The Catholic church did not give us the Bible

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=Bill Pick-Asking question as this I,l bet you got good mark in History and it looks like you not much at reading a new paper or are you just slow.
***Dear brother in Christ,

No matter the question and merits or lack thereoff the responce has to be LOVE:heart:*

Jesus permits nothing less:signofcross:**

Love and prayers and THANKS!
 
I am sorry, but my list of compliments is officially closed. See my signature.🙂

You might by really trying to get another entry on my list, but I am not opening it up any more.🙂

Besides, your compliment:

was absolutely priceless.👍👍👍

I don’t think you can beat that one anyway.🙂

My goodness, looking at this list again, I am really impressed. People in your church are Soooo nice.:grouphug::grouphug:

But the grand prize winner still is
NotTooSmart: It appears that the discussions here are just a game to you. Most of us take Christianity very seriously.

In Christ,
Anna
 
…unless you also want to say that the Catholic church gave us the inquisition and the priest sex abuse scandals.

The point being that you can not take credit for the positive while at the same time pass the buck on the negative. A little consistency on this please.
All you have done is espoused ignorance and bigotry by your remarks. I challenge you to show me in Sacred Scripture, the CCC, or any other Catholic document where a pedophile/predator behavior is approved of, supported by the CC, and generally accepted by the faithful. **You can NOT!!! **A pedophile priest was a pedophile/predator before he was a priest, and it could have ties to homosexuality or not I do not know or care. Pedophiles/predators are notorious for seeking out positions that put them in close proximity of potential victims e.g. teachers, scout leaders, day care workers, and yes even Christian: Pentecostal/Charismatic pastors, Christian: Pentecostal/Charismatic youth pastors and any number of other denomination you wish to list. The priesthood is just one of them. Yes, the CC mishandled the initial out cry of abuse, either due to lack of experience, ability, or willing cover up, but it is now being dealt with, as it should be. The victims are in need of our prayers for healing and we need to pray for the CC to take the right path in dealing with this issue. The CC is not made up of Saints who are perfect, rather it is made up of sinners, and all are sinners, even you. So to come here with such malicious statements really shows just how shallow your grasp on Christianity is and shows how little Christian Charity you really posses.
 
You know, I really wanted to let this go, you know drop it, and change my signature and all of that.

But it seems with all of the new compliments coming in, I just can’t.
What a piece of work. You sure did choose your username well.
You make zero sense and you know it,
yet you just want to troll and (successfully) get a rise out of people for who knows what reason?
I don’t think you even care about those that were abused:
Yes, people like yourself are the gates of HELL who try to put down the Catholic Church and have been doing so for centuries and yet, “IT” still stands and yes Jesus Christ is correct WHEN HE SPEAKS ABOUT YOU, yes YOU, that YOU will not prevail over it!
Asking question as this I,l bet you got good mark in History and it looks like you not much at reading a new paper or are you just slow.
God help this person and keep him/her in your prays, The good abut this post is the person handle and boy it is right on the money NotTooSmart,say bye
Well your name is NotToo Smart and you think you are a hitwit and no one is argee with you.
Like the name said NotTooSmart this person got this question fron some Penteecostal site and may be the dumbist question I have ever seen on this board and makes no sense at all. Non of the sexual abuse Priseit are not living at the time of the inquistion and the people from the sex Abuse are not living …So the right person has ask the right question NOT TOO SMART
Ok. I’ve been reading some of nottoosmart posts. And first let me say his name suits him/her to a tee.He/she seems very jealous of the Church.
Yes we have problems with pedophile riest", but at least we are dealing with it. Unlike like the people like nottoosmart. Who point fingers and yell “Look at them” in a hope of drawing attention away from their own faults.
Just shows me that you are either a person who is a total idiot who cannot tell the difference between true catholic teaching and a jack trick lie. Or you’re just someone who is just acting stupid on this matter so you can insult the church which is something you are obviously jealous of.
NotTooSmart: It appears that the discussions here are just a game to you. Most of us take Christianity very seriously.
You can dish it out but you can’t take it.
So to come here with such malicious statements really shows just how shallow your grasp on Christianity is and shows how little Christian Charity you really posses.
And you nottoosmart" can go to your Brothel you call a church.
'll keep you in my prayers, you have a lot of demons.
I find it fascinating that I am the evil one here, not the one that said I have a lot of demons or the one that said my church is a Brothel and all of the other stuff above. Fascinating,
So it is ok with all of you for somebody to say that I have a lot of demons and somebody else to say that my church is a Brothel, but it is not ok for me to call you all out on this, in a somewhat facetious way yes, but I was hoping you all would get the point.

