Terrible distortions introduced by "hippie culture"

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Solutions? How about Detroit as an example? Mayor Bing has gone to Church leaders and told them that they can inspire and motivate people, young and old, to do what’s right.

The “marriage doesn’t work anymore” idea is part of Hippie culture, it’s part of radical feminist culture and it’s part of anarchist culture. Tearing the family apart was job one.

The core problem is not “two parents are a luxury” - two are a necessity. If everyone would just wake up and realize that there was a carefully laid out plan to destroy the family, and thereby, society in general, we will get somewhere. There are many married Christians who are supporting their families and home schooling

1960 The Pill approved by the FDA.

1967 The Pill reaches wide use. Most Americans still live on farms and rural areas.

1968 Pope Paul VI publishes Humanae Vitae and warns what will happen if artificial contraception is used, including increased promiscuity. He was right.

1970s Adult bookstores open everwhere selling graphic photos of prostitutes.
Swinger magazines appear offering immoral sexual encounters.
Strip bars and clubs open everywhere.
Abortion on demand is legalized.

1980s No-Fault divorce completes its sweep of the country.

1990s The American Civil Liberties Union wakes up one day and they are shocked - shocked - to see a Nativity in front of a public building. It’s Unconstitutional ! But they offer a deal: “OK. You can have your creche but it’s got to be surrounded by plastic reindeer and candy canes and a plastic Santa. Cause if you don’t, we’re taking you to court!”

The ACLU discovers religious monuments and paintings in other public buildings. Get 'em out or we’ll sue!

So - no one wants to be married anymore? Or marriage is a guarantee of a lifetime of misery? I don’t think so.

For black communities, when the hip-hop/rap/gangsta culture tells young black men that it’s not your responsibility if the girl gets fat - where did they get that message? Anyone?

When sex is downgraded to simple pleasure with zero responsibilty or even knowing the name of the person you had sex with - where did they get that message?

Turn on your TV, go see a Jennifer Aniston movie, or watch Knocked Up, where a young woman has sex with a guy she just met.

Have sex - just sex - and forget about it. It doesn’t mean anything except kicks. That is being heavily marketed right now, heavily marketed. Look at the latest issue of Cosmopolitan - 60 new sex secrets. What? They couldn’t stop at 5,247?

Just stop it. Turn off the media, listen to Catholic radio, read your Bible, go to Church and turn your back on the world. Do what’s right.

Peace,
Ed
Are we to believe that the moral decay of the U.S. began with the introduction of The Pill in 1960? Did the morality pendulum fail to swing even an inch in the 1920s? The 1800s? The 1700s?

The fact that marriage does not work for many couples is as new or as old as the institution of marriage itself. It hardly had its genesis in the 60s.

Oh, what’s the use? There is no discussion when one door is sealed shut. We are each entitled to an opinion. But discussion here is futile.

This is one facet of Catholicism that may lead to its partial undoing. That makes this not a forum at all, but a billboard.

One more thing: Catholic radio is a stalwart contender in the US media. It is not an exclusive service, it is persuasive and gently vociferous, just as any other electronic medium in this country today.

gen
 
“Turn your back on the world. Do what’s right.”

Where is this in the Bible?

gen
 
Exodus 23:2

“Never follow a crowd in doing wrong. When you testify in court, don’t side with the majority to pervert justice.”

The word repent means to turn away from.

Peace,
Ed
 
Exodus 23:2

“Never follow a crowd in doing wrong. When you testify in court, don’t side with the majority to pervert justice.”

The word repent means to turn away from.

Peace,
Ed
"repent |riˈpent|
verb intrans. ]
feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one’s wrongdoing or sin : the priest urged his listeners to repent | he repented of his action.
• trans. ] view or think of (an action or omission) with deep regret or remorse : Marian came to repent her hasty judgment.
• (repent oneself) archaic feel regret or penitence about : I repent me of all I did.
DERIVATIVES
repentance |riˈpentns| noun
repentant |riˈpentnt| adjective
repenter noun
ORIGIN Middle English : from Old French repentir, from re- (expressing intensive force) + pentir (based on Latin paenitere ‘cause to repent’ ).

