Telling parents about having SSA

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I’m sorry, but I fail to see a reason to tell your parents about your temptations. If you become a priest, it shouldn’t be an issue, because you won’t be expected to get married.

If you don’t become a priest, and you meet a woman that you would consider marrying, you would need to tell her, so she would know what she’s getting into.

It is no one else’s business, except for the priest who is hearing confessions.

If you experienced a temptation to steal something from a store, would you tell your parents? I doubt it,
 
I’m sorry, but I fail to see a reason to tell your parents about your temptations. If you become a priest, it shouldn’t be an issue, because you won’t be expected to get married.

If you don’t become a priest, and you meet a woman that you would consider marrying, you would need to tell her, so she would know what she’s getting into.

It is no one else’s business, except for the priest who is hearing confessions.

If you experienced a temptation to steal something from a store, would you tell your parents? I doubt it,
At the risk of sounding repetitive: the situation of having SSA is not and must not be reduced to “temptations”, and it’s not like I am going to sit down with them and talk for 30 minutes about my sexual temptations. Lol. That would be absurd. As I mentioned in a previous post, there is more to having SSA than the “temptation” part.
 
I believe you should keep things such as that inside yourself and struggle with it, your parents don’t have to know it, it will just change their opinion of you, they will always view and look at you differently, i would not be ready for that. Well i am telling this probably because my parents are different than yours, but still.

Heterosexual people find their opposite sex partners and have sex with them outside the marriage, that is also a big sin and not much worse than homosexual debauchery. Both types of sex are forbidden, SSA People are not guilty because they are attracted to same gender. This SSA thing could be your blessing, you will be much more aware of sexual act sin and you will avoid it, because it looks much more wrong than heterosexual sex act. While heterosexuals, including those inside the Church are careless, they often think that what they have with their opposite gender partner is “love” and that God is fine with that and that God will forgive them. Maybe…

SSA is your cross, make sure you carry it .
 
Heterosexual people find their opposite sex partners and have sex with them outside the marriage, that is also a big sin and not much worse than homosexual debauchery. Both types of sex are forbidden, SSA People are not guilty because they are attracted to same gender. This SSA thing could be your blessing, you will be much more aware of sexual act sin and you will avoid it, because it looks much more wrong than heterosexual sex act. While heterosexuals, including those inside the Church are careless, they often think that what they have with their opposite gender partner is “love” and that God is fine with that and that God will forgive them. Maybe…

SSA is your cross, make sure you carry it .
To be perfectly honest, I think any parent would be terribly confused with the term “SSA.” Why not just tell the parent that the person might be homosexual? How would that not be simpler and less confusing?

If someone is attracted to same sex people, the term for that is homosexual. If I were a parent, I would want the issue simplified for me in the simplest manner possible. The term “SSA” – which is ostensibly a pastoral term nobody uses outside of CAF (particularly no doctors, no therapists, and no priests or pastors I know) – has really muddied the waters.
 
Why write them out of the story? Why predict the outcome? He trusts his parents enough to want to tell them, don’t take that away.
The outcome for “SSA” seems to be that they eventually become “ex-gay” and were never homosexual to begin with. In that respect, I would imagine a warm-and-fuzzy term like “SSA” might be comforting to a lot of parents. However, it is a pastoral term - not a medical term - that still causes considerable confusion. Why not just use the term gay or homosexual? :confused:
 
I don’t believe marriage (to a woman obviously) is an impossibility for me.
If there’s a possibility you might be homosexual – setting aside the term “SSA” to get directly to the point – I’m not entirely certain marriage would help you get to “ex-gay.”

In all likelihood, you might not have ever been gay to begin with.
 
To be perfectly honest, I think any parent would be terribly confused with the term “SSA.” Why not just tell the parent that the person might be homosexual? How would that not be simpler and less confusing?

If someone is attracted to same sex people, the term for that is homosexual. If I were a parent, I would want the issue simplified for me in the simplest manner possible. The term “SSA” – which is ostensibly a pastoral term nobody uses outside of CAF (particularly no doctors, no therapists, and no priests or pastors I know) – has really muddied the waters.
Homosexual would seem to mean exclusively attracted to one’s own sex. That doesn’t seem to be the OP’s situation.

