The Catholic God is not the one I grew up with

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You seem a little bit confused on who God is going to condemn to hell and for what reasons. Bottom line is this: no one on this earth knows who is going to hell. No one. Worse still is assuming that we know what God is going to do with certain people. In the end, it is all up to God and we have to trust in His mercy and pray for those who are sinning right now. They have until their final breath to repent of their sins. I still believe God to be merciful and loving and believe that He doesn’t want any of His children to spend eternity separated from Him. God DOES love everyone – Jesus died for OUR SINS… what part of that makes you think God doesn’t love everyone?

It seems to me that the only one condemning people to hell is you, my friend. You need to pray on this!
 
To begin with, Catholicism is not a denomination. Denominations are communities that split away from the Catholic Church. All these split away from the Church at some time.

The Catholic Church has been the same and has preserved the same Sacred Tradition for 20 centuries. Any error you find is either introduced maliciously by whoever you spoke to or read from, or arises from erroneous understanding of Sacred Tradition.

Finally, a premise: God sends nobody to Hell.

Surprised?

Hell is a state in which the soul, being fully aware of God (unlike in this life, in which we see Him under the veil of faith) choses to reject Him out of hatred. The choice reflects a much greater choice, which is in turn manifest by the life lead and the works and deeds done. Nobody goes to hell against his explicit will. In fact, if you knew more about Catholic theology and the writings of the Doctors of the Church, you’d know that God is so infinitely merciful that He gives everyone the possibility to be saved, even at the very point of death, and He will never reject a penitent soul.

Now let us address your questions.
 
These are my questions based on the beliefs of Catholicism:
  1. How can our God be loving if he condemns all homosexuals (who carry out the act) to hell?
Any sexual relationship - be it heterosexual or homosexual - that is not open to life and that is geared towards lust is intrinsically evil. While God does understand that ignorance can diminish culpability (moral sin requires full knowledge and deliberate consent) there is an obligation to learn and understand the Sacrament of Matrimony and the meaning of chastity. Overall, any such sexual relationship desecrates the sexual act and gravely offends God. Whoever knows this and still does it is deliberately choosing to offend God based on selfish reasons and is not willing to sacrifice something for the love of God - he/she is rejecting God, and this rejection in this life can reflect, if no repentance is found, eternal rejection upon death.
  1. Why did the Pope hide the actions of and protect those directly involved the sexual abuse of young boys? I am very sure that our God would not condone the actions of sexual abuse no matter who you are (correct?!), so why didn’t the Pope issue any punishment?
The Pope did not do such thing as hide actions and protect those involved in the scandal. The issue is much, much more complex. I do agree that I would expect a much, much harsher stand on this issue: I would personally immediately laicize the person involved and hand him/her over to the state that they may be put in jail for life, or whatever punishment the state law has. But I am not the Pope, and the Holy See has reasons for handling things the way it does. But the Church condemns as one of the gravest (if not the single gravest) sin these abuses, and of these abusers our Lord said: “It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the deep sea”. No matter what, justice is not of this world: God will punish the abusers according to His infallible justice, and anyone who failed at punishing them on earth will also have to pay the price for this, no matter of who he was in this life.
  1. My mother had a child out of wedlock, so why are we loving a God that will condemn my mother - who is a good woman - to hell?
**So did St. Augustine of Hippo, saint and Doctor of the Church. Saint, which means we know as a fact that He is in heaven. Doctor of the Church because He received extraordinary light from the Holy Spirit.