Nowhere in the origin of this word is any mention made of turning one’s back. One can figuratively turn one’s back on a destructive behavior, but not until one concludes that said behavior is regrettable. You are jumping to conclusions and you are misinterpreting the Bible to fit your argument.

gen
 
I can’t say that I know many ‘hippies’, although I went to art school for 4 years, and spent most of my time on the commercial art side of the building. I did tend to want to generalize about the fine art side of the school as being unproductive and sometimes even offensive in the work that they do to get attention, but that was wrong. There were some who were doing very good work, even inspiring work, and they took care and exercised discipline in their craft. So I can’t honestly paint a culture with all the same brush of a stereotypical character, but look at the work that was done and judge the merits or failings of that.

I never smoked pot, not even a cigarette, and can’t comment on the effects of them either, but I know of a marriage that ended because the husband couldn’t stop himself and was consumed by using this stuff. I know of another person who was panicked over their excessive use of it, because they could not stop themselves from using it. In both of these cases the loss of control or self-discipline seemed to be the underlying problem, and has really eroded their lives.

I am not sure that there can be much more discussion until you define ‘morality’. I believe discipline plays a key role in establising moral behavior in one’s life. Who is the master over one’s desires?

Jason
 
I am someone who has extensive expirience in the drug and I guess you can say “hippy” culture. I’ve smoked more pot than bob marley as well as used a plethora of hallucingeons that have no doubt, changed the way my brain works-for better or worse, I accept it. However in my life expiriences, I’ve seen the good and bad sides of marijuana.

As for other drugs, well I’ve only seen the bad, becuase all they are is bad- with the exception of a few ppl who’ve had bad trips on acid and weird psychedelics and instantly converted to hardcore christianity as they “Found Jesus!” thru their expriences, but they are the huge exception.

Anyways, I’ve seen people ruin their lives becuase of pot, yet i’ve also seen people get great relief from it’s effects. I’ve seen over indulgent teens fail out of college, and I’ve seen old ladies with meniere’s disease find a deliverance from their pain that no other medicine could offer.

There is no effective enforcement of marijuana laws. Sure maybe it was difficult to find other drugs, but I could always find weed from the time I was 14 years old—it was easier to get than alchohol at times.

I think more money should be spent on childhood educational programs rather that police seizure-type enforcement. We need more people in our schools telling kids the potential mental dangers of marijuana use rather than cops trying to shut down a market that will never, ever go away.

In the end it’s all self-indulgence, sex- alchohol- drug use, it’s all temporary worldly pleasure that lets us forget about suffering. Altho somtimes the way we try to prevent ppl from suffering, only causes more suffering for more ppl.
 
Are we to believe that the moral decay of the U.S. began with the introduction of The Pill in 1960? Did the morality pendulum fail to swing even an inch in the 1920s? The 1800s? The 1700s?

The fact that marriage does not work for many couples is as new or as old as the institution of marriage itself. It hardly had its genesis in the 60s.

Oh, what’s the use? There is no discussion when one door is sealed shut. We are each entitled to an opinion. But discussion here is futile.

This is one facet of Catholicism that may lead to its partial undoing. That makes this not a forum at all, but a billboard.

One more thing: Catholic radio is a stalwart contender in the US media. It is not an exclusive service, it is persuasive and gently vociferous, just as any other electronic medium in this country today.

gen
Artificial contraception was invented specifically to be used on black Americans, former slaves and their descendants. Do you understand the eugenics connection here? Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was greatly admired by Hitler, because she was pushing for birth control to be used on the “human weeds” of society. Watch this movie on YouTube if you want to know the origins of birth control and Planned Parenthood’s success in eliminating black Americans. It’s in 13 parts so you can watch them one at a time. Prepare to be shocked, disgusted and horrified. It will chill you and hopefully, awaken something within you. It is spreading through black churches slowly. I pray that it doesn’t cause more racial tension - in this environment, of races pitted against each other, it just might.

youtube.com/watch?v=ASrFufnMNDg

Of course there were moral problems before the 1960’s, but when birth control spread throughout society, leading to the legalization of abortion, we were in entirely new territory for moral depravity. It’s rather chicken and egg - did our moral depravity arise before ABC and Roe v. Wade, or did those events accelerate the decline?

