The American Election

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Whereas, even with a wall that would just stop animals going back and forth and things, it would probably greatly help with the infrared I believe, as then you differentiate people and animals by the ones who make it through the fence, as the animals wouldn’t go through the fence, but people could.
LOL, please ignore this, such a stupid thing for me to say, idk what I was thinking, as if animals can’t be on either side already. :doh2:

I do stick by the rest of the post though lol

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I haven’t managed to read the whole thread, yet, but has anyone mentioned that Hillary is more of a racist than Donald? She plays the race card masterfully, and manipulates important minorities such as Blacks and Hispanics for her own political benefit.

And has anyone mentioned that although he **said **deplorable things about women, we have solid evidence that Hillary **did **terrible things, such as cover up Bill’s rapes, and win court cases to protect a rapist from the law after the evidence was very clear he was guilty?
 
Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it
Please explain your thought process. That is, please explain how you’ve connected wall-building with racism. Also, can you please do this in the context of all border walls around the world?
 
I haven’t managed to read the whole thread, yet, but has anyone mentioned that Hillary is more of a racist than Donald? She plays the race card masterfully, and manipulates important minorities such as Blacks and Hispanics for her own political benefit.

And has anyone mentioned that although he **said **deplorable things about women, we have solid evidence that Hillary **did **terrible things, such as cover up Bill’s rapes, and win court cases to protect a rapist from the law after the evidence was very clear he was guilty?
The many materials from Wikileaks, and various other sources (e.g. interviews), makes it perfectly clear that minorities in the United States are a voting block and nothing more for the Democrats.

For example:

“Attached is a script for a new video we’d like to use to mop up some more taco bowl engagement, and demonstrate the Trump actually isn’t trying.”

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5492
 
other sins (such as using loopholes to not pay taxes which is theft)
I’d like to just address this one claim. It is not a sin to avail yourself of the tax code. It’s not really fair to refer to these deductions as loopholes. He took advantage of the law as it is written. Everyone else in America, including Hillary Clinton, takes advantage of all the deductions they are entitled to. To claim a legal tax deduction to lower your taxes is not a sin nor is it theft. I have middle income clients who use these same types of deductions–if they were not standard, legal deductions we would not claim them. They are used by tens of thousands of taxpayers every year. To claim a deduction or deferal allowed by the tax code is not immoral, nor is it a sin, nor is it theft. The IRS audits taxpayers to make sure they are not claiming deductions they are not allowed to and that they are reporting all the revenue that they receive–I have had clients who upon audit have actually received a refund from the IRS because it was discovered that they missed a deduction they were entitled to as they went through their records to substantiate their deductions to the auditor.

There are plenty of things to criticize Donald Trump for–this just is not one of them. The average taxpayer critizing Donald Trump for this should look in the mirrow and ask themselves if they consider their mortgage interest or property tax or charitable contribution deductions “loopholes” making the guilty of sin and theft–or if rather they are claiming legal deductions the IRS tells them they are entitled to claim.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
Never underestimate the Redness of America’s neck.
And look how that neck just spun it’s “brains” the other way. 😉

Not sure if you meant redneck as a insult, but if you did, being a redneck is not a bad thing in many people’s mind. It means you put your hesd down and work hard despite the sun beating on your neck and shoulders.

I will assume in charity that you are recognizing those Americans who work hard in Middle America are just as valuabble a part of the country as anyone in an office or anywhere else. 👍
 
Well, the first thing that comes to mind is building a wall and making Mexico pay for it
Perhaps you should take a look at your Canadian immigration policy and what is done with illegal immigrants. I don’t see Canada opening the door wide to anyone who wishes to come there, and I don’t see Canada failing to deport those who they find are there illegally. Yet we don’t call you racist or bigoted for that. While I am not in favor of the wall (unless they want to build something like the Great Wall of China that might become a tourist attraction and might be fun to walk)–I don’t see how it’s all that much different from the patchwork of walls and fences we currently have in an attempt to keep people from entering the United States illegally. All the hoopla and recriminations about the wall seem to be much ado about nothing. When did being against illegal immigration (I think you’ll find most Canadians are also against it from what I read) become being anti-immigration? They are not the same thing.

