The 2012 GOP Presidential Field Is Set

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_Abyssinia said:
Thrill Is Gone? Chris Matthews Turns On Obama; ‘I Hear Stories That You Would Not Believe:’

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Christ Matthews is right. If you want to govern in a democracy, you have to pick up the phone, talk to people and make coalitions. I don’t know whether the President has done that or not. Matthews says that he hasn’t and he is in a position to know. He sure sounds angry.
 
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Newt Gingrich: MSNBC “Essentially The Obama Re-Election Team”

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Romney: “I Am Not Going To Walk Away From” RomneyCare

“If it hurts me politically, it’s a consequence of the truth. I am not going to walk away from that. It’s right for states to come up with their own solutions. I doubt other people are going try and follow the one we put together. Maybe learn from our experience. Maybe come up with something better. But the wrong course is to have the federal government impose its will on the entire nation,” Mitt Romney said about RomneyCare on FOX News this afternoon.

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That is a pretty good answer actually. He did what was politically possible at the time, and what the people of Massachusetts wanted very possibly.
But if it didn’t turn out to the beacon of light that was hoped, good that others don’t follow the example.
Keeping health care more local to the people rather than at a federal level is not such a bad idea really.
 
The Republican: “Clearly at this late stage in the pre-primary season, it appears only Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney have the depth and understanding to compete with President Obama next fall. The others are good people, but they are just not ready to be President of the United States of America, and Obama would destroy them.”

Republicans blast Pentagon cuts in GOP debate

Romney accused Obama of “harming the capacity of America to defend itself” by slashing the Pentagon budget by $350 billion - Washington Examiner

“Rick Perry called it “reprehensible” that the U.S. defense budget faces major cuts because of the failure of the congressional “super committee,” slamming President Obama for his hands-off approach to the deficit-cutting panel.” - LA Times

**Highlights from National Security debate **

Full CNN debate:

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Romney made his case clear in a recent foreign policy debate: “If we reelect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if we elect Mitt Romney, if you’d like me as the next president, they will not have a nuclear weapon.” - Weekly Standard

Romney under-performed Gingrich - David Frum

Gingrich calls for regime change in Iran - WSJ

Newt: ‘We Should Be Furious’ At Pakistan - Fox

Rick Santorum said his administration would apply “more scrutiny” to Muslim passengers in airports - CNN

“Herman Cain said he would consider having the United States join Israel in bombing suspected Iranian nuclear facilities, an idea that Texas Rep. Ron Paul warned would be dangerous and unwise.” - USA Today

Perry repeats call for No Fly Zone over Syria - NPR

“Perry is becoming the almost over-the-top candidate — last time eliminating cabinet departments and now cutting off all “blank checks” to Pakistan (to be replaced by “trade zones”?) and suggesting Leon Panetta resign. I guess he has to push the envelope, given that time is running out. He is getting better, but that is mostly because he was lately so weak.” - Victor Davis Hanson for NRO

Ron Paul called the War on Drugs a “total failure”… “I think that’s another war we ought to cancel,” said Paul, a fierce critic of America’s military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. “Because it’s to nobody’s benefit. And that’s where the violence is coming from.” - Daily Caller

The former House speaker diverged from his rivals in the Republican presidential field Tuesday, declining to say that he would support the deportation of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in America." - [Politico](# The former House speaker diverged from his rivals in the Republican presidential field Tuesday, declining to say that he would support the deportation of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in America." - Politico

“Gingrich, a former House speaker and skilled debater, risked ending up like Texas Gov. Rick Perry. The first blows Perry’s presidential campaign suffered were at a September debate when he defended Texas giving in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, saying that opponents of the policy don’t “have a heart.”” - [URL='http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/newt_pulls_immigration_surprise_XptpoxmXZj0C7n85DHYbMI#ixzz1eWFNJ3ru']New York Post
 
“Democrats are grateful no single candidate has emerged as a clear front-runner in the GOP presidential field. Republicans are thankful President Barack Obama’s approval ratings are in the tank.” - Politico

“26% of Democrats saying that they would prefer the party to nominate another Democrat for president next year, up from 18% in October… “The biggest change comes among white Democrats with no college education…” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Half of all white Democrats with no college education say they don’t want President Obama heading their party’s ticket next year.”” - CNN

“A Texas court’s newly released congressional redistricting map is a major victory for Democrats and Latinos who had protested a GOP-drawn map that squeezed both groups. The new map will likely give Democrats 13 House seats in the state, up from the nine seats they currently hold. It is also an improvement from the 10 likely seats Democrats would have gotten from the districts into which the Republican map had packed their constituents.” - The Hill