How can a society that kills its own children ever thrive and be successful?
 
Artificial contraception was invented specifically to be used on black Americans, former slaves and their descendants. Do you understand the eugenics connection here? Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was greatly admired by Hitler, because she was pushing for birth control to be used on the “human weeds” of society. Watch this movie on YouTube if you want to know the origins of birth control and Planned Parenthood’s success in eliminating black Americans. It’s in 13 parts so you can watch them one at a time. Prepare to be shocked, disgusted and horrified. It will chill you and hopefully, awaken something within you. It is spreading through black churches slowly. I pray that it doesn’t cause more racial tension - in this environment, of races pitted against each other, it just might.

youtube.com/watch?v=ASrFufnMNDg

Of course there were moral problems before the 1960’s, but when birth control spread throughout society, leading to the legalization of abortion, we were in entirely new territory for moral depravity. It’s rather chicken and egg - did our moral depravity arise before ABC and Roe v. Wade, or did those events accelerate the decline?

How can a society that kills its own children ever thrive and be successful?
Margaret Sanger was not an icon of the “hippie culture”, so whatever her motives for developing artificial contraception, this is not germane to the original post. Artificial birth control had long been attempted, as had abortion, before Sanger came along. She is just the most convenient contemporary target for those looking to blame the sexual behaviors of millions and millions of people. How is it that Sanger is responsible for the proactive reproductive choices made by boys and girls, men and women in 2011? Are they each lacking a moral compass and a conscience?

You have provided a link for me to absorb - 13 parts in all - and then you warn that you hope it does not cause more racial tension. Why, then, are you recommending that anyone watch it if that is an inherent danger? Baffling …

gen
 
There are a lot of different aspects to the distortions introduced by hippie culture.

The Catholic Church stopped practices such as novenas and the Holy Name Society meetings. Observance of Holy Days of Obligation has declined. And the biggest “hit” of all was the abandonment of the strict no meat on Friday abstinence rule.

Prayer, in general, is not encouraged as much as before.

So, when confronted on the one hand by easy contraception “the pill”] and on the other hand by laxer spirituality, then distortions crept in.
Just look at “Catholic Answers” … it was started by a layman, Karl Keating, in part because there was no longer a helpful apologetics or teaching function within the Church.

And certainly evangelization by the “official” clergy-run Church itself has declined.

I have even had a Cardinal complain to me about the waste of money and lack of result by the official Church in evangelization.
 
None of the post above makes sense. I was there before and after Vatican II. Not eating meat on Friday became optional, it was not done away with entirely. And no, I wasn’t suddenly compelled to believe that if the Church turned a strict observance into an optional observance, that meant “everything goes.”

We still went to Stations of the Cross and observed Holy Days of Obligation. The Sexual Revolution was about sex, not love. The Hippies were saying, “Try our way, it’s better. You’ll get more sex.”

Peace,
Ed
 
“The Hippies were saying, ‘Try our way, it’s better. You’ll get more sex.’”

Peace,
Ed
Labeling a group “The Hippies” is as oblique as referring to “The Republicans” or “The Democrats” or even “The Catholics”, from the looks of the wide array of questions and responses on this forum. Some “Hippies” were on heroin, some were in graduate school; some traveled in VistaDomes, others stayed put and began volunteering to improve the food and water quality in their communities, to fight for access to government information on every level, to reject violence and materialism and to embrace spiritual values.

Just as all movements or parties experience deterioration and bastardization of their missions and goals, so did the Hippie movement. The point is this: generalization only allows for bias and obfuscation of the entire history and meaning of a target group. Why, decades after the fact, anyone points to the Hippies or Sanger because today’s children are making choices their parents view as immoral is unfathomable. Are not the parents responsible for imparting information and moral parameters for their kids? And are not adults free to choose their life directions without armchair critics spewing hateful judgments in their direction?

gen
 
Labeling a group “The Hippies” is as oblique as referring to “The Republicans” or “The Democrats” or even “The Catholics”, from the looks of the wide array of questions and responses on this forum. Some “Hippies” were on heroin, some were in graduate school; some traveled in VistaDomes, others stayed put and began volunteering to improve the food and water quality in their communities, to fight for access to government information on every level, to reject violence and materialism and to embrace spiritual values.