God knows better. On this matter, it will boil down to understanding of the sin and to whatever repentance she experienced in her soul (and, if Catholic, to whether she confessed this). God never rejects a penitent soul, no matter how harsh the sin. If she was absolved, then in fact she has the assurance that eternal punishment for this sin was already forgiven by God. **
  1. Why is the Catholic church telling me who I can marry (religion-wise)? Why would a God that loves me send me to hell for not obeying the rules such as those just stated previously?
The Church does not tell you who you can marry religionwise. In fact, the Church provides dispensations to marry non-Catholics and non-Christians. The Church does tell you that you will bring trouble to yourself and to your future kids if you marry someone who lives in error and does not know God’s ways. And you would not, strictly speaking, end in hell for marrying without a dispensation. This is complicated. By the way, keep in mind: God - the God who is fully revealed to the Catholic Church and distorted or partially known by any other church or religion - is infinite wisdom and infinite mercy: if this seems unfair to you, then it is probably something that God would not do.
  1. Why am I part of a denomination that bans women from being equal to men?
Women are not equal to men. Women are women and men are men. Each has his and her own special gifts, traits, features. Each is called to fulfill a role in life, family, and society. Surely neither is above the other, strictly speaking. But there are roles that are meant for men and roles that are meant for women. Modern XXIst century society has distorted this among many other things, so I wouldn’t take it as a good teacher. Would you? Surely you want to learn more about the figure of the woman in the Catholic Church, beginning with Mary, Elizabeth, and all the saints, especially the Doctors of the Church like Teresa of Avila, the great mystica, and Therese of Lisieux, the little flower that has brought many to holiness and even to canonization.
  1. Why doesn’t God love everyone? He sure does not love non-believers as it seems like they are going to hell too.
**God loves everyone. If God ceased to love someone, this person would literally cease to exist. God sees everyone’s soul and has created everyone, man and angel, intrinsically good. Thus when angels rebelled and when men sin, God does not cease to love them, because He knows that they are not intrinsically evil. However, regarding men, who have the choice to repent, God so loved sinners that He decided that instead of being a just judge and wiping them out of the face of the earth, He would become man Himself so that He could talk to sinners face to face, teach them, move them to repentance, and in the end, take His own justice upon His own shoulders unto suffering and death. This he did for believers and nonbelievers, and for all sinners.

Do not be mistaken: salvation is fully accessible to those who, through no fault of their own (invincible ignorance) do not know Christ and His church, the Catholic Church.**
 
Hello everyone,

I am having trouble with Catholicism. When I read up more and more about this denomination, I find it to be more of a set of rules that if are not followed condemn you to hell. When I speak to my peers about my beliefs, I find their questions intriguing and I cannot seem to back Catholicism up. I am firm in my belief of the Christian God being the only One and Jesus being the Son of God. However…

These are my questions based on the beliefs of Catholicism:
  1. How can our God be loving if he condemns all homosexuals (who carry out the act) to hell?
  2. Why did the Pope hide the actions of and protect those directly involved the sexual abuse of young boys? I am very sure that our God would not condone the actions of sexual abuse no matter who you are (correct?!), so why didn’t the Pope issue any punishment?
  3. My mother had a child out of wedlock, so why are we loving a God that will condemn my mother - who is a good woman - to hell?
  4. Why is the Catholic church telling me who I can marry (religion-wise)? Why would a God that loves me send me to hell for not obeying the rules such as those just stated previously?
  5. Why am I part of a denomination that bans women from being equal to men?
  6. Why doesn’t God love everyone? He sure does not love non-believers as it seems like they are going to hell too.
I have always been a Catholic. In Sunday school, the God I was taught about was loving and did not send anyone to hell except people like murderers. As I’m growing up and reading more, I am seeing a different God, a God I should be fearful of with all these rules I must follow or expect to burn in hell and it leaves me questioning whether Catholicism is right?
That’s because it was Sunday School, and you were operating on a grade school idea of religion. Many people do because they have not grown up as far as their religious education goes, and learned the adult version, which is more serious and has more detail.

If I had a penny for every Catholic who last learned something about their faith in the 8th grade, I’d be a rich person indeed.
 
