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hasantas
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If someone has no faithful knowledges about faith such books may harm. So it is not useful to read such books. But if you think you are aware enough to read so you can.
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KildareBrigid
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How can you prove this?The issue is not about edition or selling. One Qur’an is being read many times permanent.
Then why was he under a death sentence ?If someone has no faithful knowledges about faith such books may harm. So it is not useful to read such books. But if you think you are aware enough to read so you can.
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ThundersnowIV
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The Bible is the only pure Word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit. You asked so I answered.Qur’an is the book which is most being red. Espesially in nowadays of Ramadan Qur’an is being red in Mosques and homes. In Mosques Hafizs read and other Muslims listen to Qur’an. In Ramadan many Muslim try to read whole Qur’an in Ramadan. That is at least 20 pages per day. Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read. That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God. Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws. Qur’an teach or point all sciences. A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc. And all those make Qur’an miraculous. Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
Peace to you and a blessed Ramadan.
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ThundersnowIV
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The Bible is in its original text. It has been translated into different lanquages…but the meaning is identical. Because the Koran says the Bible is corrupt means nothing to God.Yes. Perhaps the original text should be.
Again…Peace and a blessed Ramadan
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ThundersnowIV
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What does reading a book in a particular language have to do with being correct? The Koran is printed in many lanquages. I also take exception to you saying all Muslims read the Koran in Arabic. I doubt Muslims in southeast Asia do…particularly the less educated.Maybe. Qur’an is the most read book for anytime and for centuries. I(Muslims) respect Torah and Bible. Both scriptures have a special value and Muslims also regard. Muslim recognise all scriptures as word of God. But Qur’an is unique to hold the originality.
Do all Christians read Bible in same language? No. But all Muslims even kids and uneducated people read Qur’an in Arabic. Reading Qur’an is a kind of worship. Millions of Muslims read Qur’an every day.
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ThundersnowIV
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Evolution has not stopped. It continues this very day. The fact that large scale evolution takes millions of years makes it imperceptible in ones lifetime.Muhammad could not read or write. He was not aware of Greek. Every Arab was very amazed how a man like Muhammad could say such things. Some question about evolution.
Every cell is produced from a present cell. In nature a cell does not come into being from scratch. If it was possible for a cell to be consist by atoms gathering randomly hence there would be many samples but there is no. And of course there is no intermediate forms. And why did evolution stop? Of course there is no any explain for senses.
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TheSurvivor
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It is well documented that Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, was crucified by the Roman authorities but the Qur’an incorrectly states: “Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” Can you tell me your thoughts on this?Of course.
It is also said that Muhammad ‘married’ a girl(Aisha) who was 4 years old. How could this be moral in anyway?
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Lenten_ashes
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Hello Hasantas.Muhammad could not read or write. He was not aware of Greek. Every Arab was very amazed how a man like Muhammad could say such things. Some question about evolution.
Every cell is produced from a present cell. In nature a cell does not come into being from scratch. If it was possible for a cell to be consist by atoms gathering randomly hence there would be many samples but there is no. And of course there is no intermediate forms. And why did evolution stop? Of course there is no any explain for senses.
Muhammed had Christian slaves and that would explain where he was getting his info from. It would also explain why it was not totally accurate as said slaves only got piece-meal back then and didn’t possess actual books of their own.
Because as a Christian I do not believe he was receiving any kind of revelation from a angel. So this is a natural explanation.
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Zeno11
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‘But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a divine curse! As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you embraced, let him be under a divine curse! Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.…’Qur’an is the book which is most being red. Espesially in nowadays of Ramadan Qur’an is being red in Mosques and homes. In Mosques Hafizs read and other Muslims listen to Qur’an. In Ramadan many Muslim try to read whole Qur’an in Ramadan. That is at least 20 pages per day. Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read. That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God. Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws. Qur’an teach or point all sciences. A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc. And all those make Qur’an miraculous. Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
Gal !:9
… Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son can have the Father; whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.…’
1 John 2:22
That puts an end to that, then.
He who has ears, let him hear.
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Kliska
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Proof? As you say, we can’t look only at things like “most sold” or “number printed,” etc…Qur’an is the book which is most being red.
And the scriptures are read everyday by the Jewish people, and by Christians… The Catholics here can testify to that in the churches. And, we can all, Jews and Christians, can testify that many many believers read scripture every single day in synagogues and churches, as well as in our homes, at all times of the year. That doesn’t prove which book is true; Bible or Qur’an.Espesially in nowadays of Ramadan Qur’an is being red in Mosques and homes. In Mosques Hafizs read and other Muslims listen to Qur’an.
As this is an opinion question; there are books equal to the Qur’an, and books actually given by God which are holy scripture given by God Himself, first to the Jews, then to the Christians. I can’t speak for everyone else here, but for me, the Bible, as the word of God, is extraordinarily valuable to teach of God, to bring us closer to God, to help us praise God, worship God, love God, be amazed by God, to teach us His Law and what it means, how to live, how to die, and most important, to show us straight to Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, Who in turn puts us in right relationship to God, and in that relationship to truly be able to call God; Father, and to read of His love. The Bible is the story of my family. No corruption, just truth.In Ramadan many Muslim try to read whole Qur’an in Ramadan. That is at least 20 pages per day. Here the fruit is that: People do not read but Qur’an make them to read. I mean it is charm of Qur’an which make people to read. That fascinating of Qur’an is sourced from pure revelation from God. Qur’an(pure words of God) foster moral heart and the mind. And it is also a bit musical. Qur’an teach how to pray and worship. Qur’an teach the moral laws. Qur’an teach or point all sciences. A child can memorize the whole Qur’an. etc. etc. And all those make Qur’an miraculous. Is there any book equal to Qur’an?