Just as all movements or parties experience deterioration and bastardization of their missions and goals, so did the Hippie movement. The point is this: generalization only allows for bias and obfuscation of the entire history and meaning of a target group. Why, decades after the fact, anyone points to the Hippies or Sanger because today’s children are making choices their parents view as immoral is unfathomable. Are not the parents responsible for imparting information and moral parameters for their kids? And are not adults free to choose their life directions without armchair critics spewing hateful judgments in their direction?

gen
Thank you for your voice of logic and reason, genevievelives! This whole thread has been laughable in its generalizations. One can’t ascribe with any accuracy at all 40+ years of American history to one fringe group demonized as “the hippies.”

True, there were profound sociological changes that occurred world wide during the decade of the 60’s, and of course since, but there is absolutely no way to attribute all of those changes to any one philosophy or movement.

I grew up before the hippies – I lived part of that culture to some degree – and I’ve lived a successful and socially acceptable life since then – as have many, many, many of “the hippies.” After all, we’re really discussing the entire Baby Boomer generation – not just a few wayward love children who partied too hard in The Haight.

Remember, too, the parents of “the hippies” have been called “The Greatest Generation.” They reared their families within the ultra-conformist and repressed 1950’s. It was their conventions and uber-consumerism that the rebellious “hippies” rejected.

It’s futile to try to describe decades of sociological and cultural change by waving labels around and trying to categorize cyclical sociological changes we don’t even comprehend.

Things today may be worse in some ways than before the 60’s, but when you factor in the gains in civil rights, women’s rights to equal opportunities and compensation (and respect), technological, scientific and medical advances, and (thank God) the fresh Breath of the Spirit welcomed into the counter-reformation Catholic Church during Vat II, (even though stymied by reactionary principals since), things aren’t all that bad.

A realistic view of the years before the 60’s might help put things into perspective – everything wasn’t all that peachy then, either.
 
None of the post above makes sense. I was there before and after Vatican II. Not eating meat on Friday became optional, it was not done away with entirely. And no, I wasn’t suddenly compelled to believe that if the Church turned a strict observance into an optional observance, that meant “everything goes.”

We still went to Stations of the Cross and observed Holy Days of Obligation. The Sexual Revolution was about sex, not love. The Hippies were saying, “Try our way, it’s better. You’ll get more sex.”

Peace,
Ed
Sorry, Ed, but relaxation of discipline just when discipline is needed the most, is not the way to strengthen any organization or practice.

At the time when strength was most needed, what “they” did was to weaken the Church.
 
Labeling a group “The Hippies” is as oblique as referring to “The Republicans” or “The Democrats” or even “The Catholics”, from the looks of the wide array of questions and responses on this forum. Some “Hippies” were on heroin, some were in graduate school; some traveled in VistaDomes, others stayed put and began volunteering to improve the food and water quality in their communities, to fight for access to government information on every level, to reject violence and materialism and to embrace spiritual values.

Just as all movements or parties experience deterioration and bastardization of their missions and goals, so did the Hippie movement. The point is this: generalization only allows for bias and obfuscation of the entire history and meaning of a target group. Why, decades after the fact, anyone points to the Hippies or Sanger because today’s children are making choices their parents view as immoral is unfathomable. Are not the parents responsible for imparting information and moral parameters for their kids? And are not adults free to choose their life directions without armchair critics spewing hateful judgments in their direction?

gen
You don’t understand what happened. Radical anarchists entered our neighborhoods. At the time, a lady asked me into her home. She told me I looked to be about her son’s age. She said, “He won’t listen to me anymore. He’s hanging around with the wrong people. He’s using illegal drugs.”

