The Case of the Sabbath and Sola Sciptura

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Reading all the posts about SDA make me feel bad for them and even more sorry for my friend. When he told me Jesus could have sinned, I could not believe my ears. The sad part is he told me I will thank him one day for sharing the “truth” with me. I guess I will never understand the hold Ellen White have on so many ppl. I have stopped trying to help my friend because nothing seems to get through.
 
Fab82 said:
Reading all the posts about SDA make me feel bad for them and even more sorry for my friend. When he told me Jesus could have sinned, I could not believe my ears. The sad part is he told me I will thank him one day for sharing the “truth” with me. I guess I will never understand the hold Ellen White have on so many ppl. I have stopped trying to help my friend because nothing seems to get through.
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Just remember that the SDA’s use the same methods of “Bible study” to come up with a flesh hominid God the Father & creature Christ…
…As they do with the Sabbath.

Most Catholics that get DUPED into falling for this heretical teaching figure out too late that along with the Sabbath comes creature christ and other oddities…
…Then, because they have already been convinced that Ellen White was a prophet - they accept it as ‘truth’.

The best SDA creature christ killer Scripture I know of usually sends the SDA’s running for their pastor…
…It’s short and to the point - Jesus said it!

Luke 24,24
And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not. Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe ALL that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

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Luke 24,44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that ALL things MUST be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Part of the “all things” spoken by the law of Moses, the Prophets & the Pslams…
…Was that Christ would die for humanity and be guilty of NO SIN & be Resurrected on the third day.

The SDA’s as well as the other Adventist groups say NOT SO FAST Christ could have lost His salvation, He could have sinned…
…This simply demonstrates the rank Arianism their theology is built upon.
…For none of them, when asked if it’s possible that God the Father sin and die would agree it was possible.
…Yet they gloat that Christ could have.

They need our prayers and we need to EDUCATE our fellow Catholics as to their theology…
…If even the Catholics who are ignorant of their own faith knew about this the SDA’s wouldn’t get as many sheep as they do!
 
Pythons said:
Amen po18guy! I’m with ya - the average catholic has no idea how dedicated the average sda is to converting them and unfortunately it’s those Catholics who are so ignorant of their own faith that they don’t see a problem with teachings that claim Jesus is only God because He was able to meet the conditions of keeping the deity the real God loaned to Him.
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For such a comparatively small sect, it is amazing how many sites there are both for, and by those who have left the organization. Of course, the SDA get a huge helping hand from the MSM, whose jaundiced eye toward the Catholic Church only eggs the SDA on.
 
stevekehl said:
Yes, if only we had someone to tell us what to do. What you have here is a matter of opinion on which day to worship on. The day we worship is not a matter of salvation, therefor we are free to worship whatever day we want (ever take communion on a Tuesday?). Let’s look at that Bible us common folk can’t understand. The book of Acts tells us that Jesus ascended on a Thursday, 40 days after His resurrection, and his followers worshiped Him beforehand (Acts 1:3). The early church was at the Temple daily worshiping God and witnessing(Acts 2:46-47). And we learn from Acts 15 that Gentiles are not bound by the law of Moses and only instructed to abstain from sexual immorality, idols, the meat of strangled animals and eating blood, no mention of keeping the Sabbath. Also Paul wrote that people will hold different days as holy (Rom. 14:5) and that was ok. Rather than showing that we need some overarching authority so everyone believes, worships, acts, dresses, sings, and prays the same, Christians worshiping on different days shows the freedom we have in Christ.
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The “Lord’s day”. Ever heard of it?
 
po18guy said:
For such a comparatively small sect, it is amazing how many sites there are both for, and by those who have left the organization. Of course, the SDA get a huge helping hand from the MSM, whose jaundiced eye toward the Catholic Church only eggs the SDA on.
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It’s similar to the gay agenda - it’s pushed by a tiny minority but they squak very loud and are very active…
…That’s all that’s going on here with those folks.
…BTW what is the MSM?
 
Pythons said:
It’s similar to the gay agenda - it’s pushed by a tiny minority but they squak very loud and are very active…
…That’s all that’s going on here with those folks.
…BTW what is the MSM?
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Main Stream Media (even this title is inaccurate, because they are not in the mainstream)
 
Pythons said:
Here are a few more posts about the SDA’s…
…Porknpie is right - they seem to be obsessed with thinking Catholics are going to kill them.
…For their worship of their God on the Gregorian Saturday.
…Here is some more reading material for ya.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=9364041&postcount=33

And there was a rather large discussion about SDA at the following…
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=560684&page=7
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Thank you! I have been trying to read about SDA’s as much as I can so I can be prepared just in case anything comes up!

