The American Election

[AdamP88]

Trump won because the ordinary, everyday, average Joe is sick and tired of the nonsense spewed out by the left. One only has to take a look at the media’s reaction to trump to see how ridiculous these people are. In Irish newspapers over the last two days we’ve seen endless articles featuring sobbing women and “Gender Studies” lecturers who are paraded out to tell us that the end of the world is coming and women will be back to the days before they had a vote thanks to Trump.

These people have no idea what hit them and they don’t have the self awareness to realise that it’s actually their fault that people are voting for such candidates as Trump.

 

[PLinz]

He appears to be supporting racism

I’m curious how you came to this conclusion.

 

[PLinz]

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The comments about Catholics really made it clear to me who Hillary & Co. were.

 

[PLinz]

Beyond all that, the arrogance of the elites and pseudo-elites (e.g. actors), political correctness and identity politics (which is really, really backfiring on the Left), and the unending greed of the consultant class (which seems to gravitate towards the Left), has done a lot to drive Trump’s victory. Throw in insane amounts of corruption, hypocrisy, and a disconnect from reality, and you have a recipe for defeat. I’m in Portland at the moment, where nearly every window downtown seems to have been smashed by people shouting “peaceful protest” (that’s not a joke). It’s as if some asylum just opened its doors. I’m guessing that asylum is called “Portland State University”, but I could be wrong.

 

[Irishmom2]

Trump won because the ordinary, everyday, average Joe is sick and tired of the nonsense spewed out by the left. One only has to take a look at the media’s reaction to trump to see how ridiculous these people are. In Irish newspapers over the last two days we’ve seen endless articles featuring sobbing women and “Gender Studies” lecturers who are paraded out to tell us that the end of the world is coming and women will be back to the days before they had a vote thanks to Trump.

These people have no idea what hit them and they don’t have the self awareness to realise that it’s actually their fault that people are voting for such candidates as Trump.

Interesting that you can see this, but people here cannot.

 

[Anglewannabe]

I’m curious how you came to this conclusion.

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it

 

[Anglewannabe]

How about voting for the best candidate and quit with the gimmicks already.
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And that is a big part of my point. How I wish there would have been more coverage about all the actually policies and the studies behind them to prove it would be better for the country such as economic policies, infrastructure initiatives, health care (real health care for when poor people are sick not whether or not abortion should be funded), protection the environment etc

It almost seems like people just want the drama of a fight not intelligent debates

 

[josh987654321]

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it

You already have one, tones of money was spent on it, only it’s not a physical wall, it’s a wall that consists of interval towers that contain infrared, night vision etc, to monitor the border, but it’s outdated, impractical and apparently highly ineffective, I remember watching a documentary on it and how much money they wasted on it. They were talking about how they could use some new drones to monitor and protect the border (Which wouldn’t be a terrible idea, but it’s plagued with the same problems that infrared picks up animals and things as well, so it would be too hard to tell).

Whereas, even with a wall that would just stop animals going back and forth and things, it would probably greatly help with the infrared I believe, as then you differentiate people and animals by the ones who make it through the fence, as the animals wouldn’t go through the fence, but people could.

I have no idea what trump has in mind for a wall, size, etc, he would need to keep in mind that they tunnel under the border too, however, it’s not as silly as it sounds. Depends what he does, and even if he does build a full fledge wall, it’s not going to be a really bad thing.

Pope Francis remarks were for those ‘only’ thinking about building walls, not about the prohibition of walls and borders, which can at times be completely right and just. Trump is not ‘only’ thinking about building walls, and I highly suspect the main stream media played a large part in Pope Francis remarks by feeding him a certain narrative like they have the rest of the world about Trump so that Hillary Clinton could be elected.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[Anglewannabe]

As for the OP: killing innocent babies and making crude jokes are not equal evils. .

Since you name is Liam I will assume you are a male with no sympathy for what woman have to go through.

As a woman who has never been married nor had kids my heart bleeds for pregnant women. Society to this day has very little respect for pregnant women. eg asking a woman ‘when she is going to pop’ and that is one of the milder things I have seen them be asked. From a practical stand point, it is no wonder women don’t want to carry a pregnancy to term

Your statement put the cart in front of the horse. Once society really starts to respect women, the desire for abortion will decrease

 

[josh987654321]

Since you name is Liam I will assume you are a male with no sympathy for what woman have to go through.