The battle cry was Freedom! Freedom from what? Freedom from all authority - mom, dad, priests, nuns. I don’t have to listen to anybody! Down with the Establishment! Don’t trust anyone over 30!

The judgment needs to be made because it infiltrated American culture at all levels. Underground newspapers, head shops, dope dealers. I opened up one of these papers and was told about “phone phreaking.” Just steal the phone numbers of some greedy corporate entity and make phone calls all over the world. Cool, huh? Eat the Rich!

“The man is bringing you down, man. It’s all about repressing the people. Power to the People!”

No. The constant mantra was reject your parents, reject all authority figures. They promised a Woodstock Nation - a people’s cooperative that would raise the people up! We got nothing!!

They preached anarchy night and day. Radical individualism. No need to use the word “hateful” here. “Get away from me! Leave me alone! I’ll do what I want!” Fine. You don’t need my permission.

I stopped going to the local Head Shop after I realized what they were all about. I was there.

Peace,
Ed
 
Sorry, Ed, but relaxation of discipline just when discipline is needed the most, is not the way to strengthen any organization or practice.

At the time when strength was most needed, what “they” did was to weaken the Church.
And do you know who they were? Certainly not true Catholics but a handful of dissidents inside and outside the Church. I see the lies being spread about Vatican II to distract attention from what actually happened.

Humanae Vitae was leaked before publication. Some of the same people from the original Sexual Revolution are still around trying to salvage their work. The Church is returning to Orthodoxy and gaining strength, first by the works of Pope John Paul II and now, Pope Benedict.

Peace,
Ed
 
You don’t understand what happened. Radical anarchists entered our neighborhoods. At the time, a lady asked me into her home. She told me I looked to be about her son’s age. She said, “He won’t listen to me anymore. He’s hanging around with the wrong people. He’s using illegal drugs.”

The battle cry was Freedom! Freedom from what? Freedom from all authority - mom, dad, priests, nuns. I don’t have to listen to anybody! Down with the Establishment! Don’t trust anyone over 30!

The judgment needs to be made because it infiltrated American culture at all levels. Underground newspapers, head shops, dope dealers. I opened up one of these papers and was told about “phone phreaking.” Just steal the phone numbers of some greedy corporate entity and make phone calls all over the world. Cool, huh? Eat the Rich!

“The man is bringing you down, man. It’s all about repressing the people. Power to the People!”

No. The constant mantra was reject your parents, reject all authority figures. They promised a Woodstock Nation - a people’s cooperative that would raise the people up! We got nothing!!

They preached anarchy night and day. Radical individualism. No need to use the word “hateful” here. “Get away from me! Leave me alone! I’ll do what I want!” Fine. You don’t need my permission.

I stopped going to the local Head Shop after I realized what they were all about. I was there.

Peace,
Ed
I think we do understand. Many of us lived through it. I lost several friends and acquaintances to drug addiction. By this I mean they overdosed and died. I had one radical friend who went on to work for Nixon.

Adolescence and early adulthood are characterized by a reach for autonomy. It was graphic and in-your-face in 1965-70, but after that much of the energy dissipated as people realized they either had to go to school or make a living. I had one boyfriend who went to the University of Wisconsin and in his freshman year he bombed the ROTC building. I had another friend who went on the road with Hunter S. Thompson and crawled up onto the stage and bit Ed Muskie on the ankle. But eventually, as you can see, the pendulum swung back and now it seems kids are more uninspired, pampered consumers than anything else.

All this chatter about how we went to hell in a handbasket almost fifty years ago is the same chatter every generation settles into once past years of prime production and inspired ingenuity. "Oh, you kids - you don’t get it! Why, when I was your age … " I suppose it all right to reminisce and evaluate what was good and what was not so good. But* today* is what we have, and some of us won’t even have the whole day before God gives us the nod to come on home. * Let’s do our best with what we have*, not grouse about what’s done and can’t be changed.

gen
 
I think we do understand. Many of us lived through it. I lost several friends and acquaintances to drug addiction. By this I mean they overdosed and died. I had one radical friend who went on to work for Nixon.

