Tell my exactly WHY Cardinal Dolan would be a good Pope.

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Title says it…

I don’t know too much about him…I admit.
So, I’d like to hear your opinions and would love to read the facts about this man.

Is he cut of the same cloth as say…Archbishop Chaput?

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The chances of Card. Dolan becoming Pope is basically nil. See the other thread about this.
 
Uh…yeah. I started this not to derail the other thread.
2 different focuses.
 
Ah. Carry on then.

Does Card. Dolan have a fluent grasp of Italian and Latin?
 
I don’t think that he or any other American for that matter has much of a chance of even being considered let alone elected…
 
I do not think that Cardinal Dolan has any chance of becoming Pope at the conclave next month. The reasons are quite simple: There is almost an unwritten rule that the pope will not come from the reigning superpower. That would mean America would have, almost, two representations on the world stage - two states run by an American, not to mention the world’s largest religion led by someone from the world’s only superpower. It seems somewhat problematic.

Secondly, Cardinal Dolan is not a polyglot. Multiple languages are usually sought after in a papabile. He cannot, as far as I am aware, speak Italian which would seem to be something of a prerequisite given that the pope does, after all, have to live in the capital city of the Italian state.

There are other reasons two but that will suffice for the moment. I honestly think that he has “nil poi” chance of being elected pope. We should be looking eleswhere IMHO.
 
I see many people are saying that he does not speak Italian. I’ve read some of his books and he speaks about his years in Italy… from 1994-2001, Dolan held the office of Rector of the Pontifical North American College in Rome, and he earned his STL degree from the same in the 70s. I bet you he speaks Italian quite well.
 
I think Americans are the second largest voting block behind the Italians. While no American will probally get elected they will certainly have a large influence on who does get elected.
 
A Pope would need to be fluent in at least 4 or more languages, and generally would be much more highly educated than most of our American bishops.

Pope John Paul was fluent in 7 languages, and could get by in a few more. I’m sure Pope Benedict is also multi-lingual.
 
mfrances said:
I see many people are saying that he does not speak Italian. I’ve read some of his books and he speaks about his years in Italy… from 1994-2001, Dolan held the office of Rector of the Pontifical North American College in Rome, and he earned his STL degree from the same in the 70s. I bet you he speaks Italian quite well.
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Cardinal Dolan doesn’t speak Italian very well. Here’s a quote from his talk to Pope Benedict and the College of Cardinals last year:
“Thank you, Holy Father and brethren, for your patience with my primitive Italian. When Cardinal Bertone asked me to give this address in Italian, I worried, because I speak Italian like a child."
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Cardinal Dolan
 
Let us compare Cardinal Dolan’s in terms of multiple language skills, which are actually very important for an effective papacy, with one of the candidates considered papabile by some analysts and the press, Cardinal Peter Turkson:
His Eminence Cardinal Peter K.A. Turkson speaks fluent Fante, English, French, Italian, German, Hebrew.
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Do you get what I’m saying? 🤷

I’m not being swotty or anything. Dolan is a great, charismatic, fun-loving, friendly and likeable indivdual. I just don’t see him as “pope material”.
 
Actually, what is needed for a pope is that he be an effective conduit of the Holy Spirit. One language or 10; PhD’s or their equivalent, or not; vast experience in diplomacy, or not; or any of a number of other aspects that could be brought up are mere secondary issues.
 
otjm said:
Actually, what is needed for a pope is that he be an effective conduit of the Holy Spirit. One language or 10; PhD’s or their equivalent, or not; vast experience in diplomacy, or not; or any of a number of other aspects that could be brought up are mere secondary issues.
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I don’t deny this but we have to think in practical even political terms too. Multiple languages seem to be a stapple qualification in this respect.
 
Vouthon said:
I don’t deny this but we have to think in practical even political terms too. Multiple languages seem to be a stapple qualification in this respect.
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I don’t mean to say there are not things that would be seriously considered. However, after Pope JP 1 died, a signficant part of the world (and the Catholic world) seemed truly amazed that a non-Italian was chosen.

Then it happened again…

It is just that things which people assign as “necessary” or even “undisputable” can turn out to be not so.
 
This will be short because I don’t think he would be very good at all. He sort of “soured me” on the Al Smith dinner invite to Obama. I think he showed his true colors then.
 
corsair said:
This will be short because I don’t think he would be very good at all. He sort of “soured me” on the Al Smith dinner invite to Obama. I think he showed his true colors then.
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In his defense, I would call that diplomacy.

As long as he’s supportive of the Latin Mass and encourages the study of Latin, he’s good enough for me. 😉
 
I think Cardinal Dolan apes a lot, acting out in his episcopal robes. His sparkling personality limits his chances for advancement.
 
I’ve met Cardinal Dolan many times, and I just think he’s wonderful - not afraid to speak the truth, kind, intelligent, energetic, and traditional. I’d love to see him as pope, but the Holy Spirit may have other plans!😉
 
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