceptance of evolution as science presents today is acceptable. Chardin was part of that discovery process when he went to China and studied the geology of the world. He was a geologists, not a biologists. Sheldon Cooper would not have liked him. 😃
You are the one who has repeatedly conflated Conscious Evolution with the scientific theory of evolution,
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Actually I didn’t, this is your misunderstanding which helps serve as to why you misunderstand the works of Teilhard De Cardin,

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When I see links to blog sites which copied information from another blogsite which calls the Post Vatican II Church the “New Age Church,” and does not refer to Pope Francis as the Pope, but just Francis, I have no use for such anti-Catholic sites.

It’s obvious that there are those who dislike the Catholic Church today and have an agenda they’re serving, but it’s not the Catholic Church.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
When I see links to blog sites which copied information from another blogsite which calls the Post Vatican II Church the “New Age Church,” and does not refer to Pope Francis as the Pope, but just Francis, I have no use for such anti-Catholic sites.

It’s obvious that there are those who dislike the Catholic Church today and have an agenda they’re serving, but it’s not the Catholic Church.
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Couldn’t agree more.
 
I haven’t read the work but it seems inane to deny that we do have an evolving conscious as a society. We used to own slaves, now we don’t. We used to regularly war with our immediate neighbors and steal their resources, now we don’t. Much as a child matures, our society is also maturing. Not all the changes are good or permanent, but there is a sort of evolution at play.
 
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Teilhard De Chardin was speaking about the conscious or actually spiritual evolution of human beings from the beginning of time.

Anyone who doesn’t believe that the God is not connected to the forces of law are generally atheists.

Chardin’s theory was that humans evolved biologically relatively fast until about 10,000 years ago. Then the biological evolution process slowed way down. However the conscious/spiritual evolution sped up and continues to evolve to do so to this day.

As you can see in this thread, there are those who reject this, but there were many in the Church who also rejected St Teresa of Avila and St John of the Cross’ teaching on spirituality.

Unfortunately, the Church today is divided by those who have religion without spirituality and reject those who speak about having a deeper spiritual experience in their Christian lives.

Their words against Pope Francis in Catholic social media is an example.

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Well, from a web site that I cannot link to, I find this quite interesting:
“By the mid- to late 1950s, his theories were extolled by many, if not most, Jesuits, including Karl Rahner, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, and especially Henri de Lubac, who wrote glowingly of Teilhard: “We need not concern ourselves with a number of detractors of Teilhard, in whom emotion has blunted intelligence””

Funny, I seem to have read that last quote somewhere recently.
 
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