the assumption of the Virgin Mary

[Des]

How is my interpretation self contradicting? And why is it poor? If you will read the verse a little closer. It tells us that the body plus the breath of God makes a living soul.

You seriously are forcing that verse to mean what you want it to say. All it says is without a living soul the body is nothing. The soul or spirit is what’s alive and made in the image of God. Not the body. The soul is the focal point.

Sirach 10:31:* My son, keep thy soul in meekness, and give it honour according to its desert.*

Mk 8: 36-37:* For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world and suffer the loss of his soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul:*

Sirach 10:32:* Who will justify him that sinneth against his own soul? and who will honour him that dishonoureth his own soul?*

You are right that the body does not have to be united with the breath of God. But if it isn’t it’s called a corpse.

Exactly my point. The soul does not have to be asleep just because the body is now a corpse. Your Genesis verse in no way proves that unless you make it.

We know that Moses was taken to heaven because we see him on the mount of transfiguration.

I never asked for proof that Moses was in Heaven. I asked where it says both His body and soul was in Heaven? Nowhere can you find a verse in the Bible that states this. As a matter of fact, all it says is that His tomb was hidden from the eyes of flesh and blood.
You assume this because of your already faulty preconceived notion that the soul cannot exist without the body.

The bible tells us that both body and soul can be destroyed in hell . Matt10:28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

This does not contradict Catholic Doctrine. We believe in the 2nd coming and likewise everyone both in Heaven and Hell getting new physical bodies.

And don’t get me wrong. Unlike the Angles, we were created with the intention of having a body. However, being in spirit form only while waiting for our new bodies in no way is contradictive to Sacred Scripture or Sacred Tradition.

1 Peter 3:18-19
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison.

Matthew 22:31-32
have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?” God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Genesis 35:18
And when her soul was departing for pain, and death was now at hand, she called the name of her son Benoni, that is, The son of my pain: but his father called him Benjamin, that is, The son of the right hand

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Also Richard, in the bible Jesus himself talks about the real presence and you can’t get much earlier than that!

John 6:53-58, 66-67
“So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.’ After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him. Jesus said to the twelve, ‘Will you also go away?’”

He was obviouslt talking about the real presence here

It may be obvious to you because you have succumbed to the indoctrination of heresies of the CC.
Jn1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jn6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus is telling them to feast on THE WORD OF GOD.

because he did not say to the disciples that no longer “went about with him”, “hey, wait a minute i didn’t mean for you take it literally, it was just symbolic, or spiritual”. They understood exactly what he was saying but they rejected it.

Most of them didn’t understand. That’s why they left. Peter and the twelve did understand. That’s why we hear him say in Jn6:68Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Jesus often talked in parables without explaining Himself. He did this to weed out the rif raf. Consider Matt 13:10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

 

[jam070406]

It may be obvious to you because you have succumbed to the indoctrination of heresies of the CC.
Jn1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jn6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus is telling them to feast on THE WORD OF GOD.

Most of them didn’t understand. That’s why they left. Peter and the twelve did understand. That’s why we hear him say in Jn6:68Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Jesus often talked in parables without explaining Himself. He did this to weed out the rif raf. Consider Matt 13:10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Catholics do feast on the Word of God. Jesus is the Word and… is present body, blood, soul & divinity in the Eucharist.
Jesus also said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you.
He also said to abide in Him. And those that abide in Him (and He in them) are those that eat His flesh and drink His blood, and He will lift them up on the last day
When you partake of the Eucharist you are partaking in the Jesus, the Way, the Truth & the Life.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

May I ask you how you know when the Holy Spirit is leading you into the proper context and interpretation of the Bible? Are you now claiming infallibility on everything you’re saying here regarding soul sleep for example? Are you saying Protestants who are ‘praying’ to the Holy Spirit before they read are wrong if they do not believe in soul sleep and being mislead yet you are the one without a doubt being directed to believe this understanding? How is anyone to know who’s right? Why should I believe you if I pray to the Holy Spirit yet come out with a different interpretation? You seriously think God is going to lead us into a path of confusion after He commanded his Apostles to teach all the world? That’s His divine plan? To have the body of believers bicker on things that should have been solved 2000 years ago? And a year from now the same thing. And 10 years from now the same thing. And a hundred years from now it happens again over and over and over till Christ returns. Nobody knows where to look except in themselves and hope ‘this time’ the Holy Spirit is leading them. That’s insanity man!

I’m not claiming to be infallable. I don’t want anyone to follow me. I’m a sinner and even unworthy to be preaching the gospel. It’s the word of God that I want to get people to follow.
Isaiah8:19And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
20To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If the word of man conflicts with the word of God. The word of man must be altered, not the word of God.

