The American Dream is Dead

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Gold is the ultimate asset. It is the purest form of money, and the oldest, most durable wealth-preserving asset on the planet. Governments can’t debase it. It has no debts … no board of directors … no politicians or central bankers that can mess with its value. That’s why gold has survived every economy history has ever witnessed, and preserved investors’ purchasing power over a span of some 5,000 years.

The Price of a Dollar

It sounds strange to say that a dollar has a price. However, it is true. Supply and demand determine the dollar’s price. “…The value of currencies in the foreign exchange market is determined by market forces. Just as the forces of supply and demand determine other prices, so do they determine the exchange-rate value of currencies in the absence of government intervention (Gwartney, Stroup, Sobel).”

When looking at the foreign exchange rates, we can say that the dollar price of the pound is $1.50. The inverse is also true, the pound price of the dollar is 0.67 pounds.

The American dollar is the reserve currency of the world; therefore, the price of gold is in terms of American dollars. If gold was the reserve currency of the world, a financial commentator might say, “Today the price of the dollar dropped by 1/10 of a dwt.” It all depends on what you are use to hearing.

“Why gold has been accepted as money for several thousand years cannot be appreciated without looking at the unique role performed by gold as money and the alternatives to gold….Ancient gold coins were widely accepted in primitive times because of the weight of gold they were known to contain. It was the physical qualities of gold, the known content of gold of a particular fineness, the fact the coinage could not easily be expanded in supply or debased and counterfeited, the durability of gold, that made gold universally accepted (Sutton).”

Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize-winning economist, had this to say about the American dollar: “…each accepts them because he is confident others will. The pieces of green paper have value because everybody thinks they have value, and everybody thinks they have value because in his experience they have had value. Paper money “is a social convention which owes it very existence to the mutual acceptance of what from one point of view is a fiction.”

I return to CON2 and the qualitative characteristic of accounting information, reliability. Does the monetary unit, the American dollar, “faithfully represent what it purports to represent?” My answer is no. The American dollar changes in value everyday. It is not a store of value. On the other hand, gold is a store of value. “Even in ancient times, with primitive communications among vastly different peoples and customs, gold coins generated worldwide confidence…Recognizing the essential requirement of confidence, ancient empires kept the value of their money constant for long periods without debasement (Sutton).” Gold is a reliable monetary unit. Governments cannot create more gold by fiat.

References

Friedman, M. & Schwartz, A. (1963). A Monetary History of the United States, 1867-1960. Princeton: Princeton University Press.

One World Currency

One world government is predicted in the Book of Revelations, so I am on safe ground there. Additionally, “you shall not buy or sell without the mark of the beast.” That sounds like a one-world currency to me. It looks like to me that we are well down that road. Once the dollar is replaced as the reserve currency of the world, we will become a third world power overnight.

Now for a little speculation. We are not going to go to a one world currency in a straight line. Perhaps the G20 nations will follow the example of FDR by raising the price of gold to $5,000 to devalue fiat currencies? Perhaps we will get a basket of currencies to replace the dollar as the reserve currency of the world sooner than we think?

Watch the debt crisis in Spain, Portugal, Greece and now the UK. I think that the U.S. is next. Debt is going to be eliminated one way or another. Trying to pay off the debt is now impossible.

These are some of my favorite quotes from Ludwig von Mises. He is known as the head of the “Austrian school” of economics. He was a Professor of Economics at the University of Vienna from 1934 to 1940

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”

“The whole system is the acme of the short-run principle.”

“The credit expansion boom is built on the sands of banknotes and deposits. It must collapse.”
“If one wants to avoid the recurrence of periods of economic depression, one must start by preventing the emergence of artificial booms. One must prevent the governments from embarking upon a policy of cheap interest rates, deficit spending, and borrowing from the commercial banks. This is, of course, a very difficult task. Governments are in this regard very obstinate. They long for the popularity that booming business conditions seldom fail to win for the party in power. The unavoidable crash, they think, will appear only later; then the other party will be in power and will have to account to the voters for the evils which their predecessors have sown.”

Do you agree that we are at the end of an era?
 
