The 10 Commandments and islam

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

I agree with u that children must not be blamed for parents sin. But
If it’s not a big deal , then I wonder why holy Bible prohibits entering to prayer house not only for bas… but his/her next several generations ?

Moreover , as mother of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was a chaste woman , why some Christians need to lie like this ? What can I say ? Those who are spreading lies , may God either guide or curse them .

 

[planten]

since Muhammad’s father died before Muhammad, and since Muhammad was born after 4 years from Abdullah’s death (if you link the info found in the Islamic literature), some said that Muhammad’s mother Amina stayed pregnant for 4 years…you know, to say that she didn’t fornicate with anyone, though in some Islamic literature there are hints to Muhammad being rejected for having “no roots”…of course what am saying now is alien to many people, but these historical things about Muhammad are found in books usually not translated and not discussed by Muslims, but they are put on tv with references and citations by people who want to discuss what others don’t want to.

**in Jesus, please do not post such things that Muhammad was born four years afte rhis father’s death. These are malafide (silly) statements. We could easily refer you to the geneology of jessu where a few illegitmate persons are found as his predecessors. Would you like that we make that known to every one?

The most you will say is that it is written in the books. We will also say that the genes of Jesus are described in the bibleOT.

If not then desist.**

 

[R_not]

If it’s not a big deal , then I wonder why holy Bible prohibits entering to prayer house not only for bas… but his/her next several generations ?

Moreover , as mother of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was a chaste woman , why some Christians need to lie like this ? What can I say ? Those who are spreading lies , may God either guide or curse them .

Show us what passage that says a bastard cannot enter a prayer house. I am not familiar with that. I am interested.

 

[R_not]

Thanks. I wonder if the Jews even follow that one anymore. If you don’t know that is fine.

Jesus’ message was so different that all he mentioned was to bring the little children to Him. He never mentioned the parentage of them, or if they were born out of wedlock or not.

Look at mohammed’s message - let the child be born (which makes me think since he was a bastard maybe that is why he was ok with kids who were born out of wedlock) but kill the mother! And that just goes into his hating women which could have started with his own mother.

 

[R_not]

**in Jesus, please do not post such things that Muhammad was born four years afte rhis father’s death. These are malafide (silly) statements. We could easily refer you to the geneology of jessu where a few illegitmate persons are found as his predecessors. Would you like that we make that known to every one?

The most you will say is that it is written in the books. We will also say that the genes of Jesus are described in the bibleOT.

If not then desist.**

Instead of bullying people with your half-baked threats why don’t you prove to us that it isn’t true. Show us some hadith, or some historical evidence. inJesus showed us some proof and all you do is threaten and bully others if they mention it.

 

[Benjamin8o8]

Instead of bullying people with your half-baked threats why don’t you prove to us that it isn’t true. Show us some hadith, or some historical evidence. inJesus showed us some proof and all you do is threaten and bully others if they mention it.

LOL. Muslims will NEVER and I literly mean NEVER be able to prove to us anything with historical evidence. I even challenged muslims so simply when I asked them give me evidence Islam existed before Mohammed. None of them gave me evidence, planten I think just said “its in the koran”. Come on now, God gave us a brain to work with. This Brain consists desire for the truth and logic sense. But unfortuanlty for Muslims, they have the koran to think for them.:-/

 

[R_not]

LOL. Muslims will NEVER and I literly mean NEVER be able to prove to us anything with historical evidence. I even challenged muslims so simply when I asked them give me evidence Islam existed before Mohammed. None of them gave me evidence, planten I think just said “its in the koran”. Come on now, God gave us a brain to work with. This Brain consists desire for the truth and logic sense. But unfortuanlty for Muslims, they have the koran to think for them.:-/

Yeah - you are right. I just get tired of planten using his bullying to try to get people to shut up. That behavior has gone on so long in islam that is what they are used to. Well, they are used to killing people for speaking about mohammed.

