It is Important to note that Abstaing from Meat on Fridays is Still Canon Law, and Observed Since The First Century. Too many Catholics think ‘or some other penance’, Not True. The Focus for 1970 years has Been No Meat on Fridays, with a few exceptions. Thanks for Including Canon Law #1250-1252, SonCatcher
We 1.3 Billion Roman/Orthodox Catholics Live everything Our Founder - Jesus Christ - as he taught, for 1980 Years, friend, not New Men's ideas of a few hundred years. He began Each of ther 7 sacraments: all In the Bible. Only we Live the Bible Fully, as God Intended, including The Last Supper Feast, with Christ 'blessing' bread/Wine into His Obvious Real Presence. The Apostles Immediatelly followed Our Lord's Instructions: "Do This in My Memory" immediatelly after The Crucifiction. Documented, and In the New Testament. Christ Began the "Social Concerns" of Helping Others Always, not oneself; The Catholic Church is The by Far Largest, Biggest Charity in the World, and is Itself definitivelly Non-Profit: Pour Clair, Franciscan, many other Religious Orders: No-Ownership, and no or tiny pay Sustenance furnished.
We don't "claim" anything, and Not Men's Ideas. True Catholics Love, Live Christ's FULL Bible Teachings; summarized in Overview as (1) Love The Lord Your God, (2) Love (Help) your Neighbor As Yourself. Christ suggested EVERYone is our neighbor. Those Teachings Prevent All Problems, Wars, fights. The Problem with all Religions is the Massive Commercial Secularization All Media Propaganda, that too many have followed into Themselves, ignoring God. (Beautifully, Friends practise #2 also, best in remote Rural Areas.) Live in Jesus, Friend.In my post #80 I lay out a number of rituals related to Sacraments and Grace . I also pointed out that your position is one that is thoroughly heterodox , i.e., one that has not been held by Christ ( as demonstrated by his actions ) , the Apostles , the Early Church Fathers , the Roman Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox Church (and perhaps not even by the Anglican Communion ---- but I am not positive about this one , so I will defer if someone can explain otherwise ) at any point in history . In other words , I made an argument .
Publisher Friend, (1) It’s Against Christ’s Techings And the Bible to Focus on “My Opinion”; We focus on what Christ/God wants, and His Opinions, which cover EVERYthing; (2) We Live by Christ’s Teachings, not Ours, Friend; (3) Christ Initiated, created Each Sacrament, not men; (4) the Priesthood was initiated by The Apostles, to Spread, Continue Teaching The Word, in the Rapidly expanding Early Church. Think Christ made a mistake in picking The Apostles to Teach? And They in Anointing, Teaching “Presbyters” to Spread, Continue Teachihng, Practicing “The Word”? And (6), Friend: RCIA Begining in Every Parish, to Teach the Unique “Teachings” of Christ, and the WHY’s: Christ’s teachings. We Live All Bible, are Supposed to Help, Love Every One, and live In Peace Only.
[/SIGN] Friend, Do Quaker Beliefs Teach Respect for Every Faith and Every single Person? We do. The Church, Like Christ, Only condems The Sin, Never The Sinner! : The naked man in the river, and Christ Clothing, converting him! <<< Great to see you here, exchanging Christ and Bible ideas, Friend. Sorry a few of us are argumentative, against Church/Christ’s teachings. 
:bible1:I’m not offering an arguement…I need none to offer. I have answered my questions concerning the matter…and you have answered yours. There is One who will carry the Day for us both…I’m good with that.
The Lord bless you as well.Publisher Friend, (1) It’s Against Christ’s Techings And the Bible to Focus on “My Opinion”; We focus on what Christ/God wants, and His Opinions, which cover EVERYthing; (2) We Live by Christ’s Teachings, not Ours, Friend; (3) Christ Initiated, created Each Sacrament, not men; (4) the Priesthood was initiated by The Apostles, to Spread, Continue Teaching The Word, in the Rapidly expanding Early Church. Think Christ made a mistake in picking The Apostles to Teach? And They in Anointing, Teaching “Presbyters” to Spread, Continue Teachihng, Practicing “The Word”? And (6), Friend: RCIA Begining in Every Parish, to Teach the Unique “Teachings” of Christ, and the WHY’s: Christ’s teachings. We Live All Bible, are Supposed to Help, Love Every One, and live In Peace Only.
[SIGN] Best place to discover the “Why’s of RCC/OCC” is this very Worldwide CAF, begun by a Convert from Atheism, Friend.
Truth is something we live…not necessarily something we “believe”…I can ‘believe’ all truth…but it avails me nothing if my life is void of the love and compassion we are called to live within as followers of Jesus of Nazareth.
You know what Publisher, I have been reading this thread for a while now and although we disagree on almost everything theological, not all mind you, but most of it. I think you have stated your case, even if I think it is flawed,
and your thoughts very clearly and all the while maintaining a sense of composure and charity. Good on you.Well , actually , you do need to explain yourself if you want to be taken seriously . I didn’t ask you to answer your questions and I didn’t ask myself any . How is this response of yours not very thin gruel ?I’m not offering an arguement…I need none to offer. I have answered my questions concerning the matter…and you have answered yours. There is One who will carry the Day for us both…I’m good with that.
Did you go to my church? Cause this is what my old Baptist church did.Some of the most ritualistic people I ever met were Baptists.
Typical service:
Greeting
Opening hymn
Announcments
2nd hymn
Offering
3rd hymn
Sermon
Invitation hymn
Dismissal
Closing hymn