I’m a male who doesn’t know what women go through in this regard, but I am adamantly against abortion nevertheless. It doesn’t mean I’m not sympathetic, it just means that I know abortion is not the answer.

As a woman who has never been married nor had kids my heart bleeds for pregnant women. Society to this day has very little respect for pregnant women. eg asking a woman ‘when she is going to pop’ and that is one of the milder things I have seen them be asked. From a practical stand point, it is no wonder women don’t want to carry a pregnancy to term

I have never heard comments like that and I agree that they are not good, but this doesn’t justify killing them (abortion) I believe.

Your statement put the cart in front of the horse. Once society really starts to respect women, the desire for abortion will decrease

I disagree, the cart and horse go together in this one, there is no cart before the horse analogy, hearts and minds against abortion, for pregnancy and the celebration of new life, need to be there no doubt, but abortion clinics also need to be shut down.

Your narrative is what the pro-abortionists keep saying to keep us quiet, the US is a capitalist economy, which means abortion clinics and providers such as Planned Parenthood, are also running a business, they make money through abortions (Which is why Planned Parenthood spent $30 Million dollars campaigning for Clinton), which means women will be encouraged to have them as $ Dollars are to be made out of it, this is unacceptable.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[josh987654321]

You already have one,

You said you were from Canada, and it’s too late for me to edit this post, please just read it as ‘the USA’ instead of ‘You’

Thank you.

 

[pensmama87]

And that is a big part of my point. How I wish there would have been more coverage about all the actually policies and the studies behind them to prove it would be better for the country such as economic policies, infrastructure initiatives, health care (real health care for when poor people are sick not whether or not abortion should be funded), protection the environment etc

It almost seems like people just want the drama of a fight not intelligent debates

I don’t think there’s any “almost seems” about it.

I’d love coverage like that, too. But instead any analysis stops at “what points appeal to which voting demographics?” not “what policies might actually work and why.”

 

[heidi_storage]

Since you name is Liam I will assume you are a male with no sympathy for what woman have to go through.

As a woman who has never been married nor had kids my heart bleeds for pregnant women. Society to this day has very little respect for pregnant women. eg asking a woman ‘when she is going to pop’ and that is one of the milder things I have seen them be asked. From a practical stand point, it is no wonder women don’t want to carry a pregnancy to term

Your statement put the cart in front of the horse. Once society really starts to respect women, the desire for abortion will decrease

Mmmm-hmmm. How does this sound? “Since your name is Angie, I assume you are a female with no sympathy for what men have to go through.” It isn’t kind to dismiss people simply because they are a particular sex.

Addressing your main thought: Your heart isn’t literally bleeding, however, and neither are the hearts of pregnant women. Defenseless babies, on the other hand…

From a practical standpoint, I can absolutely understand why some people rob banks, commit fraud, etc. Doesn’t make it any less wrong, and these are considerably less repugnant acts than killing small children. Can you really equate crude remarks with ending human lives?

I didn’t vote for either candidate; I think Trump’s immoral, not all that competent, and an egomaniac. It worries me that he’ll be our head of state, and I’m worried that he’s going to do longterm damage to conservatism. Frankly, I doubt he’s actually all that pro-life, either. Nevertheless, I am glad that the candidate who promised to repeal the Hyde Amendment (the one that prohibits fedeal dollars from directly funding abortion) has been defeated.

Certainly, legislation is not going to change people’s hearts on abortion, but it is nice that abortion won’t be actively encouraged and funded by our next president.

 

[Usige]

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it

I don’t think that is racist so much as protectionist. If Canada had a huge flood US citizens that entered the country illegally and refused to leave don’t you think Canada would say the US has some responsibility for the control of the border just as much as Canada?

The problem is that Mexico has made little effort to controll the border and seems to simply shrug that it’s an issue. I’m sure our neighbors to the North would have issues if I and a couple million friends simply moved into Canada and said it was our right to stay even if we don’t score enough points on the Canadian immigration score card.

Nations have a right to protect their borders. It should be mutual, but when one party simply looks the other way it is not racist to take more concrete measures to protect those borders.