I disagree that it had to collapse. I believe the only reason it was doomed was only because in order for a Gold standard/silver standard to work the common man needs to be on it. I also disagree that Oil would be the New Gold… It is too hard to move and it has a shelf life as well as takes too much capital to store it.
At the time I think the Accords were a great idea, and was an excellent solution for the problems that the allies saw approaching at the close of the second world war. However, the US didn’t really strategize well for the inevitable fact that our allies and enemies were highly advanced and and industrialized people who would one day be our competition again. I remember growing up and when there seemed to be an assumption that the US held its position of industrial supremacy by divine right. So I think that the States were just not prepared for inevitable changes, and we reacted poorly and we continued to react poorly. I agree that the accords didn’t have to collapse though if we had prepared ourselves for the fact that one day our guests would be returning to dinner.

[quests]Even if we agree on that point the world is already moving to other technologies and soon Oil as fuel will be much less needed then today and we will be back to something of value that is hard to get. If gold were to become the worlds currency it would hold value until traders accepted Fiat currency, which I doubt they will do unless forced to do so for generations AFTER the next collapse. This next one is going to be BIG.

Oh I wasn’t saying Oil had to be it, it was just an obvious contender and one that would have to be looked at. My main reason for bringing it up. Is that the world market now is so much different than it once was. In the past the industrial powers were very much alike, and we had similar goals and world views. Now the financial players are very different. There are certainly things that can be done to change that though. China essentially has our industrial base now, but we could get it back. The only problem there is that for us to successfully do that the wealthiest americans would have to take hits to their income, which they usually not willing to do. But I believe it is something that we will need to do, and the time is now to do it. Currently China still really does need us. If we pulled our industrial base back home, they would in the end be the worse for it. But historically US business is not so interested in long term goals. So I think the government would have to get pretty rough with the corporate sector.

However, as a peace maker for that, the government could quit being so weak willed in its enforcement of our trade agreements. We created trade agreements to get rid of high end tariffs around with trading partners, who then turned around and created different taxes to put on our goods. We can play at that game too.

Citizens won’t like it because prices may go up, on goods, however, they’re pay off is that jobs could return to our soil, and incomes could start moving up again. But I think that both you and I can agree that in order to fix, the problems that exist ALL of us are going to have pull together and do our part.
 
There are certainly things that can be done to change that though. China essentially has our industrial base now, but we could get it back. The only problem there is that for us to successfully do that the wealthiest Americans would have to take hits to their income, which they usually not willing to do. But I believe it is something that we will need to do, and the time is now to do it. Currently China still really does need us. If we pulled our industrial base back home, they would in the end be the worse for it. But historically US business is not so interested in long term goals. So I think the government would have to get pretty rough with the corporate sector.
I believe you were correct in your estimation that corporate America will fight it. That being said the current administration is doing some things that are may actually either set us up for preeminence or something far worse.
Citizens won’t like it because prices may go up, on goods, however, they’re pay off is that jobs could return to our soil, and incomes could start moving up again. But I think that both you and I can agree that in order to fix, the problems that exist ALL of us are going to have pull together and do our part.
When the collapse comes average Joe is going to feel a LOT of pain and he will not really care what the Rich say. As long as the jobs come back that will be fine with him. On the other hand if corporate America does not like it they may go the way of Marie Antoinette.
I believe we will retreat to our borders. The parts of the world that hold all the debt will want to be paid, and we will not honor that debt. I do not think that any of the West will honor it. We will likely trade with each other as we all declare mutual bankruptcy, but to do so we will need a form of barter that has value and is easily moved. I don’t know what that commodity will be, but likely extremely rare materials. Maybe Man Made Isotopes. Since, in my opinion Money is really just a measure or Time-Effort it makes sense that an extremely expensive isotope, something that cannot be forged and takes nation states to produce may become the currency of governments as the value will be intrinsic in its creation.