And the point is that it is Just Not OK to say that somebody has a lot of demons that you only know over the internet. Or to say that my church is a Brothel.

And if this is “such a game to me”, why don’t you check out my thread on church history and same sex marriage. I was actually thinking on starting another on John Wesley and Sola Scriptura (because John Wesley is an early Protestant that I like and I find him more complex than given credit for…and I don’t know if he is Sola Scriptura or not.

But since this is “just a game for me”, why bother.

The reason why I even started this thread is that my mind is such to seek out apparant contradictions, explore them, and try to reconcile them. It is just the way it works.

You know, if you all actually took the time to get to know me and understand where I am coming from instead of judging me before knowing me, you might actually conclude that I am not who you all have prejudged that I am.

Anyway, I get the point. I am just a heretic Protestant who goes to an inferior church to the one true church, and you all, by virtue of belonging to this one true church, can say the things you say.

I know now that I am not welcome here.

And I know that this thread will get flamed in response to this. You see I am the bad guy.

But I will not respond. Since I am obviously not welcome here.
 
…unless you also want to say that the Catholic church gave us the inquisition and the priest sex abuse scandals.

The point being that you can not take credit for the positive while at the same time pass the buck on the negative. A little consistency on this please.
Gabriel of 12;

Your are correct Not Too Smart, the Catholic church did not give us the bible. So your further misinformed accusations fall away.

God gave humanity his word and God inspired men to record it for all ages. What the Catholic Church did is excercise her God given authority (see Matthew 16:19) to bind which book is inspired of God and which books were not inspired of God.

The Catholic Church canonized the books of the bible as inspired of God with the Help of the Holy Spirit. She did not give us the bible (Word of God) God gave us his Word, the body of Jesus Christ which is The Catholic Church (Pillar and foundation of Truth) with Jesus the head in heaven excercising the binding and loosing authority what ever Peter and the Catholic Church bind and loosed.

You know, the scandals in the body of Jesus Christ has been around since Judas betrayed Jesus, Peter denied Jesus 3x’s, and his disciples abandoned Jesus. Thank God for the blood of the lamb that reconciles us back to God, including you and me.

To persecute the Catholic Church always confirms she is standing in Truth, just as Jesus was persecuted, the Catholic church is not immuned here. So the inquisition and the priest scandal is not the best that the Catholic Church has been scandalized by, nor are they the last.

Peace be with you
 
Gabriel of 12;

Your are correct Not Too Smart, the Catholic church did not give us the bible. So your further misinformed accusations fall away.

God gave humanity his word and God inspired men to record it for all ages. What the Catholic Church did is excercise her God given authority (see Matthew 16:19) to bind which book is inspired of God and which books were not inspired of God.

The Catholic Church canonized the books of the bible as inspired of God with the Help of the Holy Spirit. She did not give us the bible (Word of God) God gave us his Word, the body of Jesus Christ which is The Catholic Church (Pillar and foundation of Truth) with Jesus the head in heaven excercising the binding and loosing authority what ever Peter and the Catholic Church bind and loosed.

You know, the scandals in the body of Jesus Christ has been around since Judas betrayed Jesus, Peter denied Jesus 3x’s, and his disciples abandoned Jesus. Thank God for the blood of the lamb that reconciles us back to God, including you and me.

To persecute the Catholic Church always confirms she is standing in Truth, just as Jesus was persecuted, the Catholic church is not immuned here. So the inquisition and the priest scandal is not the best that the Catholic Church has been scandalized by, nor are they the last.

Peace be with you
Great answer.👍
 
Hi!
This issue is not that important to me that I wish to spend another 16 pages debating it. In fact it is not that important to me for 1 more page.

In contrast to this we have the issue of “same sex marriage” where in my stupid, uninformed, mind we have had agreement between Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox for the last 2000 years or so until some mainline Protestant denomination (in the west only no less, the east and developing nations want no part of this) have discovered a better idea.
Read my signature. Then after that, read it again…👍
 
…unless you also want to say that the Catholic church gave us the inquisition and the priest sex abuse scandals.

The point being that you can not take credit for the positive while at the same time pass the buck on the negative. A little consistency on this please.
The Pope approved of the Bible before it was published. His approval was actually necessary, in order for it to be published.

By contrast, the Pope did not approved of any kind of sex scandals. Nor did he approve of any kind of torture, with regard to the Inquisitions. (The original concept of the Inquisition is actually a good idea, and is the basis of our modern legal system - it is simply, to ask questions and make certain of the facts, before finding the person guilty of whatever he has been charged with.)
 
The Pope approved of the Bible before it was published. His approval was actually necessary, in order for it to be published.

