The Battle Behind the Fight [NYT]

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This woman like so many Dems don’t understand the battle. What does it matter if 90% of Catholics practice birth control it is still a sin and immoral by the Catholic church standards. You can believe the sun rises in the west and sets in the east but that doesn’t make it right. This is a religious lliberty issue not a contraception issue. Planned Parenthood would be more than glad to give out contraception pills and devices to anyone who wants them. Don’t make us their partner. God bless the bishops and all who are fighting for our liberty.
 
This woman like so many Dems don’t understand the battle. What does it matter if 90% of Catholics practice birth control it is still a sin and immoral by the Catholic church standards. You can believe the sun rises in the west and sets in the east but that doesn’t make it right. This is a religious lliberty issue not a contraception issue. Planned Parenthood would be more than glad to give out contraception pills and devices to anyone who wants them. Don’t make us their partner. God bless the bishops and all who are fighting for our liberty.
Exactly. There’s no shortage of contraception availability in the country, and no shortage of contraception coverage. There was and is no need for the HHS mandate. The government is free to fund contraception coverage any way it wants without requiring Catholic institutions and Catholic employers to provide it, at the cost of abandoning their moral principles.
 
I found some of her points…interesting…especially concerning Catholic health organizations…

From the article…"Let’s skip over the flaws in the strong moral position position. Such as the fact that **many states already require employers’ health care plans to cover contraception and that all over the United States there are Catholic universities and hospitals that comply. **Or that the bishops have totally failed to convince their own faithful that birth control is a moral evil and now appear to be trying to get the federal government to do the job for them. We’re rising above all that.

On Friday, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops called the tweak** “a first step in the right direction**,” which is certainly better than nothing. Sister Carol Keehan, the head of the 600-plus-member umbrella group for Catholic hospitals, applauded the change."

Is this true…do Catholic hosptials and universities already comply?
 
I found some of her points…interesting…especially concerning Catholic health organizations…

From the article…"Let’s skip over the flaws in the strong moral position position. Such as the fact that many states already require employers’ health care plans to cover contraception and that all over the United States there are Catholic universities and hospitals that comply. Or that the bishops have totally failed to convince their own faithful that birth control is a moral evil and now appear to be trying to get the federal government to do the job for them. We’re rising above all that.
There are state contraceptive mandates:

catholicreview.org/article/work/law-secular-/state-contraceptive-mandates-widespread-but-not-as-broad-as-hhs-plan

USSCB says:
The federal mandate is much stricter than existing state mandates. HHS chose the narrowest state-level religious exemption as the model for its own. That exemption was drafted by the ACLU and exists in only 3 states (New York,California,Oregon). Even without a religious exemption, religious employers can already avoid the contraceptive mandates in 28 statesby self-insuring their prescription drug coverage, dropping that coverage altogether, or opting for regulation under a federal law (ERISA) that pre-empts state law. TheHHS mandate closes off all these avenues of relief.
usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/conscience-protection/index.cfm

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Is there precedent for such a broad mandate for contraception and sterilization coverage?
No. Until now, no federal law required private health plans to cover these items. Even state contraceptive mandates (enacted in approximately half the states), with rare exception, do not require sterilization coverage, and do not apply to all health plans. As a general rule, state mandates apply to insured plans that provide prescription drug coverage. **
HHS says its language is very similar to religious exemptions in many state contraceptive mandates, but this is incorrect. Most states with an exemption from such a mandate provide broader conscience protection than HHS has authorized in its final interim rule. In addition, HHS’s reliance on state law ignores several things: (1) as noted above, the state laws themselves are not as sweeping as HHS’s mandate; (2) almost half the states impose no contraceptive mandate at all, so they “exempt” everyone; (3) some states which do have a mandate exclude some drugs like “emergency” contraception. Thus even in the states, the scope of this mandate is largely unprecedented.
cacatholic.org/index.php/issues2/religious-liberty/conscience-rights/190-background-mandated-contraceptive-and-sterilization-coverage
On Friday, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops called the tweak** “a first step in the right direction**,” which is certainly better than nothing. Sister Carol Keehan, the head of the 600-plus-member umbrella group for Catholic hospitals, applauded the change."
Is this true…do Catholic hosptials and universities already comply?
The USSCB responded to Obama’s ‘accommodation’ in short saying that the HHS mandate needs to rescinded of the objectionable services it still contains:

usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/conscience-protection/bishops-renew-call-to-legislative-action-on-religious-liberty.cfm

Sister Carol Keehan does not speak for the Catholic Church. She has defended an abortion at St Joseph’s hospital which was a hospital in the Catholic Health Association. The Catholic status of that hospital was revoked by Bishop Olmsted.

Your last question goes back to the text I posted to your first question.
 
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