In any event I think businesses and common traders will once again go to a familiar intrinsically valuable currency. Gold and Silver. What is truly amazing is in order to get the volume of trade that world economies need can you imagine what and ounce of gold will be worth with they finally do print Gold Certificates again. Gold wedding rings will be extremely valuable and likely a thing of the past. At least until such time as Fiat currency can be trotted out again and people actually believe that it holds some value… I am afraid it will be a long time after the next fall.
 
You guys are having a good, deep discussion. I am enjoying it! Let me add some more thoughts:

The G-20 nations may propose devaluing all currencies, including the dollar and the euro. **This government move is theft! ** What is the difference between a thief **stealing **50% of our money or the government devaluing your money by 50%?

Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar by Executive Order #6102 by confiscating gold and raising its price 69.3%. FDR stole from my grandfather! ** His action was also unconstitutional. Expect more of the same in our time. Led by higher gold prices, debts become a fraction of re-inflated asset prices. On that basis alone, I would never buy bonds, especially government bonds!**

If people do not buy bonds, there will be no economic recovery, ever.
 
I believe you were correct in your estimation that corporate America will fight it. That being said the current administration is doing some things that are may actually either set us up for preeminence or something far worse.
Yeah hard to say. When comes down to economic issues, there really hasn’t been much difference between the left and right for awhile now. They’ve both been playing from the same handbook because both are getting their cheques. So while the current administration says it is about “change” we’ll have to see if that is actually the case.
When the collapse comes average Joe is going to feel a LOT of pain and he will not really care what the Rich say. As long as the jobs come back that will be fine with him. On the other hand if corporate America does not like it they may go the way of Marie Antoinette.
True if the corporate world continues on without restraint and if the government is unable or unwilling to forceable restrain them then I think you’re correct that we’ll see things move beyond painful and get ugly.
I believe we will retreat to our borders. The parts of the world that hold all the debt will want to be paid, and we will not honor that debt. I do not think that any of the West will honor it. We will likely trade with each other as we all declare mutual bankruptcy, but to do so we will need a form of barter that has value and is easily moved. I don’t know what that commodity will be, but likely extremely rare materials. Maybe Man Made Isotopes. Since, in my opinion Money is really just a measure or Time-Effort it makes sense that an extremely expensive isotope, something that cannot be forged and takes nation states to produce may become the currency of governments as the value will be intrinsic in its creation.
Yeah, I’ve thought some of the same things. I’m hoping that we can handle these things in a more civilized manner but, we may end up isolating again. Truth be told, our debut as players in global politics is rather recent. The US has always had a tendency to be isolationists. I hope we don’t go that extreme though.
In any event I think businesses and common traders will once again go to a familiar intrinsically valuable currency. Gold and Silver. What is truly amazing is in order to get the volume of trade that world economies need can you imagine what and ounce of gold will be worth with they finally do print Gold Certificates again. Gold wedding rings will be extremely valuable and likely a thing of the past. At least until such time as Fiat currency can be trotted out again and people actually believe that it holds some value… I am afraid it will be a long time after the next fall.
Well, if we move to a less extravagant level living or if we could discover another stable resource upon which to base a value driven currency then yes it seems like that would be the way to go.
 
If people do not buy bonds, there will be no economic recovery, ever.
Well I think it will be a different kind of economy, just not one based on the American Dollar. Maybe the American Peso or the Northo or CAN-DOL-SO. In any event we better come together for the coming storm or we surely will be economically taken apart.
 
Well I think it will be a different kind of economy, just not one based on the American Dollar. Maybe the American Peso or the Northo or CAN-DOL-SO. In any event we better come together for the coming storm or we surely will be economically taken apart.
All the curriencies of the world are fiat money. There is not enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible to gold.

Governments are not our friends. Governments are the ones who destroyed the value of our money. Governments also operate in secret. They will devalue their currencies overnight when we least expect it.
 
All the curriencies of the world are fiat money. There is not enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible to gold. QUOTE]

Not at todays value. Currently the US has something like 120Mil Troy OZ of gold / $12T in current currency will give you the Time value of 1 oz of Gold.

In the old days you could buy a gallon of gas for 25 cents. If you used the same coin you can still buy a gallon of gas.

