The tens of thousands of denominations is a myth , and the Old Testament was already completed , as for the New Testament, were they written by the apostles or friends of them yes , do they teach truth yes , were they already accepted as a functioning canon yes , we’re they inspired by God before a council yes , sure tradition confirmed the canon , but it is subject to scripture .
No Starwars -
Your first question cannot be serious. Your second question is unintelligible. Your third question is quite puzzling coming from a person of the Catholic faith. Was Christ revelatory work not sufficient because whichever Pope wrote “Ineffabilis Deus”?
Do you think that we can we know that any past revelation is from God? If you think this is a problem for me and not you as well you are sadly mistaken.
Starwars, this thought itself, is not subject to scripture (not supported by scripture)
Does anyone on this site understand and/or employ any intellectual charity. It seems like I am the only person who grasps what this is and uses it often here.
And you still have to demonstrate this.
You asked a question that I could have replied with both Yes and No to again. Not all of my doctrines come from scripture, but some or most of them do. This is of course dependent on how we are defining doctrine. I did look but I could not find a def on newadvent so I am not exactly sure what you mean by doctrine
Not me! I am a simple man that needs simple explanations. PRmerger used a term earlier “connect the dots”. I am still waiting to see where your next dot is especially in your post 343. If intellect is needed to see it, well I’m not sure of anything then.
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Maybe so. I don’t like to claim how many there are. Do you know? It definitely is a lot and not a simple task trying to find the answer to.
What is your source for this? I think the Old Covenant relied on Oral Tradition quite a bit.
And how do we know this?
and how do we know this?
When did all Christians know the NT canon, in its entirety?
We definitely agree about this!
Tradition? Or the authority of Jesus which He invested in the Church? The Church relied on Tradition to determine what Scripture was, but then used her authority to canonized Scripture and eventually close it.
Tradition is not subject to Scripture. It is the same source. Our customs and doctrines are subject to both Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture. The Church, when officially Teaching the faithful in faith and morals (such as declaring the Canon of Scripture) is protected by the Lord and His keys given to the Church by Himself.
Can you give some examples of doctrines you believe that don’t come from Scripture?
So how many denominations are there actually? And can you please cite your source?
What apostle or friend of the apostle wrote Hebrews?
Very Catholic, this.
Annnnd this is an example of your belief in Sacred Tradition.
Again, I am asking (for the 4th or 5th time), what Scripture verse confirms the 27 book canon of the NT?
Believer Baptism, Covenant Theology, Contraception is not evil(this may not be a “doctrine” depending on the what you mean by doctrine), Postmillennialism, Annihilationism. Just to name a few off the top of my head.These are not really anything that I agree with fully in every version of said theory, but in general they are a good description or starting point of doctrines I hold.
I am deadly serious. Could you please answer?
The question comes from the logical conclusion of YOUR point of view, Protestor. Please try to think in the abstract. It’s like this, “If you believe A, then doesn’t that mean that B is true?”
This is unintelligible.
Thank you for answering the question.
What “other doctrines” are you referring to?
By the end of the Apostolic age, early second century roughly, the church basically accepted the four Gospels and the thirteen letters of Paul (not including Hebrews), that’s it. They were not formally defined as canon, but the inspiration of them was pretty much accepted by most groups. There were at the same time many other gospels and letters floating around by various authors, some were attributed to a few of the Apostles themselves among other authors. Some of these other works ended up in the canon, but many more did not because it was decided that they were not inspired and conflicted with Scripture that was already considered inspired.
No I do not think that public revelation is still ongoing from the time of the OT. I do believe that public revelation is possible. No I do not think it is currently happening. You may be slightly confused because earlier I have stated “revelation is necessarily first person and cannot be revelation for others without divine authority or further revelation”. You may have taken that to mean that I deny that God could use public revelation, but this is not what i am saying.
When you say “there is” do you mean “is there”. If so, then my answer is possibly. There could be revelations that man missed or that wasn’t necessary at that time or that he didn’t want to give to us for whatever reason. Sufficient for what, I seriously don’t know to what you are referring to, and by “His” do you mean Christ or God. You could be asking sufficient for salvation or revelation or something else I don’t know.
This is exactly what I am talking about when I say that you have no idea what B should look like. Your Bs have followed logically from prima facia elements of my As, but they were not composed by a person who understands my propositions. Which quite frankly are not that hard to grasp. For example your “if you have this ability do others also possess it” question. The only way for me to know whether or not someone or multiple people have this “ability” is for me to have a separate ability to access their ability or if we made contradicting claims. Another example is when you asked me wether one or another book was theopneustos.
What does you first question have to do with what we are talking about? Your second question does not seem to be at all related to our original subject.