If anything, bisexual would be closer to conventional terminology, but it has some baggage because it does (perhaps unfairly) suggest a person that has trouble with monogamy. “Bisexual” has somewhat sleazy connotations, even just in the mainstream world.

Same sex attracted is a good and useful term because it describes what is there (attraction to one’s own sex) without necessarily excluding the possibility of attraction to the opposite sex.

OP, did I get that right?

Oh, and further muddying the water, it’s not at all unusual for women to experience some degree of same sex attraction.
 
If there’s a possibility you might be homosexual – setting aside the term “SSA” to get directly to the point – I’m not entirely certain marriage would help you get to “ex-gay.”

In all likelihood, you might not have ever been gay to begin with.
Do you really think the OP is trying to get to “ex-gay”?

That wasn’t at all the impression I got from his postings.

I may be mistaken, but I believe you are the only person on this thread who has used the term “ex-gay”.
 
As a “mature” woman staring at 70, I have an important question to ask you, BobAllen. You have stated that you are committed to the teachings of God as your personal value system and are a faithful Catholic. You have never participated in disordered sexual behavior. You have no plans to do so in the future. Why, then, burden your parents with information about your sexual attraction issue? It is really puzzling to me. I don’t understand your need to share this with them at all. In all sincerity, unless your parents are therapists, why would you be telling them? I will pray that you are able to carry your cross. May the Lord be with you.
I disagree.

At least informing them will cut out the “When are you going to get married and give me grandchildren?” question.

Honestly, if I were a parent and I learned that my son had SSA and his friends and other family members have known it all along except me, I would be very hurt. Why didn’t he confide in me?
 
To be perfectly honest, I think any parent would be terribly confused with the term “SSA.” Why not just tell the parent that the person might be homosexual? How would that not be simpler and less confusing?

If someone is attracted to same sex people, the term for that is homosexual. If I were a parent, I would want the issue simplified for me in the simplest manner possible. The term “SSA” – which is ostensibly a pastoral term nobody uses outside of CAF (particularly no doctors, no therapists, and no priests or pastors I know) – has really muddied the waters.
I really don’t want to make this thread about how one should “identify” oneself. Personally, I don’t and will never identify as “homosexual” (or “bisexual” for that matter) or “gay”, and frankly, I don’t think any faithful Catholic with a correct understanding of sexuality should do so. I can understand why one might want to describe themselves as “gay” or “homosexual”, and that on the face of it, it only describes one’s general experiences in terms of attraction and doesn’t necessarily “identify” themselves as intrinsically “gay” or “homosexual”. However, I still disagree with the language for reasons I’m not going to get into. Further, I realize that, though the Church has never used “gay” in an official document, they have used “homosexual”, and frankly, I don’t agree with that either, but they did not use it in a way which attempted to “define” or “identify” a person. Anyway, that’s as far as I’d like to get into that on here - any further debate you have with me on the topic you may feel free to PM me about - I’m not going to publicly respond to this particular subject again on this thread.

Regarding your second comment, well, both my therapist and my priest do use the term “SSA”. Lol. They, as I do, refuse to give into the secular language which promotes an inadequate understanding of sexuality.
 
I really don’t want to make this thread about how one should “identify” oneself. Personally, I don’t and will never identify as “homosexual” or “gay”, and frankly, I don’t think any faithful Catholic with a correct understanding of sexuality should do so. I can understand why one might want to describe themselves as “gay” or “homosexual”, and that on the face of it, it only describes one’s general experiences in terms of attraction and doesn’t necessarily “identify” themselves as intrinsically “gay” or “homosexual”. However, I still disagree with the language for reasons I’m not going to get into. Further, I realize that, though the Church has never used “gay” in an official document, they have used “homosexual”, and frankly, I don’t agree with that either, but they did not use it in a way which attempted to “define” or “identify” a person. Anyway, that’s as far as I’d like to get into that on here - any further debate you have with me on the topic you may feel free to PM me about - I’m not going to publicly respond to this particular subject again on this thread.