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hasantas
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If evolution did not stop hence why monkeys do not transfrom human! Are monkeys the most perfect level of evolution? There is no any intermediate form of fossile which demonstrate that a genus transfom to other. Evolution in meaning of development is viable but evolution in meaning of genus transform is not observed. I mean even a cell cannot be exist by chances yet a genus cannot transform to other. It is so obvious. A genus is same as it was thousands years ago.Evolution has not stopped. It continues this very day. The fact that large scale evolution takes millions of years makes it imperceptible in ones lifetime.
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Kaninchen
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Do they teach you that stuff at school in your country?If evolution did not stop hence why monkeys do not transfrom human! Are monkeys the most perfect level of evolution? There is no any intermediate form of fossile which demonstrate that a genus transfom to other. Evolution in meaning of development is viable but evolution in meaning of genus transform is not observed. I mean even a cell cannot be exist by chances yet a genus cannot transform to other. It is so obvious. A genus is same as it was thousands years ago.
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hasantas
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I agree with all. Bible or Torah are also being read very much and both scriptures have many values. But that does not mean Qur’an can possess same or much more. The problem is that you do not consider Qur’an as word of God. You have very doubts about that. If you could recognise Qur’an as word of God hence you would be able to see miracle of Qur’an. Well your devil(evil thoughts) and ego is very hard to see the fact.Proof? As you say, we can’t look only at things like “most sold” or “number printed,” etc…
And the scriptures are read everyday by the Jewish people, and by Christians… The Catholics here can testify to that in the churches. And, we can all, Jews and Christians, can testify that many many believers read scripture every single day in synagogues and churches, as well as in our homes, at all times of the year. That doesn’t prove which book is true; Bible or Qur’an.
As this is an opinion question; there are books equal to the Qur’an, and books actually given by God which are holy scripture given by God Himself, first to the Jews, then to the Christians. I can’t speak for everyone else here, but for me, the Bible, as the word of God, is extraordinarily valuable to teach of God, to bring us closer to God, to help us praise God, worship God, love God, be amazed by God, to teach us His Law and what it means, how to live, how to die, and most important, to show us straight to Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, Who in turn puts us in right relationship to God, and in that relationship to truly be able to call God; Father, and to read of His love. The Bible is the story of my family. No corruption, just truth.
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hasantas
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Just disprove me by evidences.Do they teach you that stuff at school in your country?
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hasantas
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Muslims read Qur’an in Salat from memorise. And there is no a very short time in which Salat is not being performed by thousands of Muslims. Do that give an idea?How can you prove this?
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Kaninchen
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Oh, I have no interest at all in convincing you of anything, I was just wondering whether, in your country, they explained the theory of evolution so that you’d understand what you’re arguing against.Just disprove me by evidences.
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KildareBrigid
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That is not proof. You continue to make general arguments that may mean something to people who already follow Islam. However, to non-muslims you are not providing any proof to what you are saying. What was your goal for starting this thread? To me it seems you are trying to tell everyone how much superior the Qur’an is. If so, you are breaking the rules of this forum.Muslims read Qur’an in Salat from memorise. And there is no a very short time in which Salat is not being performed by thousands of Muslims. Do that give an idea?
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KildareBrigid
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The thing is, if you research things that happened in the Bible (including the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ) you would see the miracles of the Bible. The same cannot be said about Islam. Since Christ’s crucifixion can be proved, then there is no need for further prophets. That makes Muhammed a false prophet. Jesus warned us not to follow false prophets so that pretty much sums up why I do not believe the Qur’an is a beautiful book.I agree with all. Bible or Torah are also being read very much and both scriptures have many values. But that does not mean Qur’an can possess same or much more. The problem is that you do not consider Qur’an as word of God. You have very doubts about that. If you could recognise Qur’an as word of God hence you would be able to see miracle of Qur’an. Well your devil(evil thoughts) and ego is very hard to see the fact.
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hasantas
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You have free will.Hello Hasantas.
Muhammed had Christian slaves and that would explain where he was getting his info from. It would also explain why it was not totally accurate as said slaves only got piece-meal back then and didn’t possess actual books of their own.
Because as a Christian I do not believe he was receiving any kind of revelation from a angel. So this is a natural explanation.
Peace
But your thought that Muhammad had learnt from slave is so baseless and very comic. You are very far away from fact. Sorry! Because Muhammad had no so educated Christian slave(ındeed I do not know if Muhammad had got yet Muhammad was used to free slaves).
Even let’s assume He had. Which slave could have so knowledges? Jews scholars and pastors could not know as much as Muhammad about Jewish and Christianity and about religion and about stories of prophets etc. etc. Again you are very very far away from fact.
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