God Bless!
 
po18guy said:
They are huge on the Book of Daniel, even though the very same bible tells them that no matter of scriptural prophecy is of any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20). If you read the bio of their foundress, you will find that she received a serious/life threatening head injury and was in a coma for three weeks. Then, she worked in the hat-making business and was exposed to mercury. Only after those two experiences did she begin receiving “visions” which she passed on and which fellow believers accepted as revealed from God.

We are still waiting for their prediction to come true that the Catholic Church will pass an American national law enforcing Sunday worship on them…

So, Ellen, how’s the Catholic Church doing as far as influencing the US government lately?
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Po,

These are interesting in that as you know the Dispenastional Rapture belief comes from the mind of a deranged woman whose name escapes me and Joseph Smith had a prediliction for hats.
 
stevekehl said:
Yes, if only we had someone to tell us what to do. What you have here is a matter of opinion on which day to worship on. The day we worship is not a matter of salvation, therefor we are free to worship whatever day we want (ever take communion on a Tuesday?). Let’s look at that Bible us common folk can’t understand. The book of Acts tells us that Jesus ascended on a Thursday, 40 days after His resurrection, and his followers worshiped Him beforehand (Acts 1:3). The early church was at the Temple daily worshiping God and witnessing(Acts 2:46-47). And we learn from Acts 15 that Gentiles are not bound by the law of Moses and only instructed to abstain from sexual immorality, idols, the meat of strangled animals and eating blood, no mention of keeping the Sabbath. Also Paul wrote that people will hold different days as holy (Rom. 14:5) and that was ok. Rather than showing that we need some overarching authority so everyone believes, worships, acts, dresses, sings, and prays the same, Christians worshiping on different days shows the freedom we have in Christ.
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Steve,

As I recall the Bible has passages that say worship was daily. How many communities worship at Church daily?
 
CopticChristian said:
Steve,

As I recall the Bible has passages that say worship was daily. How many communities worship at Church daily?
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Good point! How many bible Christians today envision or encounter God primarily in the bible, and worship Him only on Sunday? Where is He the rest of the week? What if He goes out of print?
 
MariSan said:
Thank you! I have been trying to read about SDA’s as much as I can so I can be prepared just in case anything comes up!

God Bless!
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The more I better understand what the Catholic Church teaches the more I realize the best books to read about SDAism…
…Are the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Sacred Scriptures, the E.C.F.'s & Catholic Radio.
…If one understands the basics and treats them as “marker buoys” heretical teaching just JUMPS out at you.
…I.E. it’s VERY easy to see.
 
po18guy said:
The “Lord’s day”. Ever heard of it?
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The Lord’s day was a reference to the day Jesus rose from the dead. The Day of the Lord also refers to judgement day (see Daniel). I know most Catholics would rather research the Magesterium or catechism instead of the Bible, but there is no commandment to worship on Sunday. Jesus said this do in remembrance of me, not take this every Sunday morning while you are at mass. I worship on Sunday because that is when my church meets to worship. Sunday is the traditional day of worship, but there is no prohibition against worshiping other days. Freedom, try some.
 
CopticChristian said:
Steve,

As I recall the Bible has passages that say worship was daily. How many communities worship at Church daily?
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You are correct, and I included them in my post.
I don’t have to be in church to worship God. Wherever two or more are gathered in Jesus name He is there also (Matt 18:20). When I visit a sick friend and I read some encouraging Scripture, talk and pray together Jesus is there with us, no matter what day of the week. I bought my daughter a tatoo for her 18th birthday and spent 20 minutes talking to the tatoo artist about Jesus, God, and Christianity. It might not be singing psalms, but I was doing the Lord’s work, and on a Saturday. :eek:
Do you have a devotion with your family daily? You are worshiping. Do you tell your young children Bible stories and pray with them? You are worshiping. Daily worship is about as hard as walking, praise the Lord.
Lastly, Scripture does not reveal that we are commanded to worship at church every day, just records that the earliest followers were so joyful and enthusiastic they worshiped and witnessed every day at the Temple.
 
po18guy said:
Good point! How many bible Christians today envision or encounter God primarily in the bible, and worship Him only on Sunday? Where is He the rest of the week? What if He goes out of print?
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The gates of hell will prevail?
 
stevekehl said:
The Lord’s day was a reference to the day Jesus rose from the dead. The Day of the Lord also refers to judgement day (see Daniel). I know most Catholics would rather research the Magesterium or catechism instead of the Bible, but there is no commandment to worship on Sunday. Jesus said this do in remembrance of me, not take this every Sunday morning while you are at mass. I worship on Sunday because that is when my church meets to worship. Sunday is the traditional day of worship, but there is no prohibition against worshiping other days. Freedom, try some.
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Steve, how do you know that your private interpretation (ore your community’s private interpretation) of scripture is correct?
 
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