In any event we do have enough it just means that values will be different an oz of gold might buy a car. It will all be time value based.
 
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All the curriencies of the world are fiat money. There is not enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible to gold. QUOTE]

Not at todays value. Currently the US has something like 120Mil Troy OZ of gold / $12T in current currency will give you the Time value of 1 oz of Gold.

In the old days you could buy a gallon of gas for 25 cents. If you used the same coin you can still buy a gallon of gas.

In any event we do have enough it just means that values will be different an oz of gold might buy a car. It will all be time value based.
You need enought gold to pay off all debts. National debt is over $90 trillion, unfunded Social Insecurity is $109 trillion,etc. If you sold off every asset in the United States, we would still have a debt of $200,000 for every man, woman and child! The total amount of gold in the world would only fill two high school gyms.
 
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You need enought gold to pay off all debts. National debt is over $90 trillion, unfunded Social Insecurity is $109 trillion,etc. If you sold off every asset in the United States, we would still have a debt of $200,000 for every man, woman and child! The total amount of gold in the world would only fill two high school gyms.
You are assuming that these debts will be paid. I do not believe they will be. I believe that the Nation will declare bankruptcy and that the current system will be replaced. Chapter 7 on a world wide scale.
 
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You are assuming that these debts will be paid. I do not believe they will be. I believe that the Nation will declare bankruptcy and that the current system will be replaced. Chapter 7 on a world wide scale.
I make the same assumption. The dollar is going bankrupt. I cannot even begin to understand the pain and suffering that the devaluation and bankupcy of the American dollar will cause. Unfortunately, prevention does not sell. Only cures sell.
 
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I make the same assumption. The dollar is going bankrupt. I cannot even begin to understand the pain and suffering that the devaluation and bankupcy of the American dollar will cause. Unfortunately, prevention does not sell. Only cures sell.
Only the Swiss Franc and the monatary unit of Lithuania( I forget what it is) are backed by gold. All of the rest of the currencies of the world will fall sooner or later.
 
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Only the Swiss Franc and the monatary unit of Lithuania( I forget what it is) are backed by gold. All of the rest of the currencies of the world will fall sooner or later.
The Swiss franc is a hard currency and it is far better currency than the American dollar. However, you still cannot covert the Swiss franc into gold. There is an official price of gold in Switzerland, and the Swiss government’s budget does not exceed their gold reserves.

The Swiss have had a democracy for 500 years. It looks like the Swiss will still be around long after the U.S. has spent itself into oblivion.
 
FACT #1: The official national debt now stands at $12.68 trillion — an amount equal to about 88.5% of all the goods and services our economy produces in an entire year.

FACT #2: Contingent obligations for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans, and pensions now stand at an additional $108 trillion over and above the “official” national debt.

FACT #3: State, county and local governments are nearly $3 trillion in debt. Many can’t pay and will ultimately demand that Washington assume responsibility for that debt as well.

FACT #4: Total federal, state and local government indebtedness now stands at a mind-blowing $123.6 trillion.

FACT #5: Last year, Washington added $1.4 trillion to the debt. In this fiscal year, the Obama administration will add another $1.6 trillion!

FACT #6: In addition to funding the current trillion-dollar-plus deficits, the U.S. Treasury must borrow MORE each year to replace bills, notes and bonds that are maturing.

FACT #7: This record-shattering borrowing by the Treasury has resulted in a Mt. Everest of Treasury obligations being dumped onto the market, which naturally depresses bond prices and drives interest rates higher.

FACT #8: In a desperate attempt to keep interest rates low, the Bernanke Federal Reserve has created $1.25 trillion out of thin air to buy mortgage-backed securities … another $300 billion to buy U.S. Treasuries … and yet another $170.6 billion to buy other government bonds — a total of nearly $1.7 trillion in all.

FACT #9: From September 10, 2008 to March 10 of this year, Bernanke increased the nation’s monetary base from $850 billion to $2.1 trillion — a 250% increase in just 18 months.

FACT #10: Despite this massive money-printing, the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note has STILL risen by more than one-fifth — from 3.2% to 3.86% — since December.