He wasn’t talking about real flesh. He was talking about the natural inclinations brought about by fallen man.

This is not the CC’s position. At least not the way I’ve seen it expressed on this forum. The official position seems to be that Jesus is instituting the so called eucharist in
Jn6:53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. I’m saying He is telling us to feast on His word.

Are you saying that Jesus’ Flesh never profited us? His fleshy body dying meant nothing to you? To put it bluntly, if there was no flesh to die Christ could not have been crucified for us.

Whoa! Hold on here brother these are not my words. these are quoted directly from the bible. Here’s Jn6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the **flesh **profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. The word flesh that Jesus is talking about here is not His flesh.

Galations 5:17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

This is what Jesus is talking about when He said “the flesh propheteth nothing”. The flesh that He talks about in Jn 6:53 is explained in Jn1: 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

In just about everything you post.

This doesn’t help much could you be more specific.

 

[Des]

I’m not claiming to be infallable. I don’t want anyone to follow me. I’m a sinner and even unworthy to be preaching the gospel. It’s the word of God that I want to get people to follow.
Isaiah8:19And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
20To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If the word of man conflicts with the word of God. The word of man must be altered, not the word of God.

You cannot just sit your Bible down on the table and have it preach to you and clarify it’s teachings. You interpret your Bible therefore you likewise speak on it’s behalf. If you interpret wrongly then you preach another word, not of God. So please stop telling us what the Word of God is saying ok. Unless you personally have the promise of God to lead you into all truths. And unless of course your truths are both grounded and upheld by a Pillar.

This is not the CC’s position. At least not the way I’ve seen it expressed on this forum. The official position seems to be that Jesus is instituting the so called Eucharist in
Jn6:53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. I’m saying He is telling us to feast on His word.

The CC is correct. I was talking about that verse in particular and I’m certain you knew that.

Whoa! Hold on here brother these are not my words. these are quoted directly from the bible. Here’s Jn6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the **flesh **profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. The word flesh that Jesus is talking about here is not His flesh

Then do not use it as a defense against the Holy Eucharist of which is Christ’s Body and Blood and profits us greatly.

This is what Jesus is talking about when He said “the flesh propheteth nothing”. The flesh that He talks about in Jn 6:53 is explained in Jn1: 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus was talking about the flesh of sinful man or dead flesh not profiting anything. As a matter of fact, that verse assists even further of what he was saying regarding the Eucharist and His own Flesh and how unique and special a gift it is.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

You seriously are forcing that verse to mean what you want it to say. All it says is without a living soul the body is nothing. The soul or spirit is what’s alive and made in the image of God. Not the body. The soul is the focal point.

It says what it says. I’m not forcing anything.

Exactly my point. The soul does not have to be asleep just because the body is now a corpse. Your Genesis verse in no way proves that unless you make it.

Ok, lets try it this way. Suppose you want to build a box. You get yourself some boards and nails and you start banging away. Pretty soon you have a box. There was no box before you put the boards together with the nails. Ok, suppose now you want to take the box apart. You pull all the nails and set them aside. You also set the boards aside. Do you still have a box? No. Where is the box? It ceases to exist. It’s the same with the soul. Which is the combination of the Spirit or breath of God with a body when either one is not present the soul ceases to exist.

I never asked for proof that Moses was in Heaven. I asked where it says both His body and soul was in Heaven? Nowhere can you find a verse in the Bible that states this. As a matter of fact, all it says is that His tomb was hidden from the eyes of flesh and blood.

1After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Moses and Elijah are here with Jesus. They are alive, therefore they are there in their soul.

You assume this because of your already faulty preconceived notion that the soul cannot exist without the body.

How is this faulty or preconceived? Just reading what’s in the bible.
Consider this in light of what I just said in bold above.

This does not contradict Catholic Doctrine. We believe in the 2nd coming and likewise everyone both in Heaven and Hell getting new physical bodies.

Well not exactly. We are only issued one body and it is this body (after an overhaul) that we will take into eternity.

51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

And don’t get me wrong. Unlike the Angles, we were created with the intention of having a body. However, being in spirit form only while waiting for our new bodies in no way is contradictive to Sacred Scripture or Sacred Tradition.

