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Hisalone
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Rob is may be more helpfull if you tell me what that sin is. Sometimes asking forgiveness from someone that you sinned against can be harmfull to that person.
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Hisalone
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Rob this is where we disagree with Catholics You can confess your sins directly to God. God calls those who are Christian His sons. Does a son need someone to go to the father for him? God wants longs for and desires this type of relationship with all of us, a personal one on one.
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jmcrae
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We find Christ’s instructions to the Apostles regarding this wonderful Sacrament in John 20:22. Notice that Christ breathes on them. The only other time He breathed on anyone like that was when He breathed the breath of life into Adam. So from this we know that He is doing something more important than simply making a comment, off to the side. This is a central event taking place here - these words of His to the Apostles, to go forth and hear the sins of the people to forgive them of their sins (or not), are not just some kind of strange Hebrew greeting.
We find Christ making it possible for men to forgive sins in His person in Matthew 9:2-8. Note especially verse 8, which states, But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.
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jmcrae
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This is one of the secondary reasons why confessing first to a priest is very beneficial - because he can guide you in the proper way to approach the person from whom you need to ask forgiveness. (The primary reason is to receive forgiveness for your sins from Christ, of course.)
It would be the height of foolishness to confess one’s sins to a random stranger on the Internet. There is a reason for the seal of the Confessional - strangers do not need to be made aware of our sins.
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Bill_Pick
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When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained
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NotTooSmart
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Bill:
I am going to respectfully ask that you please stop with the insults.
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robsully
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Hello Hisalone.
I’m new at this. So I am unsure what sin it is to call anothers church a brothel.
Or refer Protestant to intolerate, judgemental, slanderous, insulting, petty, and clueless.
Are these sins or just poor behavior?
I’m new at this. So I am unsure what sin it is to call anothers church a brothel.
Or refer Protestant to intolerate, judgemental, slanderous, insulting, petty, and clueless.
Are these sins or just poor behavior?
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robsully
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Hello jmcrea.
I have read John 20:22 and have a few questions.
I have read John 20:22 and have a few questions.
- How does Jesus’ instructions to his follows transpire 2000 years later?
- How were sins forgiven prior to John 20:22?
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Nominefili
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If only there were a God-pleasing way for clergymen to channel their sexual energy. I know the Catholic church has a sacrament for it… it’s on the tip of my tongue…
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PRmerger
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Are you referring to the Eucharist, Nom? The Sacrament of greatest intimacy in which sexual energy is an icon for the Marriage Feast of the Lamb?
Is that what you mean? If so, you have a very insightful, profound and CATHOLIC understanding of the Eucharist!
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MandiMija
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What on EARTH makes you think that the Catholic church is the only church plagued by sex abuse problems? While this doesn’t excuse them, I’d argue that they’re the best publicized, but by no means the most prevalent.
I grew up Protestant, and I could tell you stories that would make your blood curdle about sexual abuse problems in various Protestant denominations. In my humble opinion, this reflects badly on the individuals committing the issues and those who choose to cover them up, not on the overall church itself, regardless of the denomination.
It seems to me, NTS, that you’re more bent on antagonizing a group you have chosen not to agree with rather than engaging in any kind of dialogue. No one here is demanding that you change your beliefs, but if you demand that you be listened to, logic would follow that you would be open do doing the same.
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Magnus1981
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Wow, so men should get married just so they can “channel” their sexual energy? Wives are sexual objects and only exist to satisfty the sexual needs of their husbands? I can’t see how a man can honour and love his wife while at the same time using her to channel his sexual energy.
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Nominefili
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All I’m saying is, I read Genesis, and I don’t think it said, “A man if he’s not a priest shall leave his father and his mother, and be united with his wife if she’s not a nun, and the two shall become one flesh.”
