The atheists I know just love to curse and use God's name in vain.

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Some atheists are atheists bc they had some sort of really bad experience with religion in one way or another. (note: some, not all)

…So they may become resentful to the whole idea of religion and God.

I dunno, that’s jut my guess.

What I WOULD like to know is why so many Christians speak of gays as disgusting, immoral people. What they do sexually may be a sin, but a lot of things we ALL do in our everyday lives are sins too.
 
I hear such foul language often. I wonder what the deal is. Is God the most disgusting thing they can think of? Every time someone says a curse like that I say a short prayer. I’ve started avoiding company of people who curse God. I really can’t stand it.
 
mark_a said:
Why so?
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"There appear to be two rudimentary classifications of nonbelievers, for lack of conventional designations, we have referred to these groups as “Contrived Atheists” and “Veritable Atheists”. Before debating, it would be helpful to ascertain which category the contender represents. Most will fall into the “Contrived Atheist” classification. These atheists will appear to have an entrenched hostility towards one, several or all religions (in which they endeavor to mask or conceal). They characteristically exhibit an apparent abhorrence towards God in general, likely resulting from something troublesome that happened in their lives, which they attributed to God. It is difficult to consider these people genuine atheists, particularly due to the perplexity of being angry at something they proclaim not to exist.

Arguing with this form of atheist will likely digress into trading “one liners” or “barbs of pointed witticisms”, with diminutive results. They can remind you of the typical axioms; “going in one ear and out the other” or “spinning your wheels”. As, these nonbelievers may only be “jerking your chain” or “trying to get a rise out of you”. They are very similar to those who argue that NASA never landed on the moon in the late 60’'s and early 70’s. Whether the evidence be communication records, Moon rock samples, photographs, retro-reflectors left on the lunar surface, testimony, video, etc., all evidence is completely ignored. “Veritable Atheists” appear to be a smaller category and seem to take a more level-headed scientific approach. They have a genuine interest in objective systematic discussion with reason. Arguing with these people will seem to be more of a logical discussion than a debate".

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God Bless
 
Every time you hear one do that, tell them directly that you are praying for them and they will soon feel God’s grace in their heart. It will stop soon enough. They will either get tired of you saying that or they will begin to see the error of their ways.
 
cursing and swearing is not so much looked down on society.Its got something to do with freedom of expression I quess.Why not use God’s name in vain if it can draw attention to myself and there is no god.People will listen to me and think i determined and convinced in what Im expounding.Nixon use to blank this and blank that and his close advisors seemed to pay attention or at least he thought they would.He was showing how determined he was in his beliefs.The reverend Billy Graham had no clue.
 
Insight said:
"There appear to be two rudimentary classifications of nonbelievers, for lack of conventional designations, we have referred to these groups as “Contrived Atheists” and “Veritable Atheists”. Before debating, it would be helpful to ascertain which category the contender represents. Most will fall into the “Contrived Atheist” classification. These atheists will appear to have an entrenched hostility towards one, several or all religions (in which they endeavor to mask or conceal). They characteristically exhibit an apparent abhorrence towards God in general, likely resulting from something troublesome that happened in their lives, which they attributed to God. It is difficult to consider these people genuine atheists, particularly due to the perplexity of being angry at something they proclaim not to exist.

Arguing with this form of atheist will likely digress into trading “one liners” or “barbs of pointed witticisms”, with diminutive results. They can remind you of the typical axioms; “going in one ear and out the other” or “spinning your wheels”. As, these nonbelievers may only be “jerking your chain” or “trying to get a rise out of you”. They are very similar to those who argue that NASA never landed on the moon in the late 60’'s and early 70’s. Whether the evidence be communication records, Moon rock samples, photographs, retro-reflectors left on the lunar surface, testimony, video, etc., all evidence is completely ignored. “Veritable Atheists” appear to be a smaller category and seem to take a more level-headed scientific approach. They have a genuine interest in objective systematic discussion with reason. Arguing with these people will seem to be more of a logical discussion than a debate".

ArguingWithAtheists.com

God Bless
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Thanks for the post. The atheists I know seem to be of the “contrived” variety.
 