Angels have bodies they are just spiritual bodies, like we will have after we are resurrected

1 Peter 3:18-19
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison.

Matthew 22:31-32
have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?” God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Genesis 35:18
And when her soul was departing for pain, and death was now at hand, she called the name of her son Benoni, that is, The son of my pain: but his father called him Benjamin, that is, The son of the right hand

Mabe if you explain what you are getting at with these sciptures I can give a response

 

[occupant]

Well, what the bible actually says does not seem to bear out what you say. I have seen Catholics bring up this passage ad infinitum as proof that Jesus set Peter up as the head of His church on earth. Nothing could be further from the truth. The trouble is they always seem to start at verse 18. When the passage really starts at verse 13. Here is the entire passage:

13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

i stopped reading posts after i read this part so if someone addressed this, i’m sorry.
but richard, you are wrong.
the reason Christ founded the Church on peter is because nobody, except peter, was given knowledge of Christ Divinity up to this point. God set peter out ahead of all other apostles right there.

 

[occupant]

also, richard, do you fast?

 

[Peter_J]

Thanks. Unfortunately I don’t have time to look at it tonight, but if it shows the early church fathers agreed on the infallibility of the Pope, then that really is incredible.

Having now had a chance to look at it, I think I can safely say that the webpage in question has some good quotes, but does not by any means do what was advertised. (I guess it illustrates the saying “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true.” )

 

[Des]

It says what it says. I’m not forcing anything.

Incorrect. It says the living soul came into existence because ‘God Breathed’ it into existence. It says nothing about the necessity of a soul at all times needing a body.

**

Ok, lets try it this way. Suppose you want to build a box. You get yourself some boards and nails and you start banging away. Pretty soon you have a box. There was no box before you put the boards together with the nails. Ok, suppose now you want to take the box apart. You pull all the nails and set them aside. You also set the boards aside. Do you still have a box? No. Where is the box? It ceases to exist. It’s the same with the soul. Which is the combination of the Spirit or breath of God with a body when either one is not present the soul ceases to exist.

** You’re forming an analogy from your opinion. That is all that is.

1After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Moses and Elijah are here with Jesus. They are alive, therefore they are there in their soul.

Again, where does it say Moses had a body? I can play the same game and say because Jesus saw Moses, it was his spirit He saw because he was alive.

How is this faulty or preconceived? Just reading what’s in the bible.

You’re fallible self interprets this, the Bible doesn’t say it.

Consider this in light of what I just said in bold above.

That was mere gibberish to me and nothing more.

Angels have bodies they are just spiritual bodies, like we will have after we are resurrected

Please provide me with a Biblical verse stating this as a fact.

Maybe if you explain what you are getting at with these sciptures I can give a response

They were pretty self explanatory actually. There is no point in preaching to sleeping souls now is there. A sleeping soul departs from the body for what reason? And He is a God of the living, not of the dead. A sleeping soul by definition is not alive in Christ for He is a God of the Living and not of the Dead.

 

[Cluny]

Ok, lets try it this way. Suppose you want to build a box. You get yourself some boards and nails and you start banging away. Pretty soon you have a box. There was no box before you put the boards together with the nails. Ok, suppose now you want to take the box apart. You pull all the nails and set them aside. You also set the boards aside. Do you still have a box? No. Where is the box? It ceases to exist. It’s the same with the soul. Which is the combination of the Spirit or breath of God with a body when either one is not present the soul ceases to exist.

The big mistake you are making here, RK, is that you are simply ignoring the fact that there is a HUMAN spirit and HUMAN soul that are distinct from God.

But if you’re wrong about man, of course you will be wrong about things of God.

This is why I say that every post you make you simply prove you don’t know whereof you speak.

 

[Good_Fella]

was this teaching ever condemned then officially defined in 1950?
i ask because of this:

christiantruth.com/assumption.html

The decretals of Pope Gelasius 1 (c.496) and Pope Hormisdas (520) do not condemn as heretical our belief in the Assumption. Nor could they. Papal decretals are written concerning ecclessial law and affairs, not teachings. And when popes issue a decretal they are officially exercising their authority under the auspices of the temporal authority - not the Magisterium. The TBM was rejected along with many other works because of the question of authorship and theological inconsistencies with the canon of Scripture and definitive orthodox beliefs. Belief in the glorious Assumption of Mary was not yet explicitly taught by the Church Fathers by the time these two decretals were issued. And since the Church held no definitive position on this doctrine by this time, belief in the Assumption could not have been condemned as a heresy.

Gregory of Tours (590) is the first known Church Father to have explicitly taught this doctrine, and he was not condemned by any pope or council for having done so. The decretals have nothing to do with belief in the Assumption and are not directly concerned with the heretical beliefs contained within the apochryphal works which were rejected on account of them. Papal decretals are not encyclicals or bulls; they are neither non-infallible or infallible. These decretals of Gelasius and Hormisdas simply serve to draw an index which distinguishes the canonical books from the non-canonical ones while addressing the problem of definitive unorthodox beliefs espoused by heretics who appealed to the apochryphal works now that the canon of Scripture had been established. Belief in the Assumption isn’t counted among these heretical beliefs nor treated as a false belief.