Hello everyone,

I am having trouble with Catholicism. When I read up more and more about this denomination, I find it to be more of a set of rules that if are not followed condemn you to hell. When I speak to my peers about my beliefs, I find their questions intriguing and I cannot seem to back Catholicism up. I am firm in my belief of the Christian God being the only One and Jesus being the Son of God. However…

These are my questions based on the beliefs of Catholicism:
  1. How can our God be loving if he condemns all homosexuals (who carry out the act) to hell?
  2. Why did the Pope hide the actions of and protect those directly involved the sexual abuse of young boys? I am very sure that our God would not condone the actions of sexual abuse no matter who you are (correct?!), so why didn’t the Pope issue any punishment?
  3. My mother had a child out of wedlock, so why are we loving a God that will condemn my mother - who is a good woman - to hell?
  4. Why is the Catholic church telling me who I can marry (religion-wise)? Why would a God that loves me send me to hell for not obeying the rules such as those just stated previously?
  5. Why am I part of a denomination that bans women from being equal to men?
  6. Why doesn’t God love everyone? He sure does not love non-believers as it seems like they are going to hell too.
I have always been a Catholic. In Sunday school, the God I was taught about was loving and did not send anyone to hell except people like murderers. As I’m growing up and reading more, I am seeing a different God, a God I should be fearful of with all these rules I must follow or expect to burn in hell and it leaves me questioning whether Catholicism is right?
1)God does not condemn anyone to hell. “We” do. Everyone who is in hell today chose to be there by the way they’ve lived their lives. Sin is sin. Homosexual acts are just as sinful as heterosexual sexual acts (outside marriage). Mortal sin is condemning no matter what face it takes.

2)The Pope never hid the abuse scandal. Ever. The “fact” of the matter is, he did everything to combat it the minute he learned about it. themediareport.com/fast-facts/

3)Your mother is not condemned to hell. What she did was wrong, but through confession our sins are forgiven. The child is not a sin. The sexual act outside of marriage was. A child is “always” a blessing no matter how they are conceived.

4)Who said anything about going to hell for marrying outside the faith? There are rules set in place to ensure that a Catholic marriage is Sacramental (as God intended). Anything outside of that may not be a valid marriage and then any sexual acts that are engaged in will be mortal sin (since the marriage is not valid). It has absolutely nothing to do with condemning and everything to do with the way God ordered Sacramental Matrimony.

5)Please stop calling Catholicism a denomination. It’s not. We are “pre” denominational. The fact of the matter is 100% of protestant and non denominational religions are man made. They were all created by man. Christ’s One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church was started by Jesus Christ Himself. Anytime someone says women aren’t equal to men just remind them who Mother Mary is. The QUEEN OF HEAVEN! For crying out loud! You can’t tell me that’s some kind of inequality issue. Feminists attack the Church because it doesn’t ordain women. Blessed Pope John Paul II spoke infallibly in saying that the Church does not have the power to ordain women. Why? Because Christ did not give His Church that power. Christ did not allow ordained women. Not because He hated women. Men and women are created different yet equal. We have different but equally important roles in the family structure just as we do in the Church structure. If someone says it isn’t fair for women to be Priests, simply reply with the fact that it’s not fair men can’t be nuns. Or that men can’t give birth. Everything with Catholicism, all the rules and Traditions are created by God and guided by the Holy Spirit. Period.

6)God loves everyone. Period. He loves sinners (we are all sinners without exception). Sin separates us from God. God does not hate non-Catholics. Practicing Catholics who are properly living their faith do not hate non-Catholics. When we choose to sin, we choose to separate ourselves from God. That is “our” choice. He gives us every opportunity in life to repent and confess our sins, and return to the fold. Those who are outside the Truth of our faith are only judged based on their knowledge. If someone honestly does not know about the Truth of Catholicism, then they will not be judged for it. If someone knows what the Catholic Church teaches and “chooses” to reject this Truth, then they are “choosing” to reject Christ (who created our Church and calls everyone to it to receive Him in the Eucharist and the Sacraments).

I don’t know where you get your understanding of Catholicism but it sounds almost evangelical protestant. It sounds like the usual hate filled diatribe I encounter when I evangelize to non-Catholics ignorant of the reality of Jesus Christ’s Real Presence in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that IS NOT found in any protestant man made religion.
 
