It’s like you hear a knock on the door, and a familiar voice says “let me in, it’s your father”. You open the door to find out that it is just an imposter trying to get your attention.
In the seventh century, Mohammedanism spread the Eastern **world like a tidal wave. (Halley) and **blotted out christianity in Southwest Asia and North Africa, the Euphrates and Nile valleys, and Eastern and souther borders of the Mediterranian…the lands of “the bilbe story”.Over the course of about 600 years,the countries of the original christian world, one by one fell to the Mohammedan sword. Christianity was blotted out and mohammedanism (Islam) was established. And they have been Mohameddan ever since.
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Jacques de Molay was burned at the stake for REPUTIATING his and all his knight’s confessions.
There must be freedom to choose God or not, as well as how to serve God as one wishes, but the ability of government to ALLOW people to do that is ONLY possible if government runs on (baseline) Christian principles.
Quite so! We don’t do “jihads” because they are ultimately self defeating. Genocide is just plain wrong.
Excuse me Werman - but you are spouting gratuitous hogwash here. Are you Christian or Muslim for God’s sake?
. At least learn to spell it rightly.The title of this thread only has a tiny portion of truth. Jesus was a prophet. However the title of this thread implicitly promotes heresy and blasphemy. Jesus Christ is much more.
Amen.
Dearest James,Excuse me Werman - but you are spouting gratuitous hogwash here. Are you Christian or Muslim for God’s sake?
There never was an organization called the Nites (sp) Templer (sp) LOL
They were originally called “Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon” (Latin: Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici), commonly known as the Knights Templar or the Order of the Temple (French: Ordre du Temple or Templiers).
You have been mis-reading too many of Dan Brown’s fictions.
They in no way declared any war much less a Jihad against the Muslims. They were sent to protect the 10’s of thousands of dirt-poor farmers and commoners who walked on foot with barely a penny in their pocket to the Holy Lands to pray for their souls. This was a dangerous road full of Muslim bandits and and general rogues and highwaymen who would constantly set upon these people to abuse, kill, enslave or rob. The Knight’s Templar started off as the poorest of the poor themselves. To save money they double saddled on one horse (their shield of arms in fact). They became a favored charity and were given tax exemption and many wealthy Europeans soon started donating to their cause. Over time they advanced both in military might and wealth as new equipment, arms, men etc. as well as booty claimed from slain enemy was confiscated and sold. Eventually they got heavy armor and powerfully large warhorses and became quite formidable. One of their most famous victories was in 1177 during the Battle of Montgisard, where some 500 Templar knights helped to defeat Saladin’s army of more than 26,000 soldiers. Although the primary mission of the Order was military, relatively few members were combatants. The others acted in support positions to assist the knights and to manage the financial infrastructure. The Templar Order, though its members were sworn to individual poverty, was given control of wealth beyond direct donations.
The Templars would have become a dominant force except for petty jealousies among other knightly orders who were in the Holy Wars strictly for rights to booty, land and spoils. The Templars had loaned a large amount of their wealth to the King of France who sought relief from that debt that he never intended to repay by putting pressure on the pope to disband the order so he could escape repayment. Thus the loyal Templars were betrayed both by the Church as well as the French Monarchy and were put to hideous torture and forced to make false confessions by the very people they served. That’s the gratitude that worldly rulers have for those that serve them but who become a threat to their own power.
So please STOP the indirect NONSENCE through association to barbaric Islamic methods that the Templars where on some kind of independent Jihad. Only the barbaric Islam uses that term. We have only one concept in war - “Just War” and its usually a defensive mechanism. In fact the Holy Wars was a just war and was a hundreds of years too late response to hordes of invading Muslims who turned the Christian Churches and revered places into public urinals. Those places they left in tact without burning they did so only to force a tax out of Christian pilgrims who wanted to visit and pray to God for their souls. Islam thus incorporated a business into its demonic empire of man-made religion.
QED
James
Tells me a lot about this arrogant man and suggest he calm down or be banned!
Sorry your inability to even spell the name properly takes out any credibility on a partial knowledge of the order’s historicity.
Ed you up to your standard sock puppet tactics again - making arguments in one name then logging on in another name to pretend you have a following here? Why is it that every topic no matter how far removed from prophecy on this web site has to devolve into a personal and amateur exegesis on “end times prophecy”? Are you trying to write a book? The cut and paste pattern from Wekipedia are getting rather boring and most here are really weary of your incessant spam. Please go start your own thread and play to your hearts content in a safe sand-box rather than attempting to hijack every thread somone starts about Islam. You keep threatening to leave when people call you on it - then you come back and start it all over again each time. Are you that starved for attention?
Dearest James,
From my post 348-1Is the following a truth? ---- Islam is a Religion that imposes on all Muslims to spread the Islam faith by waging war on those of other faiths and/or imposing other punishments. While Christian faiths do not wage jihads against other Religions or persons as we once did. (“Holy Wars”) We now however are expected to seek justice against any and all who do not allow freedom of choosing ones own faith or way to live. (“Dictators”)
I am sorry brother Werman - but it is clear you have a liberal predisposition that makes you want to self-flagellate our Church heritage. To even compare the Catholic Church’s involvement in The Crusades to “Jihad” is a severe disservice to the honor and unimaginable sacrifice these men did for God and their Church. You try to make it sound like all the atrocities were committed by Christians when in fact it was overwhelming the Islamics who brutalized. The Christian “side” did have a few recorded atrocities but they were committed by secular forces operating in the interests of their kings and by mercenaries who the Christians insist place a cross on their tunics if they were going to fight in the name of Christ. But most of the mercenaries were NOT true Christians and were there for one thing - conquest, money, land and power. In truth the Crusader forces even hired Muslim mercenaries from warring factions to fight other Muslims! It was a grave mistake to use mixed mercenary and secular forces since they are the ones that made us lose the moral high-ground and thus the means for the Islamics to prevail.Dearest James,
I am sorry I misspelled a word – it no doubt will happen again. I will also at times be in error. I am most certainly in my learning curve of life.
It was not Jesus Christ who asked us to spread Christianity & love through jihads – Holy wars – Terrorism and Torture.
Thanks for reading
Werman
James