Regarding your second comment, well, both my therapist and my priest do use the term “SSA”. Lol. They, as I do, refuse to give into the secular language which promotes an inadequate understanding of sexuality.
So why is it important for you to get into this NOW at this point in time with your parents??
I’m just curious. Not saying it’s a bad time, or too late, or anything…just wondering.
Does it have anything to do with the advice of the vocations director?
 
I think that if the OP’s parents were to read this thread they would be more confused than ever. And since he has said that marriage to a woman is not necessarily an impossibility for him, why even bring it up? His parents are not therapists and need not be burdened with even more confusion.
 
So why is it important for you to get into this NOW at this point in time with your parents??
I’m just curious. Not saying it’s a bad time, or too late, or anything…just wondering.
Does it have anything to do with the advice of the vocations director?
I believe the OP mentioned that his therapist recommended disclosure to parents.
 
To be perfectly honest, I think any parent would be terribly confused with the term “SSA.” Why not just tell the parent that the person might be homosexual? How would that not be simpler and less confusing?

If someone is attracted to same sex people, the term for that is homosexual. If I were a parent, I would want the issue simplified for me in the simplest manner possible. The term “SSA” – which is ostensibly a pastoral term nobody uses outside of CAF (particularly no doctors, no therapists, and no priests or pastors I know) – has really muddied the waters.
Actually, not true at all. the word “homosexuality” has really muddied the waters. It is a word that was invented this last century to normalize the disorder and behavior.

the root “homo” means same. “sexual” means difference.
“Homosexual” — same difference
heterosexual-- different different.

It makes no sense. The labeling of it as some sort of state, some sort of “orientation” is the problem. It is also degrading to human beings, being reduced to something less than they are-- a man or a woman. We all have desires, proclivities, ordered and disordered attractions to one thing or another. We should not be reduced to “being” that though.

A person that struggles with same sex attraction is the correct and most charitable way of putting it.
 
Homosexual would seem to mean exclusively attracted to one’s own sex. That doesn’t seem to be the OP’s situation.

If anything, bisexual would be closer to conventional terminology, but it has some baggage because it does (perhaps unfairly) suggest a person that has trouble with monogamy. “Bisexual” has somewhat sleazy connotations, even just in the mainstream world.

Same sex attracted is a good and useful term because it describes what is there (attraction to one’s own sex) without necessarily excluding the possibility of attraction to the opposite sex.

OP, did I get that right?

Oh, and further muddying the water, it’s not at all unusual for women to experience some degree of same sex attraction.
Well, I currently experience nearly exclusive attraction to the same sex, so if I were to use conventional terminology, I would be “homosexual” and not “bisexual”.

You’re right that the terms do have some baggage, due to their use in secular terminology, and that actually is one reason why I don’t want to use them - if anything, that would be more shocking for my parents to use those terms, not less shocking as randomuser is suggesting, for that reason. My biggest beef with LGBT terms and the whole heterosexual/homosexual thing, though, is that I believe it promotes understandings of sexuality which go against the reality, which is that God made all men and women complementary, and that even if a man (or woman) experiences SSA, he (or she) is still obviously essentially male and is experiencing his (or her) sexuality as a disordered from how God designed it to be.

I’m bad at explaining it but that’s generally what I think. I should probably not say anymore about that.

Regarding your last comment about women - certainly, women experience their sexuality a bit different from men, and I’m not surprised that you said that - actually my best female friend told me the same thing after I told her I struggle with SSA. Anyway, while obviously to whom one is sexually attracted can have a number of different effects which have to be addressed accordingly; nonetheless, one is still either a man or woman created for complimentarity by God. The man who experiences same-sex attraction is not essentially different from any other man; vice versa for women. They may have different experiences amongst each other, but that does not change reality of what sexuality is and for what it was created by God.
 
At the risk of sounding repetitive: the situation of having SSA is not and must not be reduced to “temptations”, and it’s not like I am going to sit down with them and talk for 30 minutes about my sexual temptations. Lol. That would be absurd. As I mentioned in a previous post, there is more to having SSA than the “temptation” part.
I think you are describing what I meant by including “the flip side”…that is, the aspects of what you are saying about yourself that have nothing to do with seeing persons of your own sex as sexual partners.

