Telestai?

[Nathan_Wagar]

I get the “telestai means paid in full” argument tossed at me a lot. Now correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t this word have multiple meanings in the Greek determined by context? I had heard somewhere that it was, yes, used as an accounting term, but that it could sometimes be stamped and simply mean “finished” or “terminated” instead of “paid in full.” Does anybody know anything of this? I tried explaining the fourth cup idea, and I had the “it doesn’t mean ‘it is finished’ it means ‘paid in full’” statement tossed at me.

 

[Nathan_Wagar]

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[thistle]

I get the “telestai means paid in full” argument tossed at me a lot. Now correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t this word have multiple meanings in the Greek determined by context? I had heard somewhere that it was, yes, used as an accounting term, but that it could sometimes be stamped and simply mean “finished” or “terminated” instead of “paid in full.” Does anybody know anything of this? I tried explaining the fourth cup idea, and I had the “it doesn’t mean ‘it is finished’ it means ‘paid in full’” statement tossed at me.

munachi.com/z/goodfriday.htm

 

[Paladin007]

munachi.com/z/goodfriday.htm

Tetelestai “Τετέλεσται” in John 19:28,29 means “it is finished or paid in full (with the result that it is finished for ever), meaning that the redemptive price of Christ having been “Judged” as a “substitute” for all the sins of humanity was finished, with the result that it is finished for eternity. The grammatical structure of this Greek word is in its perfect passive indicative. The perfect tense indicates that the progress of an action has been completed, and the result of that action continues for ever.

 

[Paladin007]

Peace in Christ! I recommend www.gracealiveTV.org for further exegesis of this Word. In fact, I loved studying the book of Revelation/Apocalypse. Open the webpage, go to Google Videos, go to My DVDs, and in Keyword, write the word Prophecies. Starts slow, but it turns dynamite later on. Enjoy

 

[Catholic_Dude]

I get the “telestai means paid in full” argument tossed at me a lot. Now correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t this word have multiple meanings in the Greek determined by context? I had heard somewhere that it was, yes, used as an accounting term, but that it could sometimes be stamped and simply mean “finished” or “terminated” instead of “paid in full.” Does anybody know anything of this? I tried explaining the fourth cup idea, and I had the “it doesn’t mean ‘it is finished’ it means ‘paid in full’” statement tossed at me.

The simple answer is, the Greek word here for “finished” is never used to mean “paid in full” in the 26 verses it is used in the Bible.

Here is a post on that: “What did Jesus Mean by It is finished?”

catholicnick.blogspot.com/2013/03/what-did-jesus-mean-by-it-is-finished.html

 

[Mintaka]

As that blogpost says, there’s a reason why that line used to be translated, “It is consummated.”

This translated the idea of “completion” and “fulfilment.”

(Although of course it also could add the idea of the marriage of Jesus with His Bride, the Church. And a lot of people had fun with that one.)