The 300

[mrS4ntA]

Now I’m just lost. Where are you getting this?

Someone asked what the Persians were doing, I answered: behaving like an ancient society (example: greek destruction of troy.)

Where is there a justification in there?

The only judgment I’ve made here is to say that the Spartans were bad-they murdered slaves for fun, kept slaves, practiced sex with small boys, and killed babies.

That’s isn’t a comparison.

Actually, the Spartans practices chaste pederastry, their neighboring states had the more explicit version of the practice

 

[child_of_God85]

I agree. I’m going to go see it again with my son. Definitely a guy-film. The style of the film made it less gory, in a way. The black/white and sepia slow-mo made the blood almost look like ink splattering on a page…interesting style.

The core messages - honor, freedom, loyalty, etc. - were very evident and positive. Two of the sex scenes were an interesting contrast, whether historical or not they certainly set up the good side versus the evil side: Spartan king/queen = love between husband and wife; Xerxes = mutant orgy to entice the Spartan traitor.

Why does everyone keep calling this a guy film? as a woman who saw and enjoyed the movie, I’l a bit insulted by that. You make it sound like us ‘delicate women’ couldn’t handle it. I saw more guys in the theater squirming during the violent scenes that I saw women.

 

[rlg94086]

Why does everyone keep calling this a guy film? as a woman who saw and enjoyed the movie, I’l a bit insulted by that. You make it sound like us ‘delicate women’ couldn’t handle it. I saw more guys in the theater squirming during the violent scenes that I saw women.

Sorry. Guys…and tough Spartan-like women - “only Spartan women give birth to real men.”

Just saw it again last night with my son. My wife is not interested. My 13yo daughter wants to see it, but she is not old enough.

 

[wabrams]

If that’s the case, then the movie could also be seen as anti-Catholic, and your love for “liberty” is also anti-Catholic.

This just goes to show you how anti-Catholic 99.98% of all so-called Catholics truly are.

The Catholic Church doesn’t prescribe to the Masonic idea of “liberty”, but is absolutely opposed to it!

By the way, it’s also opposed to “tyranny” by Muslims. The Catholic viewpoint is to SUPPORT the “tyranny” of the Pope over everyone in the world.

Any proof for these statements, or are they just uninformed rants?

 

[lucius_dei]

Some facts the movie would never have dare told you:

1. Spartan society was one of the main inspirations for the National socialist (Nazi) party ideology
2. 50 years after the events of “300” the spartans entered an alliance with Persia and assisted the Persians in attacking the rest of Greece
3. Persians in real life back in the days of antiquity were pale skinned, blonde hair and blue eyes. Greeks both then and today were olive to dark skinned almost to the point where they were sometimes mistaken as Nubians (most of these dark Greeks came from southern Peleponesia)
4. Although his son and grandson were very much corrupted, Cyrus the great (grandfather to the “300” antagonist Xerxes) was considered one of the most wise rulers of the ancient world (by the days standards) He allowed freedom of religion, freed the Jews and helped in rebuilding the Hebrew temple and is praised greatly in the bible en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_in_the_Judeo-Christian_tradition

 

[Valke2]

Some facts the movie would never have dare told you:

1. Spartan society was one of the main inspirations for the National socialist (Nazi) party ideology
2. 50 years after the events of “300” the spartans entered an alliance with Persia and assisted the Persians in attacking the rest of Greece
3. Persians in real life back in the days of antiquity were pale skinned, blonde hair and blue eyes. Greeks both then and today were olive to dark skinned almost to the point where they were sometimes mistaken as Nubians (most of these dark Greeks came from southern Peleponesia)
4. Although his son and grandson were very much corrupted, Cyrus the great (grandfather to the “300” antagonist Xerxes) was considered one of the most wise rulers of the ancient world (by the days standards) He allowed freedom of religion, freed the Jews and helped in rebuilding the Hebrew temple and is praised greatly in the bible en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_in_the_Judeo-Christian_tradition

excellent points. Especially number 2. That would kinda take the oomph out of the picture… But are you sure ancient persians were not 7 and a half feet tall, with bits of metal sticking out of their foreheads?

 

[lucius_dei]

excellent points. Especially number 2. That would kinda take the oomph out of the picture… But are you sure ancient persians were not 7 and a half feet tall, with bits of metal sticking out of their foreheads?

I’m quite sure the Ancient Persians were not oversized transsexual Sado-Masochists

 

[isaac.madsen]

Is this Xerxes not the same Xerxes (or Artaxerxes) who married Amestris (or Esther)?

 

[rlg94086]

Is this Xerxes not the same Xerxes (or Artaxerxes) who married Amestris (or Esther)?

Same Xerxes, but IIRC Amestris may or may not have been Esther from the Bible…it is disputed.

 

[bekalc]

The movie was very unfair in a lot of ways, and I don’t blame the Iranians for being quite angry.

One of the most inaccurate things was how they said that Xerxes declared himself to be a “God King”

This is not true. Xerxes was a Zorastrian as was Persia. They believed there was only one god. There concept of this God was different from ours and more dualistic, but they still believed in one GOD.

Also, Biblically, as mentioned earlier, the Bible exhorted Cyrus as someone God placed into power.

Also I love how the movie never mentions the fact that Sparta had slaves…Who are they to talk about democracy and freedom when they deny it to others. In fact, a lot of the people they used to fight were slaves as well.

In reality, the Persian empire was far more tolerant, than the Spartans were. Even though, the empire of course had its issues.

There are a lot of frankly fabulous things about Persian culture. They were incredibly well learned had beautiful libraries etc. Something that is portrayed well in the Book of Esther. The Persian culture has fabulous things about it, and I have a feeling that most of us Westerners would feel more comfortable in ancient Persia, then we would in ancient Sparta.