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ccolley2
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The Catholic Church has no monopoly on sin. There have been numerous situations where Protestant leaders have been involved in sex scandals. Even the Apostles were no angels. Peter denied knowing Christ three times. All of the Apostles ran away when he was arrested. One sold him to his enemies for twenty pieces of silver. And one doubted his resurrection. No Catholic is trying to pass the buck on the negative aspects of Church history. The only thing that the inquisition, the Crusades and the sex abuse scandals prove is that the Church is full of sinners. As St.Ambrose said “The Church is like an ark, it holds both saints and sinners alike.” The Church has been around for a long time, long enough to mess up…and yet, amazingly, it remains.
BTW the Catholic Church DID give Protestants their “bible”. We, Catholics even had the gall to “add” 27 books to the bible…it is called the New Testament. People who deny that the Catholic Church “gave” us the Bible, are ignorant of History.
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Hisalone
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Well Jesus once said that if youu call anyman a fool then you are in danger of hellfire.
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benedictus2
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And we have no problem with that statement. You can defnitely confess your sins directly to God. But if that is all that is requried then why did Jesus institute the sacrament of confession.
Read John 20:21. Are you saying that Jesus was doing something unnecessary here?
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benedictus2
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And exactly how does that follow? So you are saying that giving the Bible and commiting paedophilia is linked together somehow?
Oh by the way, sexual abuse is rampant in protestant Churches as well, but it seems you are blind to that fact. Take your blinders off and see clearly.
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Bill_Pick
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I am a little confused is your handle not tooSmart, How can me using your handle be a insults
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jmcrae
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The Pope and the Bishops are the lawful successors of those to whom Jesus gave this instruction. Under the power of the Keys, given to St. Peter and his successors (Bishop of Rome) in Matthew 16:18-19, the form of the Sacrament is subject to the discipline of the Church. Over time, the Sacrament has taken a couple of different forms - first of all, public Confession at the beginning of Mass, followed by public Absolution given by the presiding Bishop. (Vestiges of this remain in the Mass in the form of the Penitential Rite.) Then in the 200s AD we find that penitents are going privately to priest-Confessors to receive advice about which sins they need to confess publicly at Mass. In Ireland in the 600s AD, missionary priests found that the people were too shy to confess their sins at Mass, and were in danger of neglecting the Sacrament of Penance altogether, so they dispensed with the public aspect of it, keeping it private between priest and penitent only.
This model spread throughout the whole world and became the official norm for Confession about a hundred years later. (The Church is like a nomadic tribe that travels at the pace of its slowest member - things do not change very quickly around here.)
This is still the norm today.
You will no doubt recall that the disciples were hiding in the Upper Room behind locked doors so as not to be discovered by the Jewish authorities, and that Jesus had come to them by passing through the locked door, to greet them and to give them this instruction, after having died as the Sacrifice for sins, and having that same morning risen from the dead.
By means of public confession of sins to the Levites (Hebrew Jewish priests), together with the offering of the appropriate animal for that sin, which would then be “burned” (cooked) and eaten by the priest and penitent in a sacrificial meal together, with the burned-up parts being assumed to be being eaten by God and His Angels invisibly in union with the penitent(s) and priest(s) present at the Sacrifice. The killing of the animal was what took away the sin, and the eating of its flesh in the communal meal with God’s priest was what brought the penitent back into union with God through His priest.
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Bill_Pick
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Well lets see what NOTOOSMART is talking, about ,We had inquisition in about 1478 and the bible was put together in around 375 ad,so may be 1000 years later, and the sex scandals in 1993 so that is about 1300 years later.Long AFTER we had the Bible.so it looks like the Church gave us the Bible,the Inquisition and sorry to say the sex scandals,All of this in 2000 years and I think some one said we will always have scandals in the Church,I think the Church must be right on time.
The Cathloic Church had its sex scandals after about 1958. years
The protestants got in less then 500.
And I pray to God that all the sex scandals are over for the Cathloic and Protestants it was a disgrace for us all ,we all have to pray.
NottooSmart I hope this help you and may God bless you.
The Cathloic Church had its sex scandals after about 1958. years
The protestants got in less then 500.
And I pray to God that all the sex scandals are over for the Cathloic and Protestants it was a disgrace for us all ,we all have to pray.
NottooSmart I hope this help you and may God bless you.
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