They think everyone - I mean EVERYONE - was a muslim in the Bible and that includes Jesus. They think we are muslims when we are born and I say well, maybe we were but we are baptized and taken out of that state of sin. That is why it is called ‘reverting’ to islam. One reverts back to the state of sin.

See how logical that is?!

 

[planten]

Here is a link that, once Islamic data are put together, prove that Muhammad was born 4 years after his father’s death but the link is in Arabic.

romanos.150m.com/nasab_mo7amad.htm

**Here is the beginning of Mathew chapter 1 describing the line of Jesus.

The Genealogy of Jesus
1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
4Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
6and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
7Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,
8Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
9Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
10Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,
11and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[a] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
12After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13Zerubbabel the father of Abiud,
Abiud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Eliud,
15Eliud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ**.

 

[Benjamin8o8]

**Here is the beginning of Mathew chapter 1 describing the line of Jesus.

The Genealogy of Jesus
1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
4Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
6and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
7Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,
8Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
9Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
10Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,
11and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[a] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
12After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13Zerubbabel the father of Abiud,
Abiud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Eliud,
15Eliud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ**.

Now heres a list of muslims before Mohammed:

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Mohammed.

 

[R_not]

Now heres a list of muslims before Mohammed:

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Mohammed.

thanks - I needed a laugh this morning. I kept scrolling and scrolling and I really do not know why - but I did and then realized what you were up to.

 

[Benjamin8o8]

thanks - I needed a laugh this morning. I kept scrolling and scrolling and I really do not know why - but I did and then realized what you were up to.

lol, I`m just so eager for Muslims to testify to the truth. But I know they never will, because they cursed themselves. They said if they are wrong, God should punish them, Muslim Woman did, and this is the result of their stuborness

also, the Koran prohibs cursing each other, so its really no wonder.

 

[planten]

** I do not need to prove anything. It is all there. Read the last lines of that chapter posted. It says:**

16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

**That clearly says that Jesus was born of Joseph the Carpentar who was son of Jacob.

Who told you that Jesus was son of God and when did any one tell you? We will come to that very soon. Let me know who told you that Jesus was son of God and not the son of Jospeh the Carpentar.

Mathew is very important person and so is his gospel. It is all in your own book bibleNT. Would you deny that Jesus was the son of Joseph the Carpentar?**

 

[Benjamin8o8]

** I do not need to prove anything. It is all there. Read the last lines of that chapter posted. It says:**

16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

**That clearly says that Jesus was born of Joseph the Carpentar who was son of Jacob.

Who told you that Jesus was son of God and when did any one tell you? We will come to that very soon. Let me know who told you that Jesus was son of God and not the son of Jospeh the Carpentar.

Mathew is very important person and so is his gospel. It is all in your own book bibleNT. Would you deny that Jesus was the son of Joseph the Carpentar?**

oh boy, who told us that Jesus is the Son of God? Are you aware that this is a Historical question?

 

[inJESUS]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

It’s ok if u hate Islam & Muslims. But please don’t write lies like this . It’s not giving your religion any credit . By spreading lies like this intentionally , you believe you are showing that you are a good follower of Jesus ( may peace & blessings of God be upon him ) ?

i gave a site quoting your literature…sue them…

 

[doggydoo]

yes but the Jesus genealogies are obvious cut and paste jobs that discredit themselves in the eyes of anyone who can read.

Likewise, the very first page of the New Testament introduces another major contradiction: inconsistent genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. Some have “explained” this by saying that Luke is the genealogy of Mary; such a claim acknowledges error, since Luke specifically states that it is the genealogy of JOSEPH [Luke 3:23], just like Matthew [Matt 1:16]. So, either there is a contradiction (Matthew says that Jacob is the father of Joseph; Luke says Heli is the father of Joseph, and from there back to Solomon not a single name is the same; not even the same number of generations), or one of them is making an incorrect statement about a relevant fact for Jesus’ claim to the House of David.

