The Childish Left

[Wedge_Antilles]

I was new to this section, and I apologized.

No worries, didn’t bother me. In reading, I felt the requirement for a news articles a bit constrained for actual debate, but I get why it was required.

 

[Hope_Philomena]

America was founded with Freedom OF religion; NOT freedom FROM religion.

The Fifth Commandment is “Thou Shalt not kill.” That friend is God’s Law, which supersedes any human contravention of it. Freedom OF Religion, never was Freedom FROM religion.

I’m not going to address the rest of your rant.

But I have heard phrases similar to your quote above and I find them absolutely illogical and puerile.

For religious freedom to exist, it naturally includes the freedom to reject all religion. Otherwise, it isn’t freedom.

I’m sure you are aware that God gifted us with free will? Some choose to reject God and any other religion, and if you wish to prevent them from this then you are denying them free will defined both religiously and constitutionally.

Jefferson made a bill for religious freedom, and it passed. Some tried to argue for only religious freedom for Christians, but that insertion was rejected and the bill’s protection applied to every religion, or lack thereof. Jefferson is quoted as saying joyfully:

“The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination.”

Infidel, in case you are unaware, means literally “unfaithful.” The infidels have the freedom to reject religion.

And you yourself seek out freedom from religion! Would you find it right if everyone in school was required to listen to the Muslim Call to Prayer over the speakers a few times a day?

 

[gracepoole]

I’m pretty sure the “news link” requirement no longer exists. Although it would be nice if the mods could make an official announcement that it doesn’t. Perhaps it is merely not being enforced because the mods are prioritizing keeping the posts charitable, and I certainly do understand that. I myself have had to bite my fingers to resist the urge to lambaste certain posters.

I also wish an official announcement would be made. Right now it seems anything goes – haven’t seen anyone suspended or banned in a long time (not that I’m complaining). Something seems to be brewing and I’m afraid of what it might be…

 

[2_RollinStoned]

Nothing like name-calling in the title of the thread.
Disappointed in you PJM. I’ve read your stuff on NCRs. I thought you were above this kind of thing.
I guess not.

Dang Patrick.
I’ve lost some respect for you.

There is none. It’s just an angry conservative rant about all the "should"s other people “should” be doing.

Yep and ill informed to say the least.

I’m not anything…left or right but I am concerned that this last election (loudly proclaimed rigged by the man in office now) was influenced by covert actions of a foreign power that he has financial ties to. That this same person based his campaign upon far right “America First” rhetoric and seemed to enjoy mocking a disabled reporter (and his team of liars has since sought to spin that.) and now he displays a disregard for the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law that he less than 2 weeks ago swore to uphold and defend.

I find it more sad than PJM does that so few noticed the similarities of manner and polemics to previous tyrants who plunged the world into war and gave him a pass on things that they would have (and did) criticize about his opponents, not to mention his public remarks about women “with blood coming out of her…”) and his repeated inciting of violence from his supporters while hypocritically denouncing any of it from people who publicly despise him for all of the above reasons.

This nation is now in grave danger of a reign of tyranny the likes of which it has not seen since its founding and very few see it or are willing to speak out. The divisive nature of this president’s so-called “campaign” is a disgrace to the nation and served only to serve his own ends.

Just as other tyrants have historically done he has now surrounded himself with family and cronies who served him in that disgraceful election. He has again and again lied or misspoken and yet never recanted or even acknowledged it.

Supposedly this man “saw thousands and thousands of Muslims in New Jersey on TV celebrating on 9/11” which verifiably never happened, so again we see that we have a man in office who has a disconnect from reality and truth not to mention a self serving narcissistic attitude towards women whom he is on tape speaking of them as sex objects to be treated as nothing more than objects of gratification for him.

Nothing excuses these things and we would do well to remember the following voices from the past.

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” This was first written by Benjamin Franklin for the Pennsylvania Assembly in its Reply to the Governor (11 Nov. 1755)

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” ~ George Santayana, philosopher and novelist

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln

 

[Saints_Alive]

The Childish Left

To me, a Roman Catholic Right winger, the actions and hypocrisy of the Left would be amusing, were it not so damaging to themselves, to the Country they CHOOSE to call “home,” and to the Freedoms we cherish.