“…the electoral experience of the last 50 years does nothing to undermine the common-sense notion that most political battles are won by seizing and holding the ideological center … The notion that ideologically pure conservative candidates can win by disregarding centrists and magically producing previously undiscovered legions of true-believer voters remains a fantasy. It is not a strategy. At the moment, it is easy to imagine Mitt Romney appealing to many citizens who would never consider Rick Perry or Herman Cain.” - Michael Medved for the Wall Street Journal

“The former House speaker appears to have alienated some of the conservatives who had warmed to his candidacy by saying Tuesday in a candidates debate that he would allow millions of illegal immigrants who have settled in the United States to become legal residents.” - Washington Post

“Iowa Rep. Steve King, a conservative Republican, said Wednesday that he disagreed with Gingrich’s position, calling it “a form of amnesty”… Asked whether the issue meant King would not support Gingrich, King said that it was “something that concerns me” and that he “moved a little bit away last night.”” - CNN
 
Charles Krauthammer: Democrat attempts to paint Republicans as doing nothing to help grow the economy are wrong

Krauthammer"It is the Republicans who passed — through the House, the only branch of government they control — a real budget that cut $5.8 trillion of spending over the next 10 years. Obama’s February budget, which would have increased spending, was laughed out of the Senate, voted down 97 to 0. As for the Democratic Senate, it has submitted no budget at all for [two and a half] years." - Charles Krauthammer for the Washington Post

Screen shot 2011-01-19 at 11.33.51"Newt Gingrich’s political gamble to support legal status for some illegal immigrants is landing with a thud in some states that vote early in the Republican nominating contest. “There are only three things Republicans in Iowa want to hear when it comes to immigration right now,” said Brian Rosener, chairman of the Woodbury County Republican Central Committee, in western Iowa. “Secure the borders, secure the borders, secure the borders.”" - WSJ

“Gingrich’s conservatism… echoes many of the themes of the early 20th-century Progressive movement, which tried to improve America through governmental and social reform. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, he argued that the welfare state should be replaced with an “opportunity society”.” - Timothy Stanley for the Daily Telegraph
* “In a presidential election dominated by economic issues, illegal immigration is emerging as the dominant social litmus test for Republican candidates as voters debate what to do about millions of immigrants now living illegally in America.” - Washington Examiner

“A bipartisan group of political strategists and donors known as Americans Elect has raised $22 million and is likely to place a third presidential candidate on the ballot in every state next year. The goal is to provide an alternative to President Obama and the GOP nominee and break the tradition of a Democrat-vs.-Republican lineup.” - Washington Post
 
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Gingrich’s immigration plan: Strategy, not amnesty; Update: Bachmann in September: “Depends on how long they have been here” - HotAirhttp://dailycaller.com/2011/11/23/b...protestant-problems-its-not-the-mormon-thing/
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Thanks for posting this link. I knew Gingrich didn’t mean what everyone tried to blow it up in to. Secure the border first, then resolve the existing issues…
Full CNN Republican National Security Debate - 11/22/11
youtube.com/watch?v=eQAhzU9Y4Xg
 
Caldera said:
Thanks for posting this link. I knew Gingrich didn’t mean what everyone tried to blow it up in to. Secure the border first, then resolve the existing issues…
Full CNN Republican National Security Debate - 11/22/11
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This is the problem when you live in the era of sound bite politics. Michele Bachmann has been a HUGE disappointment in this area, because the second she hears a sound clip that she can snap on to, she tries to stretch it to be more than it is.

I get what Gingrich was saying. He was there when Reagan signed the “amnesty” bill in the 80s. The problem is that the Democrats promised to secure the border as part of the pacakge…and then when they got what they wanted, they refused to fill their part of it. So, we do that FIRST, and then we look at a humane and comprehensive way to take care of the ones that are here.

The ones that came over illegally, but have integrated themselves into the community and truely have tried to become “Americanized”, we find a way to fix the “illegal” part of their status without giving them citizenship. How can Republicans, who claim to be the party of family, particularly the Catholic ones, endorse a policy of “kick them all out, no exceptions”. If that is your stand, I weep for you when you have to explain yourself at the feet of Christ.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
So, we do that FIRST, and then we look at a humane and comprehensive way to take care of the ones that are here.