While my immigration thoughts put me out of touch with most (I’d tend to favor much less restriction)–I’m just tired of other countries that restrict immigration, deport illegal immigrants looking at the wall proposal, which is designed to assist in accomplishing that goal–calling its proponents racist. I am sick and tired of Democrats, of whom the current president is one, and who is having our border agents stop people at the border from entering illegally, who uses the current fences and walls and who has deported a large number of illegal immigrants–calling someone proposing to continue doing the same thing, and making it harder to enter the country illegally–a racist. I think words like bigot and racist have been so overused by the Democrats and much of the media that the words have been rendered almost meaningless. I mean when wearing a sombrero for halloween can get you labeled a racist–what does the word really mean anymore? It used to mean someone who believed that a particular race was superior to another–perhaps we should reserve using the word for people who really hold that belief.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
Since you name is Liam I will assume you are a male with no sympathy for what woman have to go through.
Why would you assume he can have no sympathy simply because he is a man? If a man made a similar claim as this regarding a woman–he’d be tarred and feathered as a sexist or a misogynist.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
However, as a Catholic who thinks abortion is wrong, I am amazed that this would be sufficient reason to vote for Trump. He appears to be supporting racism, which IMO is just as sinful.
I believe that actually supporting the murder of millions of people is worse than “appearing to support racism.”
 
Why would you assume he can have no sympathy simply because he is a man? If a man made a similar claim as this regarding a woman–he’d be tarred and feathered as a sexist or a misogynist.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
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I believe that actually supporting the murder of millions of people is worse than “appearing to support racism.”
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And look how that neck just spun it’s “brains” the other way. 😉

Not sure if you meant redneck as a insult, but if you did, being a redneck is not a bad thing in many people’s mind. It means you put your hesd down and work hard despite the sun beating on your neck and shoulders.

I will assume in charity that you are recognizing those Americans who work hard in Middle America are just as valuabble a part of the country as anyone in an office or anywhere else. 👍
Oh absolutely! Especially the ones with raised trucks and Confederate flags. I think a few rednecks in North Carolina were celebrating the election. I assume it was kind of chilly so their long pointy hoods definitely came in handy.
 
America’s or just the Americans who struggle with hidden racism?
I’m a trump supporter in a red state. I support a secure border. I don’t know any racists though. I guess they are hidden pretty well.
 
Is it really brainwashing to believe that a third party candidate, at the present time, is simply unelectable?

I’m sorry, but until I see one shred of solid evidence that a third party can remotely come close to even 30,000,000 popular votes, I will continue to find that particular option to be naive and untenable in reality.

As for the OP: killing innocent babies and making crude jokes are not equal evils. Wanting to enforce immigration laws is not racism. In fact, have a listen to Jesse Romero talking about the spiritual dangers of illegal immigration, of the real damage in Mexican lives that’s being caused: catholic.com/radio/shows/the-spiritual-implications-of-illegal-immigration-6984.

And by the way, when those leftists who were pretending to be shocked at Trump’s sexual language make one political move against the pornography industry, then they can be taken seriously and not seen as being hypocrites who use poll-tested tested buzzwords to engage in real brainwashing.
There were some third party candidates that were electable, and that were qualified, from what I saw during the election season.

Some of them were not on the ballots in every state.

Evan McMullin wasn’t for example, and I don’t believe that Darrell Castle was, either.

Darrell Castle was pro-life, for the Constitution Party. He was running from Tennessee. He was on the ballot here in my state of Wisconsin.

As election time was unfolding and more and more candidates were withdrawing from the candidacy for both major parties, I was thinking that it probably just came down to money and campaign funds, and that they just didn’t have enough money to keep on going.

I think that it was probably the same way for the third party candidates, too. They just didn’t have the necessary funding to keep going, and to advertise, too.

I’m sure that all of us see it all of the time with our state and local elections, too, when it comes to the primaries. You’ll see some really great candidates running for different offices, but they just don’t have the funds to keep advertising. You don’t hear of them too much, and they don’t get too many votes and then you don’t see them again after the primary elections are over.
 
So as to not derail another thread, I am starting this one. I am Canadian so my country is very much affected by whatever goes on in the states. Our main political concern is the renegotiation of free trade and the impact that will have on our economy.

However, as a Catholic who thinks abortion is wrong, I am amazed that this would be sufficient reason to vote for Trump. He appears to be supporting racism, which IMO is just as sinful. So I really DON"T understand how the simply fact he believes abortion is wrong is justification in letting him get away with his other sins (such as using loopholes to not pay taxes which is theft)

Also, as a woman, I am floored that any women would vote for a man who jokes about sexually assaulting women. That is very concerning to me. How does saving a baby justify assaulting a woman :confused:

But from where I am sitting, the saddest part of the whole election was the only thing I ever saw was two people insult each other like immature kids. I can’t remember seeing either one of them on TV explaining their campaign on things like economic policies and providing well researched arguments on how that would benefit the future of America.