Well, you have a very valid argument. But, if you believe in the Christian god, why go with any other Christian faith? God does love all of us. He just has a few simple rules that we are are encouraged to do in return for all he has done for us. And these are not just pointless rules, most of them are actually for our own good. For instance, god does not want us to marry outside of the faith, because a. It provides a common shared set of values between spouses . B. there may be conflict about values, what faith to raise the kids, ect. Which may lead to fights, infidelity, or divorce, which all lead to unhappiness.

:rose:Our lady of Guadalupe, pray for us:rose:
 
  1. How can our God be loving if he condemns all homosexuals (who carry out the act) to hell?
The Catholic Church (as well as the entirety of orthodox Christianity) accepts the fact that sin exists. Sin is, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches:
1850 Sin is an offense against God: “Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight.” Sin sets itself against God’s love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God through the will to become “like gods,” knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus “love of oneself even to contempt of God.” In this proud self- exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation.
Thus, any time we choose sin over God, and remain in that sin, we have effectively chosen to reject God because we have decided that what we think and what we feel is correct and that God is wrong. Homosexual actions are a sin, as the Church (and as orthodox Christianity) teaches. It is a sin because it is a rejection of what God has created; the marriage of one man and one woman. We know that Christ teaches that God instituted this from the beginning (Matthew 19:4-6), and thus we can say that real marriage and real sexual union occurs between one man and one woman. Anything else is a perversion of this truth about the One Flesh Union of Marriage, which Christ has even elevated into a Sacrament (something which gives grace and is a symbol of grace, God’s own life).

To use an analogy, do you ever watch Intervention? You see that many of those parents love their children deeply, but they know that the particular sin that their child is struggling with (drugs, alcohol, etc.) is something which cannot have a place in their home. The child must make the choice of choosing to get treatment (repent) or to stick with the drugs (and choose this over their families). The parents don’t hate the child, but they do this for the sake of their lives and for the sake of others. In the same way, God is all holy (1 Peter 1:16), and nothing unholy, unclean, can enter into Heaven (Revelation 21:27). Thus, those homosexuals, and all sinners for that matter, who do not repent from their sins and follow Christ, have chosen their sin over God and cannot enter into Heaven. They effectively choose hell. As the analogy has pointed out, God does not hate sinners (or else why would he send Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:13, John 3:16) to save sinners?). But God cannot allow anything unholy to enter into Heaven, nothing unclean. When sinners choose their sin over God, they have chosen what is unclean, and they cannot enter into Heaven because of their choice. This is why God is loving, because God has given us Jesus Christ, who tells us to repent and be baptized.
  1. Why did the Pope hide the actions of and protect those directly involved the sexual abuse of young boys? I am very sure that our God would not condone the actions of sexual abuse no matter who you are (correct?!), so why didn’t the Pope issue any punishment?
This is one of those things which has been constantly thrown at the Church, and which is extremely false. The Catholic Church, and especially the Pope (including our recent awesome Pope, Benedict XVI) has waged a crusade against these perpetrators of this disgusting sin. Many have been defrocked and have been reported to the police, and our current Pope has made it his mission to cleanse the Church of these people. Michael Coren, a Catholic Journalist, explains this in his book “Why Catholics are Right”. I would suggest that you rent or buy this book and read the first chapter, it explains this in far more detail.
  1. My mother had a child out of wedlock, so why are we loving a God that will condemn my mother - who is a good woman - to hell?
My first answer is also for this question. However, if your mother has repented of sin, then she’s not going to Hell. However, if she has not, then she has chosen her sin over God. We have free will, and we must choose to repent and follow God. And God is merciful and is willing to forgive us of every sin imaginable. Take, for example, St. Maria Goretti and her attacker. She was a young woman who this man attempted to rape, and he stabbed her repeatedly. She would die forgiving him, and this man would repent of his sin and receive our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament with St. Maria Gorretti’s mother, who also forgave him. I am convinced that this man is not going to Hell. Repentance and faith are the key responses to sin.
 