The ones that came over illegally, but have integrated themselves into the community and truely have tried to become “Americanized”, we find a way to fix the “illegal” part of their status without giving them citizenship. How can Republicans, who claim to be the party of family, particularly the Catholic ones, endorse a policy of “kick them all out, no exceptions”. If that is your stand, I weep for you when you have to explain yourself at the feet of Christ.
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I honestly don’t see any other way to deal with it without being inhumane. But definitely secure the border first.

And yes, I was disappointed with Bachmann’s comments on the issue…
 
Caldera said:
But definitely secure the border first.
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I notice that in Europe, there are open borders between states belonging to the European community. And the US has been supporting the European Community idea. If it is good enough for Europe, why shouldn’t it be good for the USA to have open borders with Canada and Mexico allowing people to travel freely between countries as they do in Europe? I thought that the USA stood for freedom and liberty for people.
 
louis91766 said:
I notice that in Europe, there are open borders between states belonging to the European community. And the US has been supporting the European Community idea. If it is good enough for Europe, why shouldn’t it be good for the USA to have open borders with Canada and Mexico allowing people to travel freely between countries as they do in Europe? I thought that the USA stood for freedom and liberty for people.
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People can travel freely through the USA, Canada and Mexico can’t they?
 
I thought you needed a tourist card? So you are allowed to remain 4-months.
 
louis91766 said:
I notice that in Europe, there are open borders between states belonging to the European community. And the US has been supporting the European Community idea. If it is good enough for Europe, why shouldn’t it be good for the USA to have open borders with Canada and Mexico allowing people to travel freely between countries as they do in Europe? I thought that the USA stood for freedom and liberty for people.
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That is a fair question but its not as simple as you frame it. I think you have to look at the difference between the countries that comprise the EU and the countries south of the American border. In Europe, the countries are modern, wealthy, first world countries. I could be wrong, but its hard to imagine hordes of Belgians trying to sneak into France, or hordes of Germans trying to sneak into Austria to get a better life. On the other hand, you have Mexicans and other poor, 3rd world countries trying to enter America illegally to get jobs and make money - to improve their lives. It is totally appropriate for America to set the rules and parameters regarding orderly immigration into their country. If the borders were open as you advocate, then the infrastructure would be overwhelmed. We can handle immigration, but it has to be in proportion to what we can handle and should be legal. So its not quite fair to compare the EU with America. It would be nice if Mexico could clean up its act and have a country that people would want to stay and live in. As it is, Mexico is full of corruption and narco-terrorists.

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John Rossomando on The Republican: Tony Blankley to ConHomeUSA: Gingrich would deliver the biggest conservative agenda since Reagan if elected president

“It’s well known that the U.S. is rife with political division: red vs. blue, the coasts vs. the interior, cities vs. rural areas, the 1% vs. the 99%. Less discussed is the yawning gap that has recently opened between young and old. America today is more politically divided by age than it has been in 40 years, according to a major new survey by the Pew Research Center,” Michael Crowley writes in Time’s Swampland blog

Gingrich up in the polls, but lacks congressional endorsements – Newsmax

Romney dominates the race for endorsements, Nate Silver writes in the New York Times’s Five Thirty-Eight blog

Santorum eyes brass ring on anti-Romney “carousel” – Washington Times

Bachmann, Gingrich take advantage of the Black Friday sales rush – WSJ

“President Barack Obama’s approval ratings are improving steadily, and the Republicans need to rally around one candidate if they hope to beat him, GOP pollster John McLaughlin tells Newsmax.TV. After falling, Obama’s approval rating has rebounded to 47 percent, while 51 percent still disapprove of his job performance. Although the numbers show he is vulnerable, they are drastically changed from this time last year, when his approval ratings were in the 60 percent range, McLaughlin said …” – Newsmax

“’We get it,’ said the aide. ‘We will tie them in knots.’ There’s little doubt the use of the Obama quote in Romney’s first ad – which played only for a short time and only in New Hampshire – was a deliberate provocation from the Romney campaign. On November 21, the Romney press shop sent out a release announcing the ad and detailing where each of its soundbites came from. The press release made clear – as the ad itself did not – that the Obama soundbite in question came from a speech in which Obama was quoting McCain. Romney’s spokeswoman Gail Gitcho, wrote a blog post on the same day explaining that ‘the tables have turned’ and that Obama today is doing the same thing he accused McCain of doing in 2008 – avoiding the topic of the economy.”, Byron York writes in the Washington Examiner

Did Newt Gingrich just flip-flop on immigration? - Christian Science Monitor

Michele Bachmann publishes Gingrich’s 2004 pro-amnesty letter - [TheOtherMcCain

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