Adolescence and early adulthood are characterized by a reach for autonomy. It was graphic and in-your-face in 1965-70, but after that much of the energy dissipated as people realized they either had to go to school or make a living. I had one boyfriend who went to the University of Wisconsin and in his freshman year he bombed the ROTC building. I had another friend who went on the road with Hunter S. Thompson and crawled up onto the stage and bit Ed Muskie on the ankle. But eventually, as you can see, the pendulum swung back and now it seems kids are more uninspired, pampered consumers than anything else.

All this chatter about how we went to hell in a handbasket almost fifty years ago is the same chatter every generation settles into once past years of prime production and inspired ingenuity. "Oh, you kids - you don’t get it! Why, when I was your age … " I suppose it all right to reminisce and evaluate what was good and what was not so good. But* today* is what we have, and some of us won’t even have the whole day before God gives us the nod to come on home. * Let’s do our best with what we have*, not grouse about what’s done and can’t be changed.

gen
Your observations are not supported by the facts. Once the Hippie movement lost energy in the 1970s, the same spirit of cohabitation with sex and marijuana use became ingrained by the media. Other social engineering changes were introduced.

1970s

Adult Bookstores selling images of prostitutes appear everywhere.
Strip clubs appear everywhere.
Topless go-go bars appear everywhere.
Swinger magazines offering sexual encounters outside of marriage appear.
Abortion is legalized.
Freedom!

1980s

No-Fault Divorce completes its sweep of the country. I saw ads like this in the newspaper:

“No kids? $75 and you’re out. Call 800-DIVORCE.” Books like “How to have a healthy divorce” appeared. Movies showing a guy meeting his friends at the local bar to tell them about his divorce appeared. Were they sad for him? No. They were happy. They told him he would find someone “better.”

So we have Hippie cohabitation and now, easy divorce.

Add porn on cable. I’m driving past a motel offering Free Porn. Who was behind this? Originally, cable was about choices and niches. They never mentioned porn.

1990s

Into the abyss. The ACLU - all about freedom - wakes up one day to see a Nativity in front of a public building! Can’t have that! Out! A local community passes an ordinance that you can play Christmas MUSIC from speakers outside your storefront but you can’t play the WORDS.

I drive past a Church with this sign: “The only thing missing is U.” And everybody gets a credit card. Spend, spend, spend. Followed by card transfer offers of 0%.

Shock jocks interviewing prostitutes on the radio (incorrectly labeled porn stars), rap disrespecting women, talking profanity and shooting people. Media standards go way, way down. And then the internet.

Today, a local free newspaper is filled with ads for grow your own dope. Even the comic strip Doonesbury has joined the media clamor to grow cannabis. Oh yeah. One Supreme Court justice told everybody that we’ll Never go back to the days before LEGAL abortions.

Hippies: No Church, No Marriage, Smoke dope, No respect for authority. Today - pagan, dope smoking culture filled with fornication movies, TV shows where characters that have “just sex” (AIDS? What’s that?). In other words, totally radically dysfunctional living.

Mom? Dad? They’re just biologicals.

Peace,
Ed
 
FIRST PART
Your observations are not supported by the facts. Once the Hippie movement lost energy in the 1970s, the same spirit of cohabitation with sex and marijuana use became ingrained by the media. Other social engineering changes were introduced.

1970s

Adult Bookstores selling images of prostitutes appear everywhere.
Strip clubs appear everywhere.
Topless go-go bars appear everywhere.
Swinger magazines offering sexual encounters outside of marriage appear.
Abortion is legalized.
Freedom!

Prostitution is as old as man’s desire for sex and woman’s desire for economic or emotional security. ** Fact: Pre-Hippies.**
“The origins of striptease as a performance art are disputed and various dates and occasions have been given from ancient Babylonia to twentieth century America. The term ‘striptease’ was first recorded in 1938, though ‘stripping’, in the sense of women removing clothing to sexually excite men, seems to go back at least 400 years.” (Wikipedia) Fact: Pre-Hippies
“Traditional cultures of North America, Africa, Australia and the Pacific Islands considered female toplessness normal and acceptable, at least until the arrival of Christian missionaries, and it continues to be the norm in many indigenous cultures today.” (Wikipedia) ** Fact: Pre-Hippies**
“fornication: for·ni·ca·tion noun \ˌfȯr-nə-ˈkā-shən
Definition of FORNICATION: consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other
First Known Use of FORNICATION: 14th century” (Merriam-Webster) Fact: Pre-Hippies

Freedom? It’s the same old stuff, generation after generation, century after century. There is no freedom in this life, only the pursuit of it.