  1. Why is the Catholic church telling me who I can marry (religion-wise)? Why would a God that loves me send me to hell for not obeying the rules such as those just stated previously?
Though you are allowed to marry others who are not of the Catholic Faith, the Catholic Church is not just one denomination, not just one religion, out of many. It is the Body of Christ, and Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. As Catholics, we are called to teach and explain the Catholic faith to others, including our children. This is much easier if you marry someone who shares the faith. I think the problem is that you see “rules=bad”. But this isn’t how the real world works, nor how the Bible works. We see that Jesus says “If you love me, you will keep my commandments”. And we know that the Church has authority (Matthew 18:18). These rules are not meant for evil, but for good. If we trust that God has placed a Church on earth to lead us to Jesus Christ, then we must trust Christ and his Church completely. And this means following some rules. If we know that society works much better with rules (laws), and if we know that relationships work much better with rules (like no adultery, and so on) then we can be sure that this is true with God too.
  1. Why am I part of a denomination that bans women from being equal to men?
The Catholic Church firmly teaches that all women are equal to men (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 1938) and the Bible teaches this too (Galatians 3:28). However, this does not mean that everyone has the same role to play in the Body of Christ. We know that everyone has a different vocation, a calling. When it comes to men and women, both men and women are called to submit to one another out of love (Ephesians 5:21). Though these verses are specifically regarding marriage, I believe they are also applicable to Holy Orders, or the priesthood. Women and men are called to different roles in the Church, and the sacrament of Holy Orders is where only men are called. This does not make women unequal to men, anymore than women only being able to bear new life in an amazing way means that men are unequal. Oh, and btw, the Catholic Church venerates the Mother of Christ above every other person except God, so I can assure you that women are not unequal to men. There’s a better argument for the reverse (though that is also false).
  1. Why doesn’t God love everyone? He sure does not love non-believers as it seems like they are going to hell too.
God does love everyone (John 3:16, 1 John 2:2). However, hell is not for people who God hates. Hell is the place for people who reject God, who want nothing to do with him, in the same way that the street or prison is the same place where people who reject their parents or their families go to. (Now, this isn’t me saying that all people who are homeless or in prison have rejected their families, but there are those who end up there because of that reason). The fact that God loves us does not mean that we are incapable of sin, nor does it mean that we are unable to choose God. This goes back to my first question. Once you understand the truth about sin, then you can understand the truth about Hell, which does exist. Thus, God does love everyone, but not everyone loves God, even though they might say they do.

Though many of your questions were loaded and were not respectful of what Catholics actually believe, these are the answers to your questions. I ask that you please take the time to look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Bible, Michael Coren’s “Why Catholics are Right”, as well as Fr. Leo Trese’s book “The Faith Explained”. All of these resources can help deepen your understanding of these responses. I will be praying for you that you may understand what the Church teaches and may find your faith.
 
At the risk of repeating other responses, let me run through the questions.
  1. People actually choose hell for themselves. God created the universe and set its laws, and true to Himself, God can’t bring someone who is depraved to Himself, not until they repent.
  2. Going off what I vaguely understand about the situation, American bishops covered up the scandals, much to the disappointment of the pope.
  3. I don’t know the spiritual state of your mother or if she’s Catholic. She might have a change of heart eventually, repent, and very well go to heaven.
  4. I think you can marry someone outside the faith provided your spouse agrees to raise Catholic children.
  5. Women are equal to men in dignity but not in role. The Church acknowledges this. If you’re referring to the all male clergy, this is because the Church doesn’t have the power or the authority to ordain women to the priesthood - Christ ordained the apostles, all males, to the priesthood. Altar servers are ideally boys to give them a chance to work with the priest and discover a potential vocation.
  6. God loves everyone. People go hell for their own decisions, either through sin or through sin and explicitly rejecting God. God always reaches out to lost souls, but it is ultimately up to man to accept God, His graces, and His commandments.
 
