Temptation to infidelity

[AdamP88]

No, not at all! You discerned well. However, if you would have chosen to marry, then I don’t think you are justified to “throw in the towel” and say “I just don’t deserve this, I can’t help this person. I’m looking for a more loving spouse”

But if there was a reason for you to think the marriage might be invalid then would I be wrong to seek an annulment in that situation.

 

[Xantippe]

Yes, I agree with you. But if the marriage went to the tribunal and was not declared invalid, one should act as though it is valid.

Why did your friend remarry? Is he Christian? Was it a Sacramental marriage? If so, why was he allowed to remarry?

Very true, sometimes the mentally ill person is separating, physically abusing, committing adultery over and over.

But sometimes a spouse tries to have conjugal relations after making mistakes, and is denied for long periods (a whole year) and does nothing to help their spouse get help. It’s not always a Saint married to a monster. There are things going on by both spouses.

As long as efforts are being made, out of love, to help and hope for a stronger marriage, then that is all someone can do.

My old friend had a very checkered past. I believe he was baptized Catholic as an adult (for the first marriage), but when I knew him he was a Catholic-curious agnostic who sometimes hung out with Anglicans. He married his second wife in a non-religious ceremony. I believe he’s back with the Anglicans now.

 

[rcwitness]

But if there was a reason for you to think the marriage might be invalid then would I be wrong to seek an annulment in that situation.

No. If you had sought counseling with your pastor and found unremorseful behavior, or something that gave you and your pastor reason to doubt the marriage was not Sacramental because of an impediment, I agree that pursuing the tribunal would be appropriate.

 

[AnneElizabeth]

Sorry, have to step in and say this thread has been sickening to read. Sorry. Yep, I read the warning in the op, and even though it doesn’t pertain to me, it’s still sickening.

Not all mental illness presents itself at a young age. You can marry someone who is healthy and years down the road they develop mental illness. Is your marriage annulable then? What does “for better or for worse” mean to you? You simply want to bail because it’s not nice for you anymore and Christ wants you to be comfortable? Christ’s love is only for the “perfect”? Marriage is only for the 'perfect"? Are eugenics being toted in a catholic online forum?

Christs love is not enough? What hope is there then for anyone? Why find hope in Christ?

 

[rcwitness]

Sorry, have to step in and say this thread has been sickening to read. Sorry. Yep, I read the warning in the op, and even though it doesn’t pertain to me, it’s still sickening.

Not all mental illness presents itself at a young age. You can marry someone who is healthy and years down the road they develop mental illness. Is your marriage annulable then? What does “for better or for worse” mean to you? You simply want to bail because it’s not nice for you anymore and Christ wants you to be comfortable? Christ’s love is only for the “perfect”? Marriage is only for the 'perfect"? Are eugenics being toted in a catholic online forum?

Christs love is not enough? What hope is there then for anyone? Why find hope in Christ?

I agree. Christ loves us unconditionally, and does not divorce us. He suffers for our reconciliation unto His death.

 

[Xantippe]

Sorry, have to step in and say this thread has been sickening to read. Sorry. Yep, I read the warning in the op, and even though it doesn’t pertain to me, it’s still sickening.

Not all mental illness presents itself at a young age. You can marry someone who is healthy and years down the road they develop mental illness. Is your marriage annulable then? What does “for better or for worse” mean to you? You simply want to bail because it’s not nice for you anymore and Christ wants you to be comfortable? Christ’s love is only for the “perfect”? Marriage is only for the 'perfect"? Are eugenics being toted in a catholic online forum?

Christs love is not enough? What hope is there then for anyone? Why find hope in Christ?

Sometimes people aren’t safe or healthy to live with, either for their spouse or their children, and they need to be loved from a safe distance.

 

[AdamP88]

Sorry, have to step in and say this thread has been sickening to read. Sorry. Yep, I read the warning in the op, and even though it doesn’t pertain to me, it’s still sickening.

Not all mental illness presents itself at a young age. You can marry someone who is healthy and years down the road they develop mental illness. Is your marriage annulable then? What does “for better or for worse” mean to you? You simply want to bail because it’s not nice for you anymore and Christ wants you to be comfortable? Christ’s love is only for the “perfect”? Marriage is only for the 'perfect"? Are eugenics being toted in a catholic online forum?

Christs love is not enough? What hope is there then for anyone? Why find hope in Christ?

I think you’re missing the point. The conversation is about marriage invalidity. If you marry someone who develops mental illness at a later time that is different from marrying someone who actually has an incapacity to give consent on the wedding day, due to their condition.

 

[pensmama87]

Sometimes people aren’t safe or healthy to live with, either for their spouse or their children, and they need to be loved from a safe distance.

Right.

I think especially if children are involved, it’s important for the well spouse to make sure that the wellbeing of the children is paramount, since the other spouse may very well be incapable of that.

 

[rcwitness]

Sometimes people aren’t safe or healthy to live with, either for their spouse or their children, and they need to be loved from a safe distance.

That doesn’t mean they are incapable of valid marriage, or healing.