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Peter_Plato
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Hold onto that thought…The point is that though the perception is real, the object itself might not be real. Hence, believing that the object is real is arbitrary and cannot be justified in the absolute sense, since there is no such thing as induction.
AND that one…Oh but it is very much so. **One might feel a divine presence, but it could just be an illusion. **Belief is a very arbitrary thing.
The “basic principles of human rights” could – as you insist above – just be an illusion since EVERYTHING could be an illuson. So, it is not me who am trying to “question the basic principles of human rights,” it is you, by your inability to consent to properly basic experiences who are putting all of reality into jeopardy, including basic human rights.Uhhhhhh…are you trying to question the basic principles of human rights or are you trying to question atheism? Because it seems like you are drifting towards the former. The rational basis for liberty, etc. is human creativity, as I said in a previous post. These don’t have anything to do necessarily with atheism. Vast swaths of theists and atheists in the first world do believe in fundamental natural rights, which come directly from Enlightenment philosophy.
The rational basis for justice, by the way, is the logical principle of treat like things alike in the respects which they are alike.
And the basic principles of human rights derive from the nature of humanity, human moral agency, the teleological nature of existence and the fact that the ground of all Being values humans and endows us with rights to pursue that which is intrinsically good for us.
Absent those, rights are determinably not basic nor warranted precisely because they are illusory unless God exists to underwrite them as the ultimate ground of Being.