The Book Which is Most being read:Qur'an

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you mean because it is the holiday of Ramadan the Quran is the most widely read book? however, there are many many people who read scripture or the Bible everyday too - both Jews and Christians!
Maybe. Qur’an is the most read book for anytime and for centuries. I(Muslims) respect Torah and Bible. Both scriptures have a special value and Muslims also regard. Muslim recognise all scriptures as word of God. But Qur’an is unique to hold the originality.

Do all Christians read Bible in same language? No. But all Muslims even kids and uneducated people read Qur’an in Arabic. Reading Qur’an is a kind of worship. Millions of Muslims read Qur’an every day.
 
Do all Christians read Bible in same language? No. But all Muslims even kids and uneducated people read Qur’an in Arabic.
With all due respect, this is not true. I know that the goal for muslims is to learn Arabic, but you can’t tell me that converts who only speak english are reading the Qur’an in Arabic.

All religious books are translated into different languages to reach audiences.
 
Part of being on an apologetics site is having thick skin. You’ve been here for two years, you should know the drill by now.
Rude and uncharitable comments are dealt with by the mods. The mod edited your grammar. Otherwise ignore the High School remarks. The ball is in your court to defend your position. That’s how it works.
I mean, you started the thread.
 
Qur’an is the book which is most being red. Espesially in nowadays of Ramadan Qur’an is being red in Mosques and homes. In Mosques Hafizs read and other Muslims listen to Qur’an. In Ramadan many Muslim try to read whole Qur’an in Ramadan. That is at least 20 pages per day. Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read. That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God.
Without evidence, I do not believe for a second that the Qu’ran is the mostly read book. For one thing, I wonder how this could even be measured.
Secondly, there are many charming books that make people read. I like the short Sherlock Holmes stories. A friend of mine loves Jane Austen.A few others prefer the fantasy genre. Those fantasy books are big and my friends read certainly more than 20 pages a day! Not that it proves anything. Nor does fascination with a particular book.
Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws.
I disagree. Muslims don’t seem to behave more moral that non-muslims, which is what one would expect if your claim is true. I hardly need to argue that the opposite is true. And I don’t need to point to extremists for that. Almost every single islamic country punishes homosexuality - which is a form of love and not of sin - and apostasy.

Secondly, the quran does not foster the mind because it claims to already have the answers. It’s the pursuit of knowledge that trains the mind. Islam has made people lose their curiosity. There is almost no science worthy of the name being produced in the islamic world today.
Qur’an teach or point all sciences.
No it doesn’t. The Quran claims mountains were created by God and are pegs that stabilize the crust of the earth (31:10, 21:31,16:15,15:19 and 78: 6-7). Everyone knows the earth isn’t stable and mountains are the result of tectonic plate collision.

Further, with regards to biology, it is well known that embryology in the Qu’ran was taken from the Greeks, particularly Galen, because the Quran makes the same mistakes as the Greeks. Secondly, Human beings are not created from clay (15:26), but they are the result of millions of years of evolution.

It’s also interesting what the Qu’ran leaves out. Nothing about gravitational waves or dinosaurs for example.
A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc. And all those make Qur’an miraculous.
A miracle is a suspension of or intervention in the natural order. None of what you just argued - even if it were true - is a violation of the natural laws known to us.
Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
A lot of books are equal to the Qu’ran, many more are even better. The Bible is better, but that has already been argued by others. I would say Lucretius’ poem De Rerum Natura is also much, much better than the Qu’ran. It’s better written, more musical (though translations diminish the effect somewhat), more moral and certainly more knowledgeable about nature than the Qu’ran.

It’s also written more than 650 years before the Qu’ran.
 
Not sure why you are upset when you came on to a Catholic forum and wrote a monologue about how the Qur’an is wonderful.🤷 You are welcome here but you will receive push back when you want to praise a book that catholics do not believe in.
Without evidence, I do not believe for a second that the Qu’ran is the mostly read book. For one thing, I wonder how this could even be measured.

Muslims don’t seem to behave more moral that non-muslims, which is what one would expect if your claim is true.

