Tell me your theories about the Antichrist.

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I was amused by how many different ideas and speculations people have about this mythical figure (the Antichrist) in the history of the world.
 
I’ll tell you a little secret…

…I am the Antichrist. :cool:

Actually no. I don’t really have a theory on this, although I’m also with the “little Antichrists” and “spirit of the Antichrist” that the apostle John writes on.

Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. [1 John 2:22]

And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. [1 John 4:3]

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. [2 John 1:7]

Harsh words regarding opinion on Christ’s deity and humanity that is very rare to hear in the Christian church these days.
 
I believe there are many Antichrists, however I also believe there is the Antichrist, which is the son of perdition. I believe he is going to be a very powerful politic, which is going to bring temporal peace, and he is going to reject Jesus, and is going to call himself god, and will sit in the temple of Jerusalem.

BTW this link is interesting.

God bless.
 
Byzantine_Wolf said:
I’ll tell you a little secret…

…I am the Antichrist. :cool:

Actually no. I don’t really have a theory on this, although I’m also with the “little Antichrists” and “spirit of the Antichrist” that the apostle John writes on.

Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. [1 John 2:22]

And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. [1 John 4:3]

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. [2 John 1:7]

Harsh words regarding opinion on Christ’s deity and humanity that is very rare to hear in the Christian church these days.
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I also base my understanding of the Antichrist issue on St. John’s Gospels 1,2,3.
 
"Tell me your theories about the Antichrist."

Is there a strict separation of church and state on CAF? Because I could name a few in Washington DC that I think fit the hype.
 
Does the antichrist have to be a person? Can it be an idea such as hate, the antithesis of Christ? Of course evil does exist; and if there were people who closest captured the evil they woudl have to be Hitler and Stalin. That said I don’t think there can be any evil that can match the power and love of Christ.

-Mike
 
I tend to agree with Mr. Walid Shoebat’s conclusion of who or what the Antichrist is.
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Is there a strict separation of church and state on CAF? Because I could name a few in Washington DC that I think fit the hype.
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YES! Just yes! :rotfl:
 
Wesley7 said:
I was amused by how many different ideas and speculations people have about this mythical figure (the Antichrist) in the history of the world.
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two to my knowledge. and they have already passed. antiochus epiphenus, who was prophesied in daniel. you can read his story in macabees. nero who was written about in revelation, who is also dead. i simply think we are waiting now for a time of trouble that has never before been seen, and never again will be. it can happen at any time. and does not necessarily have to be 7 years in duration. could their be a future figure who dominates the globe? possibly, though i doubt it. there are a couple of events that i could see trigger this time of jacobs trouble, but i wont get into them here. not Church dogma, just my thoughts. Peace 🙂
 
benidict said:
… i simply think we are waiting now for a time of trouble that has never before been seen, and never again will be. it can happen at any time. and does not necessarily have to be 7 years in duration. could their be a future figure who dominates the globe? possibly, though i doubt it. there are a couple of events that i could see trigger this time of jacobs trouble,…
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You make a lot of sense, really.
 
We each, go to God alone.

The archangel Lucifer was the first “anti God the Father”. Our anti Christs’ comes in all shapes, sizes, and forms.

Each of us, as individuals, by the graces we receive and accept, are able to battle off the antichrists in our lives.
 
P.S. The antiChrist is not mythical.

Do you have a Creed in your church?

Something which states the beliefs of your church?

A “We believe…” statement?

“…all things, seen and unseen…”
 
Sorry.

:o

I just realized this question came from a forum that might not understand the Catholic background and the Nicene Creed. Our Creed is an ancient prayer that uses and enhances the Apostles’ Creed

In the year 325, the Council of Nicaea, wrote the initial creed and then it was finalized 56 years later at the Council of Constantinople.

We recite this Creed at every Mass:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended in heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets.

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.

Amen.
 
Ultimately the Antichrist that I assume you are speaking of will take away the body and blood of Christ in communion and replace it with a symbol. The sin here is to take the name of God upon a vein thing. Which by the way is the only unforgiveable sin. The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
 
I have it on great authority ( a local nun) that Obama is NOT the anti-Christ.