Catholics don’t condemn gays we condemn gay marriage and gay sex because it says to be against it in leviticus if i remember correctly. However we are fine with Gay couples in fact i know someone who is gay and religiously Catholic. In the church women aren’t un equal to men they can’t be priests because Jesus did not ordain women. St. Mary magalen was a holy women and a friend to our lord but was not ordained a priestess. If a women wanted religious life they may enter the convent and become nuns. In fact if you ask me a nun has a extremely high duty in the church and the world they try their very hardest to save the world through prayer. Also us Catholics don’t condemn Children out of wedlock i have never heard a case like that in all my days. Our belief is that God loves everybody wedlock or no wedlock they are still a beatiful work of Gods art. In fact i have a few friends who were born out of wedlock and there is no doubt in my mind that they will make it to heaven i know that they will be there.And the children being molested your right is a outrage and i feel the reason they church tends not to bring it up is because of shame that a man of God ould stoop to tat level. I think that the priests and people of this earth that touch children in innappropriate ways out to have a lot of guilt on their mind. Trust me my friend be proud of your Catholic faith we believe in the christian God in fact many don’t know but we are the base of all christianity. if you choose to leave the church and become a different christian denomination know that what ever one you are that christ is always with you.
 
It’s funny to me when someone thinks that the Church as so many rules! I came into the Church as an adult, and this is how I saw it.

When I was 16 and learning how to drive, there was lots to learn! There was the reading part and a test, plus the hands on driving part, with a test. So many rules! All that was in my mind was the freedom of driving! It was easy to see that if everyone followed the rules of the road, so many people could all share the same road and continue on their business of life. It is foolishness to think that some of the rules are too ‘restricting’, too inconvenient. No driver would say that they personally ‘don’t care for them’ because if someone broke a rule, the consequence was pretty immediate. They could get seriously hurt, or seriously hurt or kill others.

The rules in the Church don’t always have such immediate consequences and thus easy to understand. Your mother was not married when she had a baby. Let’s talk about that. When you look at what is currently happening in the States, birth control has been widely available to the masses for decades. What happened was an explosion of teen pregnancy! The leading reason of poverty is found in single mothers, abandoned by boyfriends who said I love you and disappeared. Is this good for babies or their mothers? There’s been millions of abortions! Millions. Sex outside of marriage has not been good for these babies. Sex outside of marriage has brought all kinds of sexually transmitted diseases, AIDS being a frightful one. How are these things good for the nation? For families? For the economy? What seems like a private moment between 2 consenting people is carried on the shoulders of everyone. If those aborted babies were within a framework of a married couple, they would have grown, been loved and loved, had families of their own, and contributed to society. There may have been progress in fighting cancer and other diseases but we don’t know what resources were aborted. What gifts to the world that never saw day light.

The rules that God has laid out are to protect us and to bring us blessing, right now, and for generations. When we chose to break the rules, people get hurt, often the most vulnerable. That’s the kind of loving Father we have. He does not abandon his children but gives them guidelines, rules to get to where we are going, and he hands us the keys. How amazing is that?

As for hell, all God has to do is hold up a very bright mirror for us to look into. Some will call out to the mountains to come and cover them rather than to look at the results their decisions have brought to themselves, to the people around them, and to the generations that will follow.

They cried out to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us! Hide us from the face of the One who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!” Rev 6:16

How great is the mercy of God, ready to forgive, to heal, to welcome. We make that choice and it’s a smart choice to make it today.
 
do any of us really believe this is a legitimate post?
I’ve been following it to see if he posts back, but considering he hasn’t posted elsewhere, I think he’s a drive-by-poster. He just happened to stumble upon the site, posted his views, and left, never to return again. But, you never really know for sure with some people. You can usually tell by their writing style and word usage, but this is one of those that is hard to decipher. But the longer he does without posting the more likely it is that he just came to speak his mind, maybe rustle a few feathers, and then be on his merry way. So, unless he posts again, even starting a new thread, I’ll just let it go as a drive-by-post.
 
do any of us really believe this is a legitimate post?
It may or may not be.