By contrast, the Pope did not approved of any kind of sex scandals. Nor did he approve of any kind of torture, with regard to the Inquisitions. (The original concept of the Inquisition is actually a good idea, and is the basis of our modern legal system - it is simply, to ask questions and make certain of the facts, before finding the person guilty of whatever he has been charged with.)
In fact, the Inquisition was a government issue. Queen Isabella was the one who wanted a Catholic nation. Neither did the pope approve of this either.
 
This is simply an confused person with allot of animosity against the church. IF one is to embrace an counterfeit religion they tend to envy the Holy Church finding anything to attack it for oneself comfort or justification.

I once a protestant in college at Liberty to become a pastor came out catholic instead. I memorized and thaught I know the meaning of verse after Bible verse, but was amazed once I stepped outside of my narrow views taught growing up and started reading and learning more about the actual history, languages and so on of the Bible that my protestant undersanding of the bible was so far off from the authentic original understanding of the words and actions of the bible. There is more than enough to aloow confidence that the Bible was given by God through the Catholic church. To dispute it is simply uneducated and inacurrate.

In reference to the Priest who shamed the church, none of us where there to fully understand the story as as when the Catholic church knew and what exactly they where doing. As christ does the church does not turn there back on anyone if the truely repent and that would have been the case with these priest. What they did is a disgrace and repulses me but at the same time just because a couple of bad apples fell of the apple tree doesnt make the tree or the 1,000 other apples bad.

No matter what it is more than obviouse that the foundation of your post was simply hate and there is nothing of Christ in that! I will pray for you!
 
Then it was the Catholic Church, the pillar and ground of truth, that gave us the priest sex abuse scandals.
Show me the official Bishops’ Councils that recommended for priests to do this, and show me the Papal decree that promulgated priestly sexual abuse throughout the world.

You can’t, because they don’t exist.

By contrast, these were the necessary ingredients that caused the Bible to come into existence.
 
Show me the official Bishops’ Councils that recommended for priests to do this, and show me the Papal decree that promulgated priestly sexual abuse throughout the world.

You can’t, because they don’t exist.

By contrast, these were the necessary ingredients that caused the Bible to come into existence.
NotTooSmart can only rely on the priest scandal. He doesn’t realize it is happening in his church as we speak…
 
maybe some of the posters haven’t responded with the most charity, but you have to understand how much hatred and lies we see directed at Christ’s Church all the time. She is sacred to us. if you had a life-threatening illness and the physician capable of saving your life was rude would you still refuse his medical advice?

this is a very important issue so please get you emotions in control and look at the facts.

i watched the series mannyfit75 posted and it is clear, factual and informative.

as a Christian you owe it to yourself to take some time and watch. ask Christ to open your eyes to the truth.

youtube.com/watch?v=nthLboMozm0

peace.
 
My dear Catholic friends, please do not judge all Protestants by NotTooSmart’s appalling attacks on the Catholic Church.

Anna
 
The Bible says, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God.” 2 Timothy 3:16. “Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:21. “The scripture cannot be broken.” John 10:35.

It was written by men who were guided by the Holy Ghost. It cannot be broken or proved untrue.
 
My dear Catholic friends, please do not judge all Protestants by NotTooSmart’s appalling attacks on the Catholic Church.

Anna
We do not, we consider Protestants to be our separated brothers and sisters, :)however when there is ignorance, bigotry, and outright malicious attacks there needs to be an immediate, factual, and strong rebuff. You will notice that most responses will state something like “Some Protestants, a few Protestants, or something to that effect” to identify those who are acting in an unchristian manner.

Two issues that really chap my hide is when there are attacks on the Blessed Mother and the Priesthood.
 
Actually the Catholic Church was the first church. All the other churches are break-offs from the original church. It may have not been perfect, but who is? Jesus said His Grace would cover our sins. The Vulgate, the first Bible, was written in Latin, therefore it is Catholic.

I see no correlation between the Bible and the bad behavior of the priests? How many non-catholic ministers have been caught in the act of bad behavior? A very poor argument!
 
My dear Catholic friends, please do not judge all Protestants by NotTooSmart’s appalling attacks on the Catholic Church.

Anna
Gabriel of 12;

“a sure sign of not possessing the truth. When a man gives way in matters of ideals, of honour or of faith, that man is a man without ideals, without honour and without faith”
(St. Josemaria Escriva. The Way, 394)

What can come against “Truth” when Truth brings light which causes the darkness to scatter, she does not pass judement on know one. Just as Truth (Jesus) stood before Pilate, who authorized Truth to be crucified.

It is Truth that is being persecuted here, not Protestants.

Peace be with you
 
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