A lot of books are equal to the Qu’ran, many more are even better. The Bible is better, but that has already been argued by others.
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=Cheiron;13973586]Without evidence, I do not believe for a second that the Qu’ran is the mostly read book. For one thing, I wonder how this could even be measured.
Secondly, there are many charming books that make people read. I like the short Sherlock Holmes stories. A friend of mine loves Jane Austen.A few others prefer the fantasy genre. Those fantasy books are big and my friends read certainly more than 20 pages a day! Not that it proves anything. Nor does fascination with a particular book.
Qur’an is being read every time in every where Muslims live. Most of Muslims spend some of time to read Qur’an as a worship daily. Qur’an is being read in Salat without deductions. To see that you should live in an Islamic country. Of course there are many charming books but non of them can contest with Qur’an. Qur’an has been so charming from it was revealed and by the time Qur’an do not lose it. Many books may be popular for a period of time for some peoples. Qur’an ia always being read by Muslims every times.
I disagree. Muslims don’t seem to behave more moral that non-muslims, which is what one would expect if your claim is true. I hardly need to argue that the opposite is true. And I don’t need to point to extremists for that. Almost every single islamic country punishes homosexuality - which is a form of love and not of sin - and apostasy.
I do not claim that Muslims behave more moral than non-Muslims. Christians have moral laws and yet Hindus have moral laws. Unfortunately Muslims do not behave moraly exactly. Do Christians absolutely behave moraly according disciplines of Christianity? The point is that Qur’an teach moral.
Secondly, the quran does not foster the mind because it claims to already have the answers. It’s the pursuit of knowledge that trains the mind. Islam has made people lose their curiosity. There is almost no science worthy of the name being produced in the islamic world today.
You critics with circumstances of nowadays. Once Muslims had advanced in sciences more than others. Qur’an is not a scientific book. Qur’an is word of someone(God) who creates all laws which we call sciences. Qur’an talk about universe from stars to atoms very correctly. Qur’an answer the question that where everythings come from and where it go. Qur’an answer the all questions which the mind cannot solve by itself. Of course previous scriptures did a bit.
No it doesn’t. The Quran claims mountains were created by God and are pegs that stabilize the crust of the earth (31:10, 21:31,16:15,15:19 and 78: 6-7). Everyone knows the earth isn’t stable and mountains are the result of tectonic plate collision.
Look at that verse:

88- And you see the mountains, thinking them rigid, while they will pass as the passing of clouds. [It is] the work of Allah, who perfected all things. Indeed, He is Acquainted with that which you do. An-Naml (27)

That can be explained with Plate tectonics.

Qur’an say mountains are like pegs because mountains fix the crust of the earth from earthquakes. Pegs fix something to not move.

God create and act through some laws and peole call that actions of God as physical laws or Plate Tectonic Collisison!
 
Qur’an is being read every time in every where Muslims live. Most of Muslims spend some of time to read Qur’an as a worship daily. Qur’an is being read in Salat without deductions. To see that you should live in an Islamic country. Of course there are many charming books but non of them can contest with Qur’an. Qur’an has been so charming from it was revealed and by the time Qur’an do not lose it. Many books may be popular for a period of time for some peoples. Qur’an is always being read by Muslims every times.
First of all I would like to say I appreciate Muslims very much. I am not talking about those in a cultural shock living in Western countries where they don’t fit in. In their own environments, they are hospitable, friendly, have family values and their women are modest. The latter can teach a lot to the West.
It is true that the Quran cannot be appreciated except in Arabic. Anything else is a poor reflection of the complexity and beauty of the language.
I for one am sorry that Islam has become politicized. This is not the only religion it happened to. Look at Northern Ireland, the Hundred Years War with Protestants battling it out with Catholics. Religion should never be connected with worldly power or money for that matter. Both are corrupting.
Ahlen wa sahlen! (It means welcome.)
 