Contra_Mundum said:
I wonder what the deal is. Is God the most disgusting thing they can think of?
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That’s exactly what I said! :mad: Every time I look inside a Church or look at an image of Our Lord, or Our Lady, or the Sacred Heart, or a crucifix, I always wonder who can hate something like that? 😦
 
valentino said:
Nixon use to blank this and blank that and his close advisors seemed to pay attention or at least he thought they would.He was showing how determined he was in his beliefs.
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I remember as a kid reading the transcripts in the paper and not understanding why the terms [expletive] and [deleted] were peppered throughout.😃
The reverend Billy Graham had no clue.
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You lost me here.
 
Marka:Billy Graham was a close confidante of Nixon.I believe kinda spiritual advisor.When Billly Graham heard the tapes he was kind of shoccked at the language Nixon was using.Nixon was using all kinds of objectional language.you get my pt.I sure.
 
I think the answer is a lot easier than you’re making it out to be.

Personally, I believe it’s simply the fact that there’s just no reason to hold back unless you’re religious.
 
mark_a said:
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Were the athiest honest to their own claimed beliefs, they would understand that using God’s name in vain is pointless. It would be the same as calling upon Zeus or Apollo.

So we have an athiest babbling in meaningless phrases.
Pretty funny, or sad depending upon POV.

Of course, let’s look at the other side of this. The words mean nothing to him, but they do mean something to the Christian within earshot.
Is the athiest aware of this?
If so, an apology should be demanded.

At the very least, they are babbling incoherently, at worst they are seeking to scandalize others around them.
 
To call someone a ‘contrived atheist’ would be to question the sincerity of their belief, which is not something this forum recommends!

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What I don’t understand is why atheists spend so much time thinking about something they apparently don’t believe in. I don’t think about atheism at all as a Catholic unless someone brings up the subject. I do believe that respect is deserved for each group. Lack of respect should be dealt with point blank! That is exactly how I handle the situation of the OP.
 
GRATEFULONEjim said:
What I don’t understand is why atheists spend so much time thinking about something they apparently don’t believe in. I don’t think about atheism at all as a Catholic unless someone brings up the subject.
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Same here. I don’t understand them and have no need to think about that belief system. I can’t imagine anything so boring as hanging out on an atheist forum, debating with people.
But yes, respect is crucial. And we don’t get much of that from ‘free thinkers’.
 
My theory is that deep down inside they know God exists but are in rebellion against him. Otherwise, why use the name of someone they do not believe exists in order to curse?

I believe it was Chesterton who pointed out you never hear anyone blaspheming Thor.
 
Honestly, I think this thread’s premise could be overreaching just a tad.

I have seen plenty of Christians and atheists alike who very frequently curse, use vulgar language, and take all manner of divine names in vain.

In my experience very little cursing is consciously intended as a literal curse against something but rather as an emotional outburst or interjection. I don’t think most people are actively thinking of YHWH or Christ or etc when they use the name in vain any more then people who use the f-word are thinking of actual fornication or people who use the s-word are thinking of actual excrement.

Rather, those words are used as indicators of pain, anger, frustration, and displeasure. It is a sort of social convention–hearing those words used in those contexts to express those feelings from a young age on causes us to identify such ejaculative uses with the emotion rather than the thing itself.

Evidence for the social convention bit of cursing can be seen from the sheer gulf between commonly used curse words in different cultures. I frequently hear “bapteme!” or “calice!” from one of my Quebecois friends but have never once heard an American stub their toe and scream “baptism!” or “chalice!”. I find it highly doubtful that my Quebecois friend just really really really hates those things for some arbitrary reason. It isn’t the thing itself that people are intoning–it is just that everybody learns from mass media to use those words to express those certain feelings from a young age on.

tl;dr version: it isn’t that we secretly believe in God but hate him and don’t want to admit it but that we learned from a very young age that those are the words associated with certain unpleasant feelings

(ok, well, I am sure some atheists do actually do the whole hating divinity thing but I think the social convention explanation for cursing is much more persuasive and broadly applicable)
 
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