a side by side comparison reveals another obvious sham …Shealtiel father of Zerubbabel are found in both lines going through two different sons of David

Matthew Luke

David David
Solomon Nathan
Rhoboam Mattatha
Abijah Menna
Asa Melea
Jehoshaphat Eliakim
Johoram Jonam
Uzziah Joseph
Jotham Judah
Ahaz Simeon
Hezekiah Levi
Manasseh Matthat
Amon Jorim
Josiah Eliezer
Jeconiah Joshua
****Er
Elmadam
Cosam
Addi
Melki
Neri
SHEALTIE SHEALTIEL
ZERUBB ZERUBB
Abiud Rhesa
Eliakim Joanan
Azor Joda
Zadok Josech
Akim Semein
Eliud Mattathias
Eleazar Maath
Matthan Naggai
Jacob Esli
Nahum
Amos
Mattathias
Joseph
Jannai
Melki
Levi
Matthat
Heli
Joseph Joseph
Jesus Jesus

 

[inJESUS]

Am sorry i gave a link in Arabic. Those who are interested to see whether am lying or not can ask someone to translate for them as the link gives references from Islamic hadith, literature and commentaries.

 

[planten]

**That is all your good wishes that Joseph was the adopted father of Jesus. So according to you Jesus ( being a god) was the father of Joseph the carpentar and Jesus was the father of Mary too, i.e. his mother?

I do not use dan Brown technology. I am using the same tehnology that some of your abusive posters are adopting. There is no Dan Brown here. It is all in your own man made book bibleNT, gospel of Mathew, chapter 1. Would you deny it?**

 

[Benjamin8o8]

**That is all your good wishes that Joseph was the adopted father of Jesus. So according to you Jesus ( being a god) was the father of Joseph the carpentar and Jesus was the father of Mary too, i.e. his mother?

I do not use dan Brown technology. I am using the same tehnology that some of your abusive posters are adopting. There is no Dan Brown here. It is all in your own man made book bibleNT, gospel of Mathew, chapter 1. Would you deny it?**

oh, so its man made? If its man-made then why are some sciptures in the Koran?

Planten- because the Bible has some revelations from God, we muslims believe that.

Me- What about the rest

Planten- The other sections have been corupted over time, meaning its all man-made.

Me- Give me proof the verses have been corrupted.

Planten-…Opens the Koran to prove his logic

Don`t have Mohammed think for you man, liberate yourself.

 

[planten]

J K, thanks for your poitive reply. you said: but Christ is the son of God.

My question was, “Who told you that?” When was this news broken in the world for the first time that Jesus was not the son of Joseph but he was the son of God? in what year? and at what age of Jesus?

 

[Benjamin8o8]

J K, thanks for your poitive reply. you said: but Christ is the son of God.

My question was, “Who told you that?” When was this news broken in the world for the first time that Jesus was not the son of Joseph but he was the son of God? in what year? and at what age of Jesus?

You`re a muslim and you want to know about HISTORY??

Okay, the Church is 2000 years old, which traces back to Jersualem 33 AD when the Catholic Church was first established, prior to 33 AD the Missionray of Jesus was caried out by the apostles. The Apostles claimed Jesus was the Son of God. Jesus claimed He was the Son of God. The Jews killed HIM because He was the Son of God. Does not the vast majority of converts from Jews to Christianity not amaze you? Did you not know NO FORCE at all was used to originate Christianity. Actually it was the other way around, Christians were getting persecuted. But for what? There is no historical evidence that nobody originated Christianity by themselves other then Jesus Christ Himself. So with that said, that right is proof that Jesus Christ got Resurected. Otherwise it would mean, all kids, fathers, and husbands left their sacred religion JEWDISUM for a simply lie? But why? Just to get persecuted. Thats not logic.

Nobody can deny the History of the Resurection, its one thing to say Christianinty got corrupted, its another to prove it.

If you don`t believe what I wrote, you need to learn about history yourself and not have the koran or mohammed tell you about it.