It’s like I told everyone at work. I didn’t bother watching the election because if I wanted that kind of drama I would watch the bachelor

NOTE: I don’t watch Canadian elections either 😃
So, who would you have had us vote for? It was between Clinton and Trump.Nobody else had a chance at all.

How does saving a baby justify assaulting a woman? Who said that??? Nobody. But if I have to play devils advocate, listen… A woman can survive a assault (I am not saying that sexual assault is not a big deal, so do not go there with me anyone) So many Mexicans are worried about being deported (I am Mexican american BTW) but as sad as it would be for some folks to get deported, they have a chance AT LIFE. How can a unborn baby defend itself? It cannot. It does not have a chance. Trump is not going to make laws or appoint people who will pass laws that it is okay to assault women, Hillary will support pro abortion laws increasing the number of babies who do not get to get a chance at life.

Two candidates… Must vote for one.
 
I believe that actually supporting the murder of millions of people is worse than “appearing to support racism.”
I agree. And Trump is not even racist. He may be a little prejudice (I am not defending him for that) but racist? He hates Mexicans? I am Mexican and I do not think so. He tried to Date Salma Hayek for crying out loud 😛

Trying to secure our borders is not racist. I doubt very much that he is against hard working immigrants to this country whether Mexican, Muslim, gay, straight or whatever as long as they are law abiding citizens that contribute to the good of this country.
 
Trump won because the ordinary, everyday, average Joe is sick and tired of the nonsense spewed out by the left. One only has to take a look at the media’s reaction to trump to see how ridiculous these people are. In Irish newspapers over the last two days we’ve seen endless articles featuring sobbing women and “Gender Studies” lecturers who are paraded out to tell us that the end of the world is coming and women will be back to the days before they had a vote thanks to Trump.

These people have no idea what hit them and they don’t have the self awareness to realise that it’s actually their fault that people are voting for such candidates as Trump.
I disagree. They voted for him because he is not political and is brash and ‘says it like it is’. Remember trump won the primaries too and he was against conservatives.

I am definitely not left and I’m shocked. Anyone else would have been destroyed by any of the things he said. Your be forced to resign from Parliament in the UK for far less.
 
Perhaps you should take a look at your Canadian immigration policy and what is done with illegal immigrants. I don’t see Canada opening the door wide to anyone who wishes to come there, and I don’t see Canada failing to deport those who they find are there illegally. Yet we don’t call you racist or bigoted for that. While I am not in favor of the wall (unless they want to build something like the Great Wall of China that might become a tourist attraction and might be fun to walk)–I don’t see how it’s all that much different from the patchwork of walls and fences we currently have in an attempt to keep people from entering the United States illegally. All the hoopla and recriminations about the wall seem to be much ado about nothing. When did being against illegal immigration (I think you’ll find most Canadians are also against it from what I read) become being anti-immigration? They are not the same thing.

While my immigration thoughts put me out of touch with most (I’d tend to favor much less restriction)–I’m just tired of other countries that restrict immigration, deport illegal immigrants looking at the wall proposal, which is designed to assist in accomplishing that goal–calling its proponents racist. I am sick and tired of Democrats, of whom the current president is one, and who is having our border agents stop people at the border from entering illegally, who uses the current fences and walls and who has deported a large number of illegal immigrants–calling someone proposing to continue doing the same thing, and making it harder to enter the country illegally–a racist. I think words like bigot and racist have been so overused by the Democrats and much of the media that the words have been rendered almost meaningless. I mean when wearing a sombrero for halloween can get you labeled a racist–what does the word really mean anymore? It used to mean someone who believed that a particular race was superior to another–perhaps we should reserve using the word for people who really hold that belief.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
Nobody has a problem with immigration policies.

They have a problem with implying that illegal immigrants are the bad guys (they aren’t, the employers taking advantage of them are), stereotyping entire races in very negative ways and suggesting that an entire religion be banned from your country.

The undertones are read as ‘No Irish/Mexicans/Muslims/Non Americans need apply’. Now trump might not mean that, of course, but that is how it is read.
 
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