Qur’an is being read every time in every where Muslims live. Most of Muslims spend some of time to read Qur’an as a worship daily. Qur’an is being read in Salat without deductions. To see that you should live in an Islamic country. Of course there are many charming books but non of them can contest with Qur’an. Qur’an has been so charming from it was revealed and by the time Qur’an do not lose it. Many books may be popular for a period of time for some peoples. Qur’an ia always being read by Muslims every times.
This is an argument from popularity and it fails for two reasons. First, taste is highly subjective. Personally, I prefer to follow the rhetorical standard set by the Greeks and the Romans, because it works extremely well. In my opinion, the Qu’ran fails that standard. I can see why someone would say a beautiful book is inspired by God. However, if we grant this argument, we must also grant that if a book does not seem to be beautiful, it can’t have been inspired by God. To me, both positions sound like non-sequiturs.

Secondly, if the argument from popularity has any merit, then surely you’ll understand that the Bible is the true word of God and not the Qu’ran? Christians outnumber Muslims by hundreds of millions of people. So be careful if you wish to claim popularity as a standard for the divinity of books.
I do not claim that Muslims behave more moral than non-Muslims. Christians have moral laws and yet Hindus have moral laws. Unfortunately Muslims do not behave moraly exactly. Do Christians absolutely behave moraly according disciplines of Christianity? The point is that Qur’an teach moral.
Then I have misunderstood you. I thought you wanted the claim the Qu’ran was written by God because it teaches morality. The point I made was this: If Muslims do not behave more morally than non-Muslims, then either the Qu’ran is not the word of God or all other holy books are also the word of God - which contradicts the Qu’rans supposed uniqueness. This problem becomes even more complicated when Muslims don’t behave more morally than secular humanists. Does that mean God’s morality is on the same level as godless morality?

I also made the case that the Islamic world is now less moral than the partly Christian, partly secular West. For one thing, when was the last time you heard a secular humanist kill someone for his non-belief? Yet this is routine in the land of Mecca and Medina. Again, I’m not pointing to extremists here. Apostasy is punished almost everywhere in the Islamic world. It’s immoral if people can’t leave Islam to become a non-believer or a Christian.
You critics with circumstances of nowadays. Once Muslims had advanced in sciences more than others. Qur’an is not a scientific book. Qur’an is word of someone(God) who creates all laws which we call sciences. Qur’an talk about universe from stars to atoms very correctly. Qur’an answer the question that where everythings come from and where it go. Qur’an answer the all questions which the mind cannot solve by itself. Of course previous scriptures did a bit.
I agree that the Qu’ran is not a scientific book, yet it does make testable predictions that can be verified or falsified. I already mentioned embryology, geology and human origins. Science has solved questions on which the Qu’ran was just flatout wrong.

It is interesting that you mentioned atoms. The existence of atoms was already argued by Lucretius in the poem De Rerum Natura (on the nature of things), about 650 years before the Qu’ran. Lucretius took inspiration from Epicurus, Leucippus and Democritus. The last two philosophers lived a millenium before the Qu’ran. You can’t claim the Qu’ran is divine revelation when the atoms were being discussed a thousand years before the Qu’ran appeared.
Of course previous scriptures did a bit.
I want to emphasize this. The reason I quote the Greeks and Romans is precisely because their work was not regarded as scripture or as a religious text. And also because they predate Islam by centuries.
Look at that verse:
88- And you see the mountains, thinking them rigid, while they will pass as the passing of clouds. [It is] the work of Allah, who perfected all things. Indeed, He is Acquainted with that which you do. An-Naml (27)
That can be explained with Plate tectonics.
The context of chapter 27 makes clear that the author wrote about what happens on judgement day. Whoever wrote it certainly did not think his words reflected the actual geological situation at that point. And mountains are not the same as tectonic plates.
Qur’an say mountains are like pegs because mountains fix the crust of the earth from earthquakes. Pegs fix something to not move.
God create and act through some laws and peole call that actions of God as physical laws or Plate Tectonic Collisison!
Wait, you just wrote that the Qu’ran says continental drift is real. Now you write that the crust of the earth is fixed by mountains? Here are the facts:

Earthquakes and mountains are both the result of plate tectonics. You can google “earthquakes map” and you will find out that most earthquakes happen along fault lines. And no mountain can stop that. The largest mountains, the Himalaya mountain range, is the product of the Indian plate colliding with the eurasian plate. India is being dragged below Asia, which pushes ocean floor sediments wedged between the plates skyhigh. That’s also why you can find seashells on mountain tops.