You have to realize, however, that the experience of one’s sexuality is different for everyone. Some people cannot look at anybody who has reached the age of sexual maturity without the awareness of their sexual perception of the person. I don’t mean they’re mentally undressing them, but that they’re aware of the person as a sexual being. They always interact with others with a recognition of the part of the person’s inner life that has to do with sexuality. Other people can literally have someone of the opposite sex coming on to them like nobody’s business and yet be totally oblivious to it. They just don’t think in sexual terms about anybody very often, and perhaps never. Still others cease to be comfortable around other people precisely at that point that they become aware of the possibility that their relationship might have even the slightest sexual aspect to it. There is that whole continuum and it will vary even with one person depending on health, level of distraction, level of security or insecurity, sexual appetite, emotional or sentimental triggers, and all sorts of other things.

I think there are a good many people into LGBTQ activism who are in the group who believe that sexual attractions necessarily color everything that everyone does, says, and means to each other. This is why some of them feel a need to disclose to people who would rather not be confronted with the inner life of most people they know about anything they themselves choose to keep private, with the sexual inner life being number one on the list but hardly the only thing on the list.

The question I have for you is this: Where do you think your parents belong on that continuum? If they are in the keep-your-private-life-private part of the continuum, there might not be much in the way of support nor edification that can realistically be expected by telling them about this aspect of your inner life.

Still, they could surprise you. For instance, your father or mother may be just like you. You can’t know if you don’t tell them. You can’t un-tell them, once you tell them. You can’t truly know your situation. I would say to do your best to come to a conclusion about this that you can, realizing that this is not information that anyone has a right to, excepting a potential spouse or a bishop you are asking for ordination. Other than that, I think that you will ride out any decisions that you regret, whether it is to tell or not to tell, because you sound as if you have a good head on your shoulders and a strong relationship with God. With those two things, you will walk away somehow from every landing, no matter how rough it is.

I’d also ask you to consider whether your best bet, should you decide you want to tell at least one of them, might be to talk to just one of them first, sounding them out about whether to tell the other and how to do it. That, again, is something you would consider in light of your unique relationship with each of your parents. The advantage to this approach is that the parent you tell can listen to you and talk to you without the immediate distraction of gauging or worrying about your *other *parent’s concurrent reaction. One-on-one disclosure does have that advantage in intimacy and the ability of both parties to feel control over the situation.
 
I think you are describing what I meant by including “the flip side”…that is, the aspects of what you are saying about yourself that have nothing to do with seeing persons of your own sex as sexual partners.

You have to realize, however, that the experience of one’s sexuality is different for everyone. Some people cannot look at anybody who has reached the age of sexual maturity without the awareness of their sexual perception of the person. I don’t mean they’re mentally undressing them, but that they’re aware of the person as a sexual being. They always interact with others with a recognition of the part of the person’s inner life that has to do with sexuality. Other people can literally have someone of the opposite sex coming on to them like nobody’s business and yet be totally oblivious to it. They just don’t think in sexual terms about anybody very often, and perhaps never. Still others cease to be comfortable around other people precisely at that point that they become aware of the possibility that their relationship might have even the slightest sexual aspect to it. There is that whole continuum and it will vary even with one person depending on health, level of distraction, level of security or insecurity, sexual appetite, emotional or sentimental triggers, and all sorts of other things.

I think there are a good many people into LGBTQ activism who are in the group who believe that sexual attractions necessarily color everything that everyone does, says, and means to each other. This is why some of them feel a need to disclose to people who would rather not be confronted with the inner life of most people they know about anything they themselves choose to keep private, with the sexual inner life being number one on the list but hardly the only thing on the list.

The question I have for you is this: Where do you think your parents belong on that continuum? If they are in the keep-your-private-life-private part of the continuum, there might not be much in the way of support nor edification that can realistically be expected by telling them about this aspect of your inner life.

