How do you know this? Are you against cheetah chasing down antelope because the poor wittle antelope might get scared? If it’s OK for one sentient being to hunt down and kill another animal for food, why is it wrong for another to do so?
Based on this principle, hunting is immoral because it is cruel.
Can you please prove that animals have emotions? Do all animals have emotions? How have they expressed their emotions? I can understand fear and pain but talking about emotions is just a load of nonsense.
based on that principle, farming is cruel.
The worst part about the video clip in that article is that it take that lady 2 shots to finish the hog off.After having read through this thread I recall an episode of EWTN’s show Faith and Culture where the subject of Animal Rights vs. Animal Welfare was discussed. I would like to site some information I came across since which I think will shed light on the member **spencelo’s **perspective:
I grew up in a Central Illinois farm community and know many hunters, many are in my family although I’ve never hunted before. I 100% support hunting as I’ve been in multiple vehicle accidents involving deer, in fact I bought a new Honda Civic in 2001 and got hit by deer (meaning that the deer literally ran into my car while running across the road) three times within my first month of ownership. I refer to my mom’s GMC Envoy as the “deer slayer” as she’s been in three front-end-destroying collisions with deer over the past year.
That being said I am a fan of the A&E TV show American Hoggers and came across a TMZ article just today that speaks of how PETA is protesting the show due to the extremely violent nature of feral hog hunting. Personally if PETA has as much (if not more) of a problem with feral hog hunting as the people affected by feral hogs have with feral hogs, than perhaps they should assemble the PETA army and go to Texas and elsewhere where feral hogs are devastating the land and people’s lives so to deal with it the way they see fit. Although I doubt they’d leave their urban existance to do anything other than gripe about it over the internet, those pigs are probably to stinky for them to deal with anyway
Read at your own risk: tmz.com/2011/10/22/american-hoggers-under-attack-for-ultra-violent-pig-slaughter/
That’s what the evidence tells us. Do you have knowledge to the contrary? Please cite your sources for the proposition that plants can suffer, feel terror and anxiety, stress, pleasure and joy.
What the cheetah does is bad but not immoral – cheetah simply doesn’t know any better, and he needs to do it to survive. If I had things my way, I would drive predators to extinction if there would be less suffering in the world.
Some farming undoubtedly is.
Gladly.
If there were no predators, the herbivorous species would overcrowd until they faced mass starvation.
we should be inclusive of all taxons at that rank. animal hunting, cruel. farming plants, cruel. farming fungi, cruel; harvesting protists, archaea, and bacteria, cruel.
Some farming is cruel, not all. I was simply quoting a “principle” of animal welfare: “that animals should be treated well and that animal cruelty is wrong.” Do you agree with this principle? If so, then you should be against hunting. If not, then I don’t see how you can be against torturing dogs for fun.
I don’t see how you could support the vicious, inhumane harvesting of protists without regards to their feelings.
The explanation is quite simply: they aren’t sentient–they don’t feel pain, terror, anxiety, fear, anguish, sadness, grief, or the other wide variety of emotions that hunted animals do.
In other words, because God gave humans the license to be cruel to animals, that’s okay?
I dunno - people who talk to plants reckon they grow better, so some people think plants have feelings.
I think eating meat is wrong in general, because we do not need to torture and kill animals for food. Neither do we need to hunt them. But I’m glad you agree that recreational hunting is wrong.
I see… a value-bias against some life – God’s own creation – based on your personal and wholly arbitrary standards. life unworthy of life.
The hunters I know avoid making the animal suffer. A kill that isn’t quick is considered a ‘bad kill’.