Mountains are not fixed and they do not prevent earthquakes.
 
there maybe no book like the qruan but i know a book that is Greater than it, The Bible
 
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Further, with regards to biology, it is well known that embryology in the Qu’ran was taken from the Greeks, particularly Galen, because the Quran makes the same mistakes as the Greeks. Secondly, Human beings are not created from clay (15:26), but they are the result of millions of years of evolution.
Muhammad could not read or write. He was not aware of Greek. Every Arab was very amazed how a man like Muhammad could say such things. Some question about evolution.

Every cell is produced from a present cell. In nature a cell does not come into being from scratch. If it was possible for a cell to be consist by atoms gathering randomly hence there would be many samples but there is no. And of course there is no intermediate forms. And why did evolution stop? Of course there is no any explain for senses.
 
Qur’an is the book which is most being red. Espesially in nowadays of Ramadan Qur’an is being red in Mosques and homes. In Mosques Hafizs read and other Muslims listen to Qur’an. In Ramadan many Muslim try to read whole Qur’an in Ramadan. That is at least 20 pages per day. Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read. That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God. Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws. Qur’an teach or point all sciences. A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc. And all those make Qur’an miraculous. Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
What are your thoughts on people reading, The Satanic Verses, by Salmon Rushdie? As a Christian, I’m allowed to read text that is overtly anti-Christian.

Jon
 
Qur’an is the book which is most being red.
The Holy Bible is actually the most read book in the world. The Qur’an, of course, is certainly a widely-read book. You may think this is just bias because I’m a Christian, but this is a reliable source.
Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read.
It’s the same with the Bible, and especially the Torah with the most devout Jews. I guess we all have holy books that inspire the people to read, and they search for that knowledge.
That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God. Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws. Qur’an teach or point all sciences.
The Bible and Torah do, too. They are both considered to be revelation from God by their faiths, both teach moral laws, and science is demonstrated throughout
A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc.
The Bible is much longer than the Qur’an. It’s just that there’s more text. The Qur’an has just under 80,000 words of text, the Authorized King James version of the Bible has just over 783,000 words (and the Catholic Bible, having 7 more books, contains much more). But they both have doctrine! 😉
Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
Many people make many claims, and one is that their holy book is! 👍
 