So we can relax. 😉
 
benidict said:
two to my knowledge. and they have already passed. antiochus epiphenus, who was prophesied in daniel. you can read his story in macabees. nero who was written about in revelation, who is also dead. i simply think we are waiting now for a time of trouble that has never before been seen, and never again will be. it can happen at any time. and does not necessarily have to be 7 years in duration. could their be a future figure who dominates the globe? possibly, though i doubt it. there are a couple of events that i could see trigger this time of jacobs trouble, but i wont get into them here. not Church dogma, just my thoughts. Peace 🙂
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I agree with Benedict, here, and would go a bit farther. Some of you seem to find the idea of an anti Christ amusing, but I believe that the Holy Spirit had a reason for giving us warnings about this----that it is an idea, a belief and that it all will tie into one being. I doubt that the Holy Spirit gave us these warnings as joke.

I have a hard time seeing how a mere man could be the anti–Christ. There are traditions, legends if you will, that say that at one time fallen angels walked this world. They intermarried with people, and one of the words for the offspring was Nephilim. Jude indicates that these angels that left their natural place for this world are confined in a pit—a dark void. Revelation mentions a pit opening, and an angel named Abaddon coming out of it (and this isn’t Satan).

What would it be like to have a fallen angel walk this world again? The knowledge, the power–both physical and mental that they would have compared to us would sure make one of these creatures something like a god. And they sure would be ‘anti-Christ’, and would be out to destroy the Christian church. I could see the world following somebody like that. Somebody that could get rid of those who have absolute beliefs; while promising and delivering miracles that no man could do.

Who knows—but time will tell. Remember, often the understanding of a prophecy occurs after the prophecy is fulfilled.
 
According to Saint John, who alone uses the term, an antichrist is a person; not an “idea” or an abstraction. He also said there would be many antichrists.

ICXC NIKA
 
loneviking said:
I agree with Benedict, here, and would go a bit farther. Some of you seem to find the idea of an anti Christ amusing, but I believe that the Holy Spirit had a reason for giving us warnings about this----that it is an idea, a belief and that it all will tie into one being. I doubt that the Holy Spirit gave us these warnings as joke.

I have a hard time seeing how a mere man could be the anti–Christ. There are traditions, legends if you will, that say that at one time fallen angels walked this world. They intermarried with people, and one of the words for the offspring was Nephilim. Jude indicates that these angels that left their natural place for this world are confined in a pit—a dark void. Revelation mentions a pit opening, and an angel named Abaddon coming out of it (and this isn’t Satan).

What would it be like to have a fallen angel walk this world again? The knowledge, the power–both physical and mental that they would have compared to us would sure make one of these creatures something like a god. And they sure would be ‘anti-Christ’, and would be out to destroy the Christian church. I could see the world following somebody like that. Somebody that could get rid of those who have absolute beliefs; while promising and delivering miracles that no man could do.

Who knows—but time will tell. Remember, often the understanding of a prophecy occurs after the prophecy is fulfilled.
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you said it loneviking. i believe in isaiah, it prophecies i will call my children from ethiopia, on the wings of eagles i will carry them to my promised land. completely paraphrased on my part. it could also be one of the other prophets. but what happened under the first George Bush. Ethiopian Jews were airlifted on American planes to Israel. i remember reading this prophecy a couple years before this happened. could mean something else, but it sure struck me as amazing watching this happen. it recieve a blurb in the papers, and the Churches were silent. i think more happens than we know. and it is only seen with close observation. that would be a good candidate. a fallen angel walking the earth again? who better to fullfill the role, if there is a future antichrist, or psuedo Christ as it can also be translated. Peace 🙂
 
John in Revelations 13:18 write:

(Douay-Rheims Bible)
Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.

In John’s Gospel, 6:66 reads:

(Douay-Rheims Bible)
After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.

So is the anti-Christ the one marked with 666? In John’s Gospel, 6:66 refers to followers of Christ who left Him after they refused to accept the teaching about the Eucharist. They cannot accept the fact that they would need to eat His flesh and drink His blood to gain eternal life. So is the anti-Christ people who claim to be followers of Christ but refuse the Real Presence in the Eucharist?
 
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