The atheists I know just love to curse and use God's name in vain.

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Whereas I do believe ones theological position shapes the form, frequency and manner of profanity, there is also others intrinsic element that drives the situation. A lack of respect and courtesy for others, habit, laxness in discipline, for emphasis and as a venting mechanism. I have a practicing Orthodox Jew as a friend and he has a tendency to use offensive profanity, so atheists do have a monopoly on such behaviour. However, I will grant that its an association that isn’t without some anecdotal merit.
 
mark_a said:
Why so?
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Atheists aren’t very good at not believing in God and they ignorantly let it slip in lots of ways. Using God’s name is one way, another way is their obsession with what they claim to think isn’t even there in the first place, their inability to stay away from Christians, especially on websites.

People understand what it looks like when another person doesn’t think something (God) is there. This is a test which atheists fail every time.

But relax, in almost every case, the atheist God-fit ends and they return to church. Once there the average ex atheist becomes one of the most admirable Christians in the congregation.

In the end, all things serve God, including atheism because people notice the atheists own conflicted disposition while still playing atheist, and their more improved disposition when they become Christian.
 
Last night I overheard my husband watching one of those reality shows…

All I could hear downstairs was ‘bleep bleep bleep’. I asked why spend his time watching and listening to such mindlessness…he has another tv in a backroom…and this tv is in our living room, sacred space where family meets with my Sacred Heart picture and my Lady of Grace statue, my rosary tray, and pictures of loved ones and God’s creation.

I came up and asked him when was it that our culture has particularly gone so downhill with foul language? I think it really started kicking up about 15 years ago…or so, preceded by guys getting real angry about something in Hollywood films, trashing well kept homes or offices or rooms. So angry, trashing and trashing.

I can’t stand it.

Destructive trashing of work made by human hands, and then the trashing of the mouth.

We live in a world that instead of hearing good, constructive words, we are hearing a pestilence of profanity. As the nuns revealed to us in grade school, you never hear them cursing Buddha or Mohammed, but it is always Gentle Jesus.
 
Some years ago my husband and I and another couple decided to have a picnic in a public park. We settled down on a blanket with our young children.

Soon some other people came in with a boom box spewing rap with the most filthy language. And, of course, they had it turned up all the way.

Believe it or not, these people had toddlers with them.

We packed up and moved to another section of the park where we didn’t have to listen to such foulness. It used to be that you could just call the police and have something done about it. No more.

I sure couldn’t help feeling sorry for those toddlers.
 
Yes,…Kay Cee…there is the Holy Name Society, run by men who uphold and work for the sacred name of Christ. There was one here about 10 years ago but I don’t know if they still meet.

Last night…it was literally bleep bleep bleep…at a pawn shop…I mean…they might as well had some background music as there was very little recognizable dialogue. He likes sports alot…and we do watch some reality shows…but last night it was over the top. Balance…

We are supposed to say a prayer to Christ in reparation…I heard a very famous actress say the Lord’s name on a day time tv show and was disappointed in her…that is how it goes…
 
babylonsfalling said:
Atheists aren’t very good at not believing in God and they ignorantly let it slip in lots of ways. Using God’s name is one way, another way is their obsession with what they claim to think isn’t even there in the first place, their inability to stay away from Christians, especially on websites.

People understand what it looks like when another person doesn’t think something (God) is there. This is a test which atheists fail every time.

But relax, in almost every case, the atheist God-fit ends and they return to church. Once there the average ex atheist becomes one of the most admirable Christians in the congregation.

In the end, all things serve God, including atheism because people notice the atheists own conflicted disposition while still playing atheist, and their more improved disposition when they become Christian.
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This “test” you have invented works a little differently when you are surrounded by an overwhelming majority of people who think that the thing does exist and when their belief in the existence of that thing has profound impacts on society.

I have already explained above how using divine names in vain is the result of social conditioning rather than a secret belief in God. I don’t buy the bit about “People understand what it looks like when another person doesn’t think something is there” and the subsequent claim that since atheists mention the idea of God they must believe in God. If you were to apply this standard to, say, missionaries in a pagan land then they must surely believe in Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month. After all, why on earth would they keep mentioning something they don’t believe in?

For the same reason atheists do–because they have to deal with the beliefs of those around them. Not because all Christians who mention pagan Gods are secret heathens or because all atheists who talk about God are secret theists.
 
Lieutenant_Kije said:
This “test” you have invented works a little differently when you are surrounded by an overwhelming majority of people who think that the thing does exist and when their belief in the existence of that thing has profound impacts on society.

I have already explained above how using divine names in vain is the result of social conditioning rather than a secret belief in God. I don’t buy the bit about “People understand what it looks like when another person doesn’t think something is there” and the subsequent claim that since atheists mention the idea of God they must believe in God. If you were to apply this standard to, say, missionaries in a pagan land then they must surely believe in Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month. After all, why on earth would they keep mentioning something they don’t believe in?

For the same reason atheists do–because they have to deal with the beliefs of those around them. Not because all Christians who mention pagan Gods are secret heathens or because all atheists who talk about God are secret theists.
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I am Catholic.
I believe in the Real Presence. God is truly there, in physical form.
Yet I work in an office of about 100 people and not a single one of them believe this.

Now this belief is very important to me. And the conviction of the people I work with is very strong to the contrary.

Yet no one ever makes a mention of the difference.
In spite of routine conversatiopn swaying into the religious field, this particular difference is not highlighted.