FACT #11: Because of this massive money-printing, the U.S. dollar has lost nearly 10% of its value in the past 12 months alone.
 
But Make No Mistake About It:
The U.S. Faces The Same Fiscal Nightmare,
And The Dollar Will Not Survive It Either
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by Larry Edelson

Although here in the U.S. we do not have the same exact problems as the European Union, nor the same flawed designs of the European Central Bank — we do have the same problem of being dead broke as a nation.

Deeper in the hole than any civilization in history.

And once this sovereign debt crisis hits the U.S., I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the U.S. dollar will also get clobbered, eventually losing as much as 50% of its current purchasing power in international terms, and perhaps even more domestically.

To the point where someday in the not-too-distant future, the dollar may even cease to exist.

Think it can’t happen? Nearly 4,000 paper currencies have come and gone in the history of civilization, ending up as nothing more than a heap of garbage in the currency graveyard.

Naturally, over the next few years, the world’s currency system is going to go through wild gyrations. But long term, the financial crisis which started in real estate and is now migrating to sovereign debt, are merely the opening acts of …

**The Complete Collapse
Of The Current Fiat Monetary System. **

In reality, it’s been a slow motion collapse, all along. VIRTUALLY EVERY MAJOR CURRENCY ALIVE TODAY HAS BEEN LOSING PURCHASING POWER FOR DECADES.

The only difference between the last several decades of currency depreciation and what’s going to happen over the next few years in an accelerated plunge …

… is that now you are witnessing the death throes of that system, where the current fiat system effectively goes to ZERO value — giving birth to an entirely new world monetary order.

For now, in case you have any doubts about the collapse of fiat money, I’d like you to take a look at these four charts I have for you today from Topline Investment Graphics and SafeWealth.

Consider the 100-year plunge in the once mighty British pound …

The once iron-clad Swiss franc …

The Canadian dollar …

And the U.S. dollar …

Now making a beeline toward the same currency graveyard where nearly 4,000 other failed currencies lay dead before them.

The sovereign debt crisis? It is simply the trigger that will bring us from point A …

To point B: Complete reform of the world’s entire monetary system.

As many of you know, I have been on the leading edge of this forecast. In fact, I’ve been as right as rain on it, even predicting 10 years ago that a major monetary crisis would hit the world by the year 2012, causing a wholesale rewriting of all the “rules of the game,” as central bankers like to call them.

Eventually replacing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, and forcing the world into either a single world currency, or, at minimum, a single international currency for global trade.

A complete reform of the world’s monetary system is in the offing.
And last year, I warned the world how Bernanke was embracing the wholesale printing of an unlimited amount of dollars to try and solve the financial crisis, while knowing full well that it would rob American’s of their wealth.

The new monetary system you will see emerge in a few years time will be radically different from what we have today, and I’m drafting my own proposals to send to Washington to lay out its design, and which you will be amongst the first to see.
 
My first obligation is to try to do what I can to save myself and my family. The government now has more in common with Communist countries than with the ideals of the founding fathers.

My first business decision, with the reality of Obama Care, will be to close my perfectly good business and let all of my employees go. (I had 45 employees at one time.) I will be moving to a new city and for the first time in my life** I will not hire any employees! ** I refuse to pay the federal government in money and hassle for the privilege of hiring employees! This is a sound business decision, in my opinion. I will enjoy my work more and my firm will become more profitable since I will be 100% in production instead of being only a manager.
Oh where oh where is John Gault…???
 
Where can I start a business selling new cotton ropes? I might just want to use one myself now that I feel so hopeless.
 
Capitalism tempered by reasonable regulations preventing monopolization or abuse of workers is the best kind of economic system.
 
Where can I start a business selling new cotton ropes? I might just want to use one myself now that I feel so hopeless.
The only thing different than in 1929 is that the buildings are higher today. Be careful where you keep your treasure. Those who place their faith and hope in this world will become hopeless.
 
Capitalism tempered by reasonable regulations preventing monopolization or abuse of workers is the best kind of economic system.
The role of government is an umpire. Ufortunately, today’s government wants to be our “partner.”
 
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