=Cheiron;13974326]This is an argument from popularity and it fails for two reasons. First, taste is highly subjective. Personally, I prefer to follow the rhetorical standard set by the Greeks and the Romans, because it works extremely well. In my opinion, the Qu’ran fails that standard. I can see why someone would say a beautiful book is inspired by God. However, if we grant this argument, we must also grant that if a book does not seem to be beautiful, it can’t have been inspired by God. To me, both positions sound like non-sequiturs.
Qur’an is the most beatiful book on the world. But a mountain seems as small as a stone from far away. You evaluate Qur’an from very far away. You must get closer.
Secondly, if the argument from popularity has any merit, then surely you’ll understand that the Bible is the true word of God and not the Qu’ran? Christians outnumber Muslims by hundreds of millions of people. So be careful if you wish to claim popularity as a standard for the divinity of books.
Both Qur’an and Bible are word of God. Why one must be but other not? If a book is popular for all times hence a writer can see all times could write.
Then I have misunderstood you. I thought you wanted the claim the Qu’ran was written by God because it teaches morality. The point I made was this: If Muslims do not behave more morally than non-Muslims, then either the Qu’ran is not the word of God or all other holy books are also the word of God - which contradicts the Qu’rans supposed uniqueness. This problem becomes even more complicated when Muslims don’t behave more morally than secular humanists. Does that mean God’s morality is on the same level as godless morality?
Muslims are moral for the most part. But Muslims got away from Qur’an a bit since some centuries. So they cannot demonstrate moral of Qur’an exactly. Secular humanist evaluate everything for their benefits. Of course they may have moral. They are creatures of God too and they can behave morally. If a human obey God exactly so he can be the most moral.
I also made the case that the Islamic world is now less moral than the partly Christian, partly secular West. For one thing, when was the last time you heard a secular humanist kill someone for his non-belief? Yet this is routine in the land of Mecca and Medina. Again, I’m not pointing to extremists here. Apostasy is punished almost everywhere in the Islamic world. It’s immoral if people can’t leave Islam to become a non-believer or a Christian.
Christians are people of book so they may be moral. But if you live in Islamic countries you will be able to see most high morality. You evaluate by some politics.
I agree that the Qu’ran is not a scientific book, yet it does make testable predictions that can be verified or falsified. I already mentioned embryology, geology and human origins. Science has solved questions on which the Qu’ran was just flatout wrong.
There is no any wrong in Qur’an. Nobody can claim that. If someone could prove that Muslims would not follow Qur’an any more. The scientific invention support Qur’an. Many knowledges of Qur’an can be understood by time.
It is interesting that you mentioned atoms. The existence of atoms was already argued by Lucretius in the poem De Rerum Natura (on the nature of things), about 650 years before the Qu’ran. Lucretius took inspiration from Epicurus, Leucippus and Democritus. The last two philosophers lived a millenium before the Qu’ran. You can’t claim the Qu’ran is divine revelation when the atoms were being discussed a thousand years before the Qu’ran appeared.
I do not say Qur’an invent atom. I say Qur’an inform very correctly from every point of universe.

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want to emphasize this. The reason I quote the Greeks and Romans is precisely because their work was not regarded as scripture or as a religious text. And also because they predate Islam by centuries.
Religious knowledge is not kind of scientific. Just think if God had informed about electromagnetic radition or waves so what would people understand in that times? But God point some scientifical inventions in scriptures.
The context of chapter 27 makes clear that the author wrote about what happens on judgement day. Whoever wrote it certainly did not think his words reflected the actual geological situation at that point. And mountains are not the same as tectonic plates.
Tectonic plates move as clouds move.
Wait, you just wrote that the Qu’ran says continental drift is real. Now you write that the crust of the earth is fixed by mountains? Here are the facts:
Earthquakes and mountains are both the result of plate tectonics. You can google “earthquakes map” and you will find out that most earthquakes happen along fault lines. And no mountain can stop that. The largest mountains, the Himalaya mountain range, is the product of the Indian plate colliding with the eurasian plate. India is being dragged below Asia, which pushes ocean floor sediments wedged between the plates skyhigh. That’s also why you can find seashells on mountain tops.

Mountains are not fixed and they do not prevent earthquakes.
Mountains do not stop it but decrease the effects. If there would not be mountains the earthquake would be more hard. The mountains are like pegs on the two plates which crash and mount on each others. When two earth plate crash the mountains arise. It is as if the mountain hold two plates.
 
The Holy Bible is actually the most read book in the world. The Qur’an, of course, is certainly a widely-read book. You may think this is just bias because I’m a Christian, but this is a reliable source.

It’s the same with the Bible, and especially the Torah with the most devout Jews. I guess we all have holy books that inspire the people to read, and they search for that knowledge.

The Bible and Torah do, too. They are both considered to be revelation from God by their faiths, both teach moral laws, and science is demonstrated throughout

The Bible is much longer than the Qur’an. It’s just that there’s more text. The Qur’an has just under 80,000 words of text, the Authorized King James version of the Bible has just over 783,000 words (and the Catholic Bible, having 7 more books, contains much more). But they both have doctrine! 😉

Many people make many claims, and one is that their holy book is! 👍
The issue is not about edition or selling. One Qur’an is being read many times permanent.

Bible and Torah are regarded like Qur’an but by the original revelation which came to Moses and Jesus. Qur’an mention Torah and Bible many times.
 
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