 

[Allegra]

Is it really brainwashing to believe that a third party candidate, at the present time, is simply unelectable?

I’m sorry, but until I see one shred of solid evidence that a third party can remotely come close to even 30,000,000 popular votes, I will continue to find that particular option to be naive and untenable in reality.

As for the OP: killing innocent babies and making crude jokes are not equal evils. Wanting to enforce immigration laws is not racism. In fact, have a listen to Jesse Romero talking about the spiritual dangers of illegal immigration, of the real damage in Mexican lives that’s being caused: catholic.com/radio/shows/the-spiritual-implications-of-illegal-immigration-6984.

And by the way, when those leftists who were pretending to be shocked at Trump’s sexual language make one political move against the pornography industry, then they can be taken seriously and not seen as being hypocrites who use poll-tested tested buzzwords to engage in real brainwashing.

As long as people say, “I won’t vote for a third party candidate because they won’t win.” Then we’ll never have a viable third party. That attitude is the only thing stopping us from having a party that we can vote for without feeling dirty afterward. It would probably take a few election cycles for a third party to get enough support to win, but if everyone refuses to even consider them, just because they aren’t currently as powerful, then how will they get support to become more powerful?

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

As long as people say, “I won’t vote for a third party candidate because they won’t win.” Then we’ll never have a viable third party. That attitude is the only thing stopping us from having a party that we can vote for without feeling dirty afterward. It would probably take a few election cycles for a third party to get enough support to win, but if everyone refuses to even consider them, just because they aren’t currently as powerful, then how will they get support to become more powerful?

I agree.

Just for an example, in my county in 2012 only about 1200 votes went to a third party. This time 20,000 with 4600 write ins. Lots of us couldn’t just go with either one.

 

[Usige]

As long as people say, “I won’t vote for a third party candidate because they won’t win.” Then we’ll never have a viable third party. That attitude is the only thing stopping us from having a party that we can vote for without feeling dirty afterward. It would probably take a few election cycles for a third party to get enough support to win, but if everyone refuses to even consider them, just because they aren’t currently as powerful, then how will they get support to become more powerful?

The problem is more an issue that 3rd parties rarely run at the lowest levels of government (town councils, county, district and state government). Until there are proven successes at the foundational levels I don’t think there will be enough support at the natonal level.

The way that 3rd party will get a chance is by proving the ability to govern locally first and across broad areas. This might have to start at a regional level first. Once they get broad support at local levels they will have to have success at the state level. Not just one or two, but dozens of people in different parts of the country. Only once people see that they are not a flash in the pan would there be broad support for 3rd parties at a national level.

I know that seems to suck, but 3rd parties tend to fail because there are either one trick ponies like the Green Party or people simply don’t think that there is any longevity. Until people have seen a party having some success governing many people will simply not take the risk that the position will be ineffectual.

 

[AClaire11]

The only third party candidate on my ballot that I agreed with was McMullin. Why would I vote for someone who isn’t even on the ballot in many other states?

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Since you name is Liam I will assume you are a male with no sympathy for what woman have to go through.

As a woman who has never been married nor had kids my heart bleeds for pregnant women. Society to this day has very little respect for pregnant women. eg asking a woman ‘when she is going to pop’ and that is one of the milder things I have seen them be asked. From a practical stand point, it is no wonder women don’t want to carry a pregnancy to term

Your statement put the cart in front of the horse. Once society really starts to respect women, the desire for abortion will decrease

This post does not lead to rational discussion. I’ve known your posting a long time. You know better.

Please stop with the sexism.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it

That has nothing to do with race. Our country has a right to define its geography and keep its citizens safe and even define its citizens. So does every other country. Is New Zealand racist for not having any immigration?

The southern border is unique and its problems are as well. Good people are dying on both sides of it.

Who do you think should be allowed to come in and live in the USA and why?

One has to wonder for claiming not to follow the election and seeming to start this thread with a question you seem to have been fed some slanted “news”.

It could be that Canada has a journalism problem just like the us does.

Where are you getting this info because while you tried to couch it in an open minded question it really just boils down to misinformation and the same old tired slant.

Racism
Women (which somehow gets turned into how abortion isn’t that bad)
And a character assassination.

Soon the mods will extend to Trump the same protection as the current president has on CAF and people will have to have more charity.