1980s

No-Fault Divorce completes its sweep of the country. I saw ads like this in the newspaper:

“No kids? $75 and you’re out. Call 800-DIVORCE.” Books like “How to have a healthy divorce” appeared. Movies showing a guy meeting his friends at the local bar to tell them about his divorce appeared. Were they sad for him? No. They were happy. They told him he would find someone “better.”

So we have Hippie cohabitation and now, easy divorce.

*Divorce And Remarriage From The Early Church To John Wesley
David L. Snuth
Trinity Journal 11.2 (Fall 1990): 131-142. (For

FROM WINNIPEG THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY
OTTERBURNE, MANITOBA:*

*"The problem of divorce and remarriage is by no means a recent one for the church. From its inception, it has found this problem an irritant. Throughout the centuries, Christian leaders have grappled with the pros and cons of the matter.

The Attitudes Of The Early Church

All peoples in the Roman Empire, regardless of their religious affiliation, had the right to divorce their spouses. Marriage was considered a private contract which, like all other contracts, might be dissolved. Divorce was easily attained and, because the state placed heavy financial burdens upon single people, remarriage was encouraged./I]"* (For further reading with regard to Catholic belief: theologicalstudies.org.uk/article_divorce_snuth.html Fact: Pre-Hippies

Add porn on cable. I’m driving past a motel offering Free Porn. Who was behind this? Originally, cable was about choices and niches. They never mentioned porn.

Porn is a choice. It may be a poor choice but it is a choice. Who was behind it? Someone, or a group of people, interested in making money off others’ prurient interests. Since you are the only person you have full control over, and you choose not to invest your money or energy in pornography, you are in no danger.]
 
SECOND PART

1990s

Into the abyss. The ACLU - all about freedom - wakes up one day to see a Nativity in front of a public building! Can’t have that! Out! A local community passes an ordinance that you can play Christmas MUSIC from speakers outside your storefront but you can’t play the WORDS.

I drive past a Church with this sign: “The only thing missing is U.” And everybody gets a credit card. Spend, spend, spend. Followed by card transfer offers of 0%.

After multiple readings, I’m not getting your point here.

Shock jocks interviewing prostitutes on the radio (incorrectly labeled porn stars), rap disrespecting women, talking profanity and shooting people. Media standards go way, way down. And then the internet.

*Don’t look, don’t listen (how do you know, for instance, that the prostitutes were incorrectly labeled “porn stars”?), don’t succumb. Spiritual fortitude is the only weapon against what we may believe is sinful. *

Today, a local free newspaper is filled with ads for grow your own dope. Even the comic strip Doonesbury has joined the media clamor to grow cannabis. Oh yeah. One Supreme Court justice told everybody that we’ll Never go back to the days before LEGAL abortions.

Dope and abortions in the same sentence. That’s a stretch. In CA. we can grow dope; it’s not illegal. We can grow for our own use. I don’t use but I would never interfere with someone who chooses to grow and use. As for abortion, there are several threads on this forum that deal with that subject and all of its minutiae; those would be the better sources for Catholic and non-Catholic thought on the subject.

Hippies: No Church, No Marriage, Smoke dope, No respect for authority. Today - pagan, dope smoking culture filled with fornication movies, TV shows where characters that have “just sex” (AIDS? What’s that?). In other words, totally radically dysfunctional living.

I’m sorry, I just disgree with all of this.

Mom? Dad? They’re just biologicals.

*They’re biologicals, no doubt; the lucky kids get the upgrade: parents who are involved, patient, fearless and grounded. The others? Well, if they can unionize and get on Howard Stern’s radio show, they’ll at least be making scale.

gen*

Peace,
Ed
 
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