Depends on who is hunting. When coyotes and hawks attack - yes it is terrifying and painful for the prey. When my 150 grain 30-06 slug strikes an animal in the head at 2000+ feet per second I don’t think they feel a thing.
I never knew so many hunters hunted deer in the middle of the night. Usually during mating season the deer chase each other onto roads.
But again, it’s not just the killing - it’s the whole hunting process.
Perhaps they should have THC in their salt licks?
That what happened when that 8 pt buck killed my daughters Nissan Versa. She was alright Thank God.
You can put up as many psycobabble and faux science blogs you want, but it isn’t going to change a thing. Most people do, and will continue to eat meat. You’re beating a dead horse.
Does the dead horse feel pain?
Because most people don’t equate animals to humans. They see a distinction between the two that animal rights activists don’t seem to see.
No, but I’m sure it’s cruel.Does the dead horse feel pain?
Agreed.Because most people don’t equate animals to humans. They see a distinction between the two that animal rights activists don’t seem to see.
You know in reality we don’t know that animals really DO feel anything. For all we know they could be reacting purely instinctively and we’re projecting emotions upon them that they aren’t even feeling. Which is why I say, when they develop the ability to speak to me and reason with me, I will stop hunting them. As it is they have not shown themselves to be equal to humans. They just haven’t.
I think most animal rights activists see animals as superior to humans. I think some would travel miles to take a thorn from a dogs paw, but would do nothing if a human were bleeding to death in front of them.Because most people don’t equate animals to humans. They see a distinction between the two that animal rights activists don’t seem to see.
You know in reality we don’t know that animals really DO feel anything. For all we know they could be reacting purely instinctively and we’re projecting emotions upon them that they aren’t even feeling. Which is why I say, when they develop the ability to speak to me and reason with me, I will stop hunting them. As it is they have not shown themselves to be equal to humans. They just haven’t.
Sometimes I fear that this is true. Especially when the extremists advocate violence towards humans but work zealously to protect an animal. :dts:
What’s your basis for this claim? The animal rights/liberation philosophy as articulated by the intellectuals of the “movement” – which is by no mean unified – does not claim that animals are superior to humans. I invite you to cite a *single *quote from any well-known activist who espouses this view.
He did not qualify with ‘well known’ activists. He (and myself) were speaking about the activists you’ll meet on the streets. The ones who are most vocal outside of your academic realms.
He said “most animal rights activists,” which implies a majority. I have never met or heard of a single self-described animal rights activist who would claim that animals are superior than humans. I think this is a convenient myth that critics find comforting, because that enables them to rationalize not taking the underlying issues seriously.He did not qualify with ‘well known’ activists. He (and myself) were speaking about the activists you’ll meet on the streets. The ones who are most vocal outside of your academic realms.
Just as extremist Christians give all Christianity a bad name, these extremist activists give your movement a bad name as well.
i’d fall out out of my tree stand. :stretcher:
You keep insinuating your critics are ill informed and this is the only reason they’re critics.
When critics say or imply that animals don’t feel pain or experience emotions, that factory farming isn’t cruel, that hunting doesn’t cause animals to suffer, that “most animal rights activists” think animals are superior to humans, or that vegans are “militant,” I can’t help but reasonably conclude that they are extremely misinformed.
When people’s life experiences are contradicted by irrefutable and rationally undeniable evidence, then I side with the evidence. As for your latter statement, I never made the assumption that my critics must be idiots. Very smart people can be poorly misinformed as well.
I can’t speak to the activists you’ve met, but it’s entirely possible that you are misinterpreting what they said (perhaps due to being uncharitable), which is plausible in light of your inherent biases against animal rights/liberation philosophy. Then again I don’t know.