Still, they could surprise you. For instance, your father or mother may be just like you. You can’t know if you don’t tell them. You can’t un-tell them, once you tell them. You can’t truly know your situation. I would say to do your best to come to a conclusion about this that you can, realizing that this is not information that anyone has a right to, excepting a potential spouse or a bishop you are asking for ordination. Other than that, I think that you will ride out any decisions that you regret, whether it is to tell or not to tell, because you sound as if you have a good head on your shoulders and a strong relationship with God. With those two things, you will walk away somehow from every landing, no matter how rough it is.
Thank you for this post - a lot of good points there! You’re right that there are certainly aspects of my inner life which are not in any way related to having SSA. There are a few things, though, that even though by themselves they don’t exactly have anything to do with having SSA, they exist because of my having SSA, i.e. they developed through certain aspects about having it.

Regarding your question: well, that definitely is something I have been trying to consider/ask myself. I don’t really have an answer - I only have my suspicions regarding where they would fall on this “continuum” of which you speak. I think regardless, there are a two thoughts which I am probably going to be following:
  1. I don’t plan on spilling out my whole experience with having SSA. I think I mentioned elsewhere in the thread that I’ll be saying just a few things initially, and the discussion after those few basic points I want to make will rely heavily on their reaction to those things.
  2. I think that even if they are 100% on the “keep-your-private-life-private” end of this continuum, there will still be benefits for all of us by my telling them at least the basic points I’m wanting to say. Even if they are 100% like that, I don’t believe that our relationship will take a hit, though obviously I can’t know that for certain. I’m thinking that the worst that will happen is that they will just not want to know any more than the basics I told them; I don’t think they will be dismissive of my struggles or rejecting in any way.
I’m obviously hoping for something more, but regardless, I have come to the conclusion that in the long run it will be better for me to do this, regardless of how much I am able to say initially.

Edited to reply to your added last paragraph - thank you for that suggestion. I have considered the possibility of speaking with one of them individually first, and I will further consider it.
 
As a mom, I would be filled with pride and sadness. I would probably cry, because I would feel sad about the sufferings that you had, and will probably endure. I would be filled with pride (for lack of a better word) that you are showing such strong and wonderful character traits, in your ability to speak something so difficult, and in your commitment to follow the church’s teachings on sex. I would be thankful that you told me, and appreciative that you are willing to be that close with me. I don’t know you personally, but it’s possible that as your mom, I might not be shocked. Sometimes parents know more than you think - they have observed you from the beginning, after all. I would want to offer you my help - advice, spiritual support, assistance in getting you connected to courage, or another form of support. Most of all, I would want to reassure you that I loved you dearly, and that I hoped that you would continue to come to me with important things and consider me someone worth confiding in.

I would want to do this perfectly, so that you came away from our conversation feeling relieved, loved, and supported. But family interactions being what they are (especially when being surprised by big news), I might come away from the conversation feeling like I said too much or too little, or was too clumsy in my response. My guess is that my husband wouldn’t speak his support as eloquently or lovingly, even though he would also still love you dearly, just because his personality handles such things differently. I would try to be forgiving of whatever clumsiness came from you as a result of your being really nervous about the conversation, and I would hope that you would be forgiving of my and your dad’s clumsy reactions too, understanding that when put on the spot, we don’t always speak perfectly.

I think there is a good point about not turning this into a Christmas memory and waiting a few weeks, but maybe that is easier said than done if you don’t see each other often? I will pray for you for your discussion, whenever it happens, to go well, and especially for you in general.
 
Thank you for this post - a lot of good points there! You’re right that there are certainly aspects of my inner life which are not in any way related to having SSA. There are a few things, though, that even though by themselves they don’t exactly have anything to do with having SSA, they exist because of my having SSA, i.e. they developed through certain aspects about having it.