Maybe these office workers are simply not as hung up on the topic as atheists appear to be.🤷
 
I think that many Atheists are Atheists because they are rebelling against God and religion. They say they don’t believe in God but in actuality, they might actually believe in Him even if they don’t realize it. Therefore, they are rebelling against God. Often times, people say they are an Atheist when in reality they are simple angry at God for some misfortune that has occurred in their life.
 
Lieutenant_Kije said:
This “test” you have invented***<—I didn’t invent it…it’s something lots of people notice about atheists all the time.*** works a little differently when you are surrounded by an overwhelming majority of people who think that the thing does exist and when their belief in the existence of that thing has profound impacts on society.<—Blaming believers and the same society you choose and want to live in is an old, worn out excuse. The conflicted behavior of atheists is the atheists own fault, not anyone else’s.

I have already explained above how using divine names in vain is the result of social conditioning <—Nobody “conditioned” atheists to take God’s name in vain. You’re responsible for that all my by yourself. rather than a secret belief in God. I don’t buy the bit about “People understand what it looks like when another person doesn’t think something is there” <—I know…atheists hate that reality. and the subsequent claim that since atheists mention the idea of God they must believe in God. "That’s NOT what I said you know it. If you were to apply this standard to, say, missionaries in a pagan land then they must surely believe in Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month. After all, why on earth would they keep mentioning something they don’t believe in? <—I know missionaries and that’s NOT what they’re doing. You probably know it too.

For the same reason atheists do–because they have to deal with the beliefs of those around them. <—Now you’re blaming other people for the conflicted behavior of atheists again. Atheist behavior is the atheists OWN fault. Not because all Christians who mention pagan Gods are secret heathens or because all atheists who talk about God are secret theists.
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The test is not mine nor did I invent it. It’s no secret that atheists talk the talk very loudly but seem completely lost when it comes to walking the walk. A person who thinks something is nonexistent ACTS like it’s non-existent which includes moving on after making their decision and leaving it behind. They don’t spend their spare time seeking out websites where they know they’ll encounter even more Christians and then use the fact that they’re “surrounded” by Christians as an excuse for their conflicted behavior. Nobody who thinks Christians have that effect on them would go home, jump on the computer and spend their spare time seeking out more Christians on websites like this. All that does is make the atheist appear more conflicted than he already appears. Blaming Christians for atheist behavior is a non-starter. It’s the atheists own fault that they can’t get God out of their head.

Blaming “social conditioning” for atheist behavior is equally ridiculous. Nobody conditioned atheists to take God’s name in vain. Again, atheist behavior is the atheists own fault, not ANYONE else’s.

I know missionaries and the comparison with missionaries is also a non starter. Missionaries aren’t going anywhere to talk about Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month. They’re going to talk about the God of the Bible and everyone knows that…including atheists. If they speak about Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month it would be in response to someone else mentioning Thor/Zeus/Pagan-God-of-the-Month.

But even if you’d given an honest description of what missionaries do, it still wouldn’t compare with what atheists do anyway. Atheists don’t believe in atheism enough to spend their spare time traveling the world to remote areas trying to help people by getting them to not believe in anything.

What atheists are REALLY doing is complaining about being “surrounded” by Christians and then coming home and jumping on Christian websites where they know they’ll be “surrounded” by Christians all over again…and then blaming Christians for their own conflicted behavior.🤷
 
Holly3278 said:
I think that many Atheists are Atheists because they are rebelling against God and religion. They say they don’t believe in God but in actuality, they might actually believe in Him even if they don’t realize it. Therefore, they are rebelling against God. Often times, people say they are an Atheist when in reality they are simple angry at God for some misfortune that has occurred in their life.
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People who REALLY think of God as something which is non existent would not make such an issue of God.
 
IMO, Atheists are Atheists just so that they can do whatever they want so that when they sin they don’t feel guilty. I pray to God so that he opens their eyes and they accept Jesus into their lives.
 
Its not just the atheists, all the Christians I know use the Lord’s name in vain. Even the Catholics!

Interestingly, the atheists I know, they don’t do it. I think it depends on the person, their upbringing and the culture around them. Frankly, I think its kind of rude, whether or not Jesus was the son of God is moot in this point, a man named Jesus existed, he was from Narazeth, and was crucified by the Romans, why anyone would want to use the name of a peaceful, innocent man who died horribly as a curse word is kind of ignorant. People woudln’t go around shouting out “Ghandi!” when something doesn’t go their way.
 
Isa_is_Allah said:
IMO, Atheists are Atheists just so that they can do whatever they want so that when they sin they don’t feel guilty. I pray to God so that he opens their eyes and they accept Jesus into their lives.
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You may be right.
That still doesn’t explain their conflicted behavior after becoming atheists.
They try really hard to not believe in God but they never “fail to fail” at being convincing.
Prayer works for these guys. Almost all of them return to the Church sooner or later and once there, they end up becoming some of the most admirable Christians in the congregation.

All things serve God including atheists by proving that the most ardent God-deniers out there are the ones who most obviously can never get God out of their heads.🙂
 
It’s the old “I don’t believe in/do X, so that’s what I’ll indirectly base my life around” deal. No different than sullen teenagers at the mall dressing up in all black and talking about “conformists” with polychromatic wardrobes. Comedian
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Jim Gaffigan’s bit on meat hang-ups among vegetarians comes to mind:

“I don’t like meat, I just like to call meat late at night and hang up. Let’s drive by meat’s house. Does meat ever ask about me?” 😊:o
 
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