Pax Christu :harp:

 

[Richard_Kastner]

You cannot just sit your Bible down on the table and have it preach to you and clarify it’s teachings. You interpret your Bible therefore you likewise speak on it’s behalf. If you interpret wrongly then you preach another word, not of God. So please stop telling us what the Word of God is saying ok

.

What are you afraid of Des? Why do you feel threatened by the truth? If I have said anything contrary to the word of God. Show it to me and I will retract and prayfully revise it.
But if you cannot do that, then listen up.
13Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
20To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Unless you personally have the promise of God to lead you into all truths. And unless of course your truths are both grounded and upheld by a Pillar

Actually I do have such a promise. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The CC is correct. I was talking about that verse in particular and I’m certain you knew that.

I’m sorry, didn’t you say that this was NOT talking about Christ’s body. I’ve been answering a lot of posts and I thought that was your position.
Jn6:53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
My position is that Jesus is talking about feasting on THE WORD
Jn1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jn5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jn17:17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
It all points to Jesus THE WORD.

Then do not use it as a defense against the Holy Eucharist of which is Christ’s Body and Blood and profits us greatly.
Jesus was talking about the flesh of sinful man or dead flesh not profiting anything. As a matter of fact, that verse assists even further of what he was saying regarding the Eucharist and His own Flesh and how unique and special a gift it is.

Jn6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
What Jesus is telling us is that the flesh or the spirit of the world profits us nothing, but His words lead us to eternal life.
1Cor2:12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Doesn’t this passage pretty much say the same thing as Jn6:63

 

[Richard_Kastner]

i stopped reading posts after i read this part so if someone addressed this, i’m sorry.
but richard, you are wrong.
the reason Christ founded the Church on peter is because nobody, except peter, was given knowledge of Christ Divinity up to this point. God set peter out ahead of all other apostles right there.

occupant, all I hear here is you talking. If you backed this up with some scripture which I have no doubt that you cannot do. It would be more credible.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

also, richard, do you fast?

Why do you ask?

 

[Richard_Kastner]

The big mistake you are making here, RK, is that you are simply ignoring the fact that there is a HUMAN spirit and HUMAN soul that are distinct from God.

Ok, lets try it this way. Suppose you want to build a box. You get yourself some boards and nails and you start banging away. Pretty soon you have a box. There was no box before you put the boards together with the nails. Ok, suppose now you want to take the box apart. You pull all the nails and set them aside. You also set the boards aside. Do you still have a box? No. Where is the box? It ceases to exist. It’s the same with the soul. Which is the combination of the Spirit or breath of God with a body when either one is not present the soul ceases to exist.

This little story was my meager attempt to explain what a human soul is. There is no mention of God except to say that He gives the soul life. I don’t understand how you think that I somehow merged the soul of man with that of God in this story

But if you’re wrong about man, of course you will be wrong about things of God.
This is why I say that every post you make you simply prove you don’t know whereof you speak.

So are you saying that Gen.2:7 does not say that God breathed life into man’s nostils and he became a living soul. Because if you are then it is you that are wrong about both the things of man and the things of God.
Here is Gen2:7 again 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
I would ask you to be specific and show me where I am wrong in the things of man or the things of God. If you cannot do that then I would like to thank you ahead of time to quit making unsubstatiated accusations.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

You just maybe

I just maybe what?

if you are intentionally deciding to be blind to what God has shown.

What has God shown that I am blind to?

The bible tells us that not all is in the bible, so why would you ONLY look there? God is way bigger then the bible, so please don’t just confine Him to it.

I’m assuming you are talking of Jn:21:25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

I would only look there because it’s all I need to find eternal life. 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Why would I look anywere else?

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Catholics do feast on the Word of God. Jesus is the Word and… is present body, blood, soul & divinity in the Eucharist.

This is a uniquely Catholic teaching and is unsubstatiated in the bible

Jesus also said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you.
He also said to abide in Him. And those that abide in Him (and He in them) are those that eat His flesh and drink His blood

This is true. It’s just that that flesh and blood is not the eucharist. It’s THE WORD

 

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This is a uniquely Catholic teaching and is unsubstatiated in the bible

That is not so. There are Protestants that teach this as well without the insertions of transubstantiation and the such. The Bible is brightly clear about the Bread that comes from Heaven being Jesus’ flesh.

Jesus said that if you eat his flesh and drink his blood, you will have life within you. He expounds upon this several times in John 6. He said it at the Last Supper. He uses bread and wine to great significance. Way too much for it to be just simply symbolic.