Regarding your question: well, that definitely is something I have been trying to consider/ask myself. I don’t really have an answer - I only have my suspicions regarding where they would fall on this “continuum” of which you speak. I think regardless, there are a two thoughts which I am probably going to be following:
  1. I don’t plan on spilling out my whole experience with having SSA. I think I mentioned elsewhere in the thread that I’ll be saying just a few things initially, and the discussion after those few basic points I want to make will rely heavily on their reaction to those things.
  2. I think that even if they are 100% on the “keep-your-private-life-private” end of this continuum, there will still be benefits for all of us by my telling them at least the basic points I’m wanting to say. Even if they are 100% like that, I don’t believe that our relationship will take a hit, though obviously I can’t know that for certain. I’m thinking that the worst that will happen is that they will just not want to know any more than the basics I told them; I don’t think they will be dismissive of my struggles or rejecting in any way.
I’m obviously hoping for something more, but regardless, I have come to the conclusion that in the long run it will be better for me to do this, regardless of how much I am able to say initially.

Edited to reply to your added last paragraph - thank you for that suggestion. I have considered the possibility of speaking with one of them individually first, and I will further consider it.
I would add one more point. I have a friend in the priesthood who, after a very drawn-out period of discernment, asked the Church for laicization and intends to ask for permission to marry. At first, he was disappointed at some of the reactions he got to this news. He later realized, however, that he arrived at acceptance of his reality only after a long process, a process that he kept private from the most of the people hearing the news later. The people who were having their view of his reality altered likewise needed to be expected to go through a process of accepting what he had already come to take for granted.

When you tell your parents whatever you tell them, realize that their first reaction is only the first step of a process they will go through as they reconcile their past inner “picture” of you with this more recent “picture.” To some extent, it may involve grieving for a version of you that not only does not exist now but never did exist. If this turns out to be a big surprise (and it may be no surprise at all, by the way), then it could lead to a questioning of their ability to perceive and come to know others. That is all a process they will go through. Allow them some missteps, allow them room to grow, allow them time to process what you tell them, allow them time to reconcile it with their past world view. The process may go fast or it may go slowly, but I think you’ll be under less stress if you go in expecting a process that comes out fine in the end but that is not without a few dramatic moments. Keep in prayer, keep your head on your shoulders, and you’ll walk away from the landing! 👍
 
I would add one more point. I have a friend in the priesthood who, after a very drawn-out period of discernment, asked the Church for laicization and intends to ask for permission to marry. At first, he was disappointed at some of the reactions he got to this news. He later realized, however, that he arrived at acceptance of his reality only after a long process, a process that he kept private from the most of the people hearing the news later. The people who were having their view of his reality altered likewise needed to be expected to go through a process of accepting what he had already come to take for granted.

When you tell your parents whatever you tell them, realize that their first reaction is only the first step of a process they will go through as they reconcile their past inner “picture” of you with this more recent “picture.” To some extent, it may involve grieving for a version of you that not only does not exist now but never did exist. If this turns out to be a big surprise (and it may be no surprise at all, by the way), then it could lead to a questioning of their ability to perceive and come to know others. That is all a process they will go through. Allow them some missteps, allow them room to grow, allow them time to process what you tell them, allow them time to reconcile it with their past world view. The process may go fast or it may go slowly, but I think you’ll be under less stress if you go in expecting a process that comes out fine in the end but that is not without a few dramatic moments. Keep in prayer, keep your head on your shoulders, and you’ll walk away from the landing! 👍
Thank you so much for your advice! Absolutely, I am not assuming everything will be all peachy fine…haha. After all, for me, it is a very, I don’t know, emotional? issue which has really affected my life, and I suspect part of that, if not a lot of it, will transfer to my parents. I have confidence, though, that through the grace of God, I can work this out with my parents. Not that I’m relishing the thought that there might be some painful moments on both sides…lol, far from it - but I am operating under the idea that with growth comes pain, and so that growing in relationships and in virtue is often a painful process, so in that sense, I’m glad to accept whatever pain there might be. You mentioned that you think I have a strong head on my shoulders (haha) - well, (aside from God that is,) I have my parents to thank for that; I would say they do too, and that they are loving parents that want to grow in their relationship with their children. I really see this as an opportunity for growth in our relationship. I want to grow overall in my interpersonal relationships, and I want to offer the first opportunity for my growth in this area to my parents. 🙂
 
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