However, I think that most of us as Catholics have been approached by friends or family members with at least some of those misunderstandings/questions. So if even one person who has heard something like that reads along and sees that what they thought the Church ‘said’ isn’t what the Church said, then the seed gets planted that maybe some of the other things they were told were wrong about the Church might not be wrong either. How often we hear from people that they had been ‘against the Church’ for years, even decades, believing lies about her, but upon hearing the truth, sometimes at once and sometimes years later, they realized their error and came to the Faith. We have to trust that somewhere somebody truly DOES have these or other questions and that by our giving the answers, we may help provide some ground for the Holy Spirit to work within those who question.

Knowledge is never wasted, and speaking the Truth (even if one has to do so over and over and over again without ever seeming to get any other response but more lies, more ignorance, more hate etc.), . .is what we are called to do. . .
 
do any of us really believe this is a legitimate post?
Sure it’s a legitimate post. Why should I judge it to be anything else? Writing style? manner of expression? Questions asked? Follow-up by the OP?
Each of these things can have some legitimate reasoning…such as perhaps English not being their first language, level of education, cultural differences… Even the possibility of a “learning disability” that causes them difficulty in writing…

So it is incumbent upon us to answer honestly and without judging, which many have. If the OP returns and asks additional questions…good…If they got their answer…great…

So I always assume sincerity on the part or posters…

BUT IF - the the poster was insincere…trying to “stir a pot” as it were…our serious, gracious, informative and charitable answers will only frustrate that effort.
And maybe - - - just maybe - - - who knows - - - through charitable interaction their heart might be softened…and one day they become Catholic. 👍

Peace
James
 
Well, I’ll respond to the questions with a question:

Why do people reject God, and the concept that He loved us enough to send His Son to teach us and establish a Church to guide us to Him?
 
It’s funny to me when someone thinks that the Church as so many rules! I came into the Church as an adult, and this is how I saw it.

When I was 16 and learning how to drive, there was lots to learn! There was the reading part and a test, plus the hands on driving part, with a test. So many rules! All that was in my mind was the freedom of driving! It was easy to see that if everyone followed the rules of the road, so many people could all share the same road and continue on their business of life. It is foolishness to think that some of the rules are too ‘restricting’, too inconvenient. No driver would say that they personally ‘don’t care for them’ because if someone broke a rule, the consequence was pretty immediate. They could get seriously hurt, or seriously hurt or kill others.

The rules in the Church don’t always have such immediate consequences and thus easy to understand. Your mother was not married when she had a baby. Let’s talk about that. When you look at what is currently happening in the States, birth control has been widely available to the masses for decades. What happened was an explosion of teen pregnancy! The leading reason of poverty is found in single mothers, abandoned by boyfriends who said I love you and disappeared. Is this good for babies or their mothers? There’s been millions of abortions! Millions. Sex outside of marriage has not been good for these babies. Sex outside of marriage has brought all kinds of sexually transmitted diseases, AIDS being a frightful one. How are these things good for the nation? For families? For the economy? What seems like a private moment between 2 consenting people is carried on the shoulders of everyone. If those aborted babies were within a framework of a married couple, they would have grown, been loved and loved, had families of their own, and contributed to society. There may have been progress in fighting cancer and other diseases but we don’t know what resources were aborted. What gifts to the world that never saw day light.

The rules that God has laid out are to protect us and to bring us blessing, right now, and for generations. When we chose to break the rules, people get hurt, often the most vulnerable. That’s the kind of loving Father we have. He does not abandon his children but gives them guidelines, rules to get to where we are going, and he hands us the keys. How amazing is that?

As for hell, all God has to do is hold up a very bright mirror for us to look into. Some will call out to the mountains to come and cover them rather than to look at the results their decisions have brought to themselves, to the people around them, and to the generations that will follow.

They cried out to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us! Hide us from the face of the One who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!” Rev 6:16

How great is the mercy of God, ready to forgive, to heal, to welcome. We make that choice and it’s a smart choice to make it today.
Excellent response! 👍:clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
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