I have great respect for the freedoms this county grants us, while at the same time am embarrassed by the levels of hypocrisy evidenced by the Left, and modeled for the world to see by the National Democratic Party, who in my opinion betray their pledged -allegiance to America by their childish pranks, such as avoiding there Elected duty, to vote for or against the New Presidents candidates.

I’m 72 years old, and don’t ever recall the Republican Party acting is such a manner. But admit, that I could be wrong on this point?

Because the Left are not now getting “their way” and advancing a further subversion of morality; in an attempt to make America into an amoral country, to reflect their personal beliefs, which is a sadly accurate reflection of today’s Democratic Party, where childish actions seem to be their only response.

Boycotting the Inauguration events, boycotting their elected DUTY to vote; constant complaining, revolts, accusations that border on the insane; such as claiming that “their religious rights” are being taken from them. I actually read this from one of them. That same person claimed to be “embarrassed” by the moral absolutes of the Right. “Who do they think they are?” Implying our Left-wing rights are valid, while yours are not; with no regard, no respect, and I expect very little knowledge of our actual American History.
America was founded with Freedom OF religion; NOT freedom FROM religion. The Left smiles that they were able to impose immorality, same sex “marriage”, Transgender bathrooms, and of course abortion “rights.” The Left act like juvenile-delinquents now that they have lost control of our Government’s highest Offices. Grow up already!

The Fifth Commandment is “Thou Shalt not kill.” That friend is God’s Law, which supersedes any human contravention of it. Freedom OF Religion, never was Freedom FROM religion.

The Lunacy, the frenzy, the hysteria of the Secular Press is incomprehensible, and fuels the flames of grossly-irrational behaviors to come. The lack of common sense, logic, and charity are profound. What happened to “IN GOD WE TRUST?”

The Left lost, because they LOST touch with America, and American values; values that had made this nation truly great; with what our Founders foresaw, Constituted and that many died for.

Few things better amplify my sediments than the “public” [meaning the Left’s] outcry on President Trumps immigration ban. All he is trying to do is PROCTECT the Country he has sworn to protect; and yet rather than offering suggestions on how to make it more effective, perhaps even more fair; they expend all of their energies in vial idiocrasy, that serves not a single good or valid purpose, except to make themselves feel good. It is truly sad that the Left is some small manner reflects what once Great America has been turned into.

Today’s National Democratic Party, a Party I proudly belonged to for a great many years is now reflecting priorities, values, and practices that are abhorrent, gravely immoral, largely amoral, and so ineffective that they reduce themselves to childish actions and responses. That is truly embarrassing. WAKE UP AMERICA!

God Bless America, the land that We Love!

Patrick J. Miron
01/31/2017

Well stated.

 

[Son_of_Niall]

Yep and ill informed to say the least.

I’m not anything…left or right but I am concerned that this last election (loudly proclaimed rigged by the man in office now) was influenced by covert actions of a foreign power that he has financial ties to. That this same person based his campaign upon far right “America First” rhetoric and seemed to enjoy mocking a disabled reporter (and his team of liars has since sought to spin that.) and now he displays a disregard for the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law that he less than 2 weeks ago swore to uphold and defend.

I find it more sad than PJM does that so few noticed the similarities of manner and polemics to previous tyrants who plunged the world into war and gave him a pass on things that they would have (and did) criticize about his opponents, not to mention his public remarks about women “with blood coming out of her…”) and his repeated inciting of violence from his supporters while hypocritically denouncing any of it from people who publicly despise him for all of the above reasons.

This nation is now in grave danger of a reign of tyranny the likes of which it has not seen since its founding and very few see it or are willing to speak out. The divisive nature of this president’s so-called “campaign” is a disgrace to the nation and served only to serve his own ends.

Just as other tyrants have historically done he has now surrounded himself with family and cronies who served him in that disgraceful election. He has again and again lied or misspoken and yet never recanted or even acknowledged it.

Supposedly this man “saw thousands and thousands of Muslims in New Jersey on TV celebrating on 9/11” which verifiably never happened, so again we see that we have a man in office who has a disconnect from reality and truth not to mention a self serving narcissistic attitude towards women whom he is on tape speaking of them as sex objects to be treated as nothing more than objects of gratification for him.

Nothing excuses these things and we would do well to remember the following voices from the past.

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” This was first written by Benjamin Franklin for the Pennsylvania Assembly in its Reply to the Governor (11 Nov. 1755)

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” ~ George